Sports Photography As Art | Tonee Lawrence | Bankedoutt Radio Show

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Alright y 'all, it's time for another episode

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of Bankedoutt Radio Show. I am your host, Andreas,

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and we are here to have another interview being

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brought to you in Zoom. We have Miss Tonee Lawrence,

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who is the founder, owner of Own It Sports here,

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based in Paulding County. So if you're in the

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Paulding County area at work specifically, you

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can definitely look up her work. But Toni, thank

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you for coming on to the platform. Thanks for

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having me. Want to get into it when I just love

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having conversations, especially when it borders

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like, you know creativity You know your photographer

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my trade and you have your own business One gives

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a little background like, you know, what got

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you into the love photography and why did you

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want to pursue it as a business? Well, I started

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photography a long time ago I've been shooting

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since 2000 About 2003 probably 2003 2004 somewhere

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in there and it's because I had kids so I As

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a young family we were pretty strapped like a

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lot of young families and I couldn't afford you

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know nice pictures of my kids and then the ones

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that I would get at Walmart or daisy pennies

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or where you know all the big box stores um even

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the picture people i just didn't like them i

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i didn't think they were i was paying like great

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quality or you know paying for the i was i was

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not i was just not happy with them you know i

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didn't like the quality of them i didn't like

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how they um showed my kids i felt like i was

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rushed you know it was just like bad experiences

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all over newborn pictures or like crumpled you

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know crumpled kids barely stand on something

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you know so and uh um yeah the the more kids

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I had the more irritated I got about that and

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realized that um you know maybe maybe I needed

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to just do it myself so that's what I did my

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husband um I had a film camera from my dad an

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old Minolta that I was quite um good at and I

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still have it actually I'll use it whenever I

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get a film bug. But my husband bought me my first

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digital camera, which was a Canon Rebel XT. And

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I still have it too. I have all my bodies. And

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yeah, I just started taking pictures. Eventually

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got good enough to charge some money, a little

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bit of money to do. what I loved and then it

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eventually just grew and grew and grew and and

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you know the I think the busier and the older

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you get you kind of learn what you what genre

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you want to be in or you know what meets you

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want to practice and so that ended up I've done

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everything I've done weddings with our kids families

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events corporate stuff headshots you name it

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I've done it real estate um and so I just kind

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of like maybe because my I was growing with my

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kids but um I uh got really heavy into the sport

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and uh sports photography and not so much like

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the action part of it but more of the um um volume

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side of of sports. So that's what I do now. That's

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all I do. It's just... So you mean like the volume

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pitches that take for their profiles and just

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like taking them like the whole team and stuff?

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one zero If you want your business out there

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thriving hit us up if you don't want your business

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just to survive But you want to thrive? Hit us

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how to compete. And when you understand that,

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now you can tap in with me and I can help you

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compete. Right. Yep. So volume photography can

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be defined as basically you're processing a volume

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of pictures. Instead of working with one client

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at a time, which I do also do that through, I

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do senior pictures as well for high schoolers.

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My main clientele is the high school athletes.

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So instead of working with just one person, I

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am processing a team which can be, a football

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team is a generous amount of kids. And processing

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those all at once, either through script or automation

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or however it is that people want to do that.

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But yeah, and then my average gallery on, we'll

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just go with a county track team, one of the

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county schools, there's usually about 40 kids.

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My gallery of those 40 kids will sometimes be

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upwards of 1200 images up to 2000 images of kids.

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All placed on templates are all done with in

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-camera effects like using a fog machine or smoke

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or something like that. Processing that on your

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end. From a business standpoint, like how many

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hours is that? As far as like worth of work you

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said going through 1200 to 2000 pictures. I want

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just a lot Yeah, it is. Um, so I automate probably

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80 percent of my business and editing um, so

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the I actually don't mind um the editing side

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of things and a lot of people take that part

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and and it I really don't mind it I I do spend

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a lot of time behind the computer, probably more

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than I should. Definitely more than I should

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if you're speaking to my husband. You got to

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keep that work -life balance. He's ready to retire

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and I'm like, where's it started? So I do automate

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about probably 80 % of it. I'm a very data -driven

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Type A personality person anyway, so I'm a big

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lister and use a lot of different spreadsheets

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and stuff to keywords and metadata to sort images.

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But I would say up front, the manual work is

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obviously taking the pictures. culling them,

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so going through them and deleting out the bad

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ones, closed eyes, weird faces, hand gestures,

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you name it. And then I started an automation

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process where I am batch editing hundreds of

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pictures at one time and then I've just developed

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over many, many years of doing this script in

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Photoshop that I've made or add -ins or plugins

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that I've invested in to make life a little bit

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easier. But a lot of it is, you know, I usually

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will, if I shoot a team, I will usually give

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them about a week and a half to two weeks to

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have all of their images processed. So, and I

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would say that that's pretty, that's pretty standard

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for like a, you know, one person client or a

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family, you know, a week turn around, week and

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a half turn around. So, I'm processing 40 individual

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clients in the same amount of time that other

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companies and other photographers are doing their

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one client. So getting started in like landing

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those types of clients how are you able to like

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you know go into the school system and land the

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pictures for the teams? So I primarily work only

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in Paulding County with the Paulding County School

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District. So I owe most of my business to the

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track coach at North Paulding. Her name is Melissa

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McCorvey. She's amazing. And in 2020, when COVID

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was happening, um everybody you know shut down

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nobody was working nobody could work but we still

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had kids playing sports and um to try to bring

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some normalcy to these kids uh melissa reached

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out to me and she's like hey i have you know

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12 seniors or something like that is do you have

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any way to make banners for these kids um and

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as far as i know i'm the only Paulding County

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photographer and maybe even Cobb, I don't know,

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that was able to accommodate that six foot space,

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you know, safe space for kids. We had kids, I

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have a double deck in the back of my house and

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so I was able to put the kids in one corner and

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they would come up the deck and I would be in

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the back corner of our deck and just shoot kind

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of diagonally across so it gave us about about

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15 feet of distance probably, you know, really

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safe and so kids would come up one side of the

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deck and they would go down the other side of

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the deck and out the yard and we were outside

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and safe. So after we did the track team, Melissa

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was referring me to the other coaches and teams

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in North Calding and then parents would refer

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me out to, you know, their friends and stuff.

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And so I really only work on a referral basis

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by word of mouth for the most part. So I've been

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pretty blessed. I have about 13 to 15 teams at

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North Pauling alone that I shoot. And then I

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do the basketball teams and volleyball at Hyreb.

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and soccer, sometimes lacrosse, and we're working

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on flag football at Eat Poly. Okay. How is it

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from a business perspective, because I imagine,

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you know, that process, you know, you invoice

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them, you know, they pay, are they doing like,

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you know, net 60 or net 90 or something like

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that, or what is it like if someone wants to

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let you go that route as a photographer? So I

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run my business a little bit differently than

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most volume photographers where my client instead

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of like the parent being my client, the booster

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clubs are my clients. So I handle their needs

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first and I support them through their entire

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season through like all of their media if they

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need any digital images throughout the season,

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the school year and stuff like that, yearbook

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pictures. I provide all of that to my team. So

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I focus on banners first and that's basically

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my bread and butter or senior banner. So once

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you see hanging in gems and stadiums and on fences

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and stuff, they are my primary client. And then

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after I get the banners done, I focus on the

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parents' needs. So it's really kind of like a

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good little back -scratching arrangement, I guess,

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between myself and the team. I focused on them

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initially, but they are also bringing an entire

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team to me because they want an entire a complete

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team picture for the yearbook or you know there

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Whatever their needs are for having a team picture

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So I am blessed and to see a lot of kids get

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in front of my lens And then I'll deliver the

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pictures to the parents after we wrap things

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up with my primary client, which is the school

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This is some of the Lessons you've learned along

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the way just like in running your business and

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doing this particular type of service The number

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one thing is you cannot make everybody happy

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And the other thing is that words People just

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in general don't really read a lot anymore They

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everybody is very very busy and so they just

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jump right in without reading stuff so the less

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words that you can provide to somebody explaining

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something the better but then on the other side

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you get people who are like this doesn't make

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sense there's not enough explanation you know

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and so it's it's kind of a toss -up you either

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have a long form explaining every little thing

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or you're missing information then people are

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upset later you know so um that is that is definitely

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one of the business aspects that i've learned

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is that you know people don't read um and that's

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okay i don't mind uh people sometimes i'm just

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like i wish you would have just pause for a second

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and read the big red text, you know, but that's

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okay. And then I guess another thing is like

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having patience with, you know, we're working

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with kids and you got to be patient with them.

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Kids come in all different personalities and

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some are very shy and some of them are very open

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and You know, you just have to have patience

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and learn how to read people and make them feel

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comfortable as much as you can. And, you know,

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if you get those genuine smiles and, and, you

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know, make, you know, get some good pictures

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for parents, keep them happy too. So watch their

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kids grow. Yeah. Has any of your work been featured

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in like how they publicize like magazines or

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sports? platforms or anything like that to where

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they use your work story Not my sports photography,

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but I haven't really like pursued that either

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Since I've had onus sports I am a max prep photographer,

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which I think is you know, that's pretty cool

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There's there as far as I know there's only myself

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and Crystal Moore In the state of Georgia female

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sports photographers that are listed in map Max

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Prep, which is quite a rigorous group to join.

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You have to have certain equipment and, you know,

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they look for certain things in your images,

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no grain, good quality. And a lot of that is

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working in really low light. I don't know how

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many evening games you've been to at the football

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field. Some real challenging lighting situations

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and I'll show you my My lens that I had to well,

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I can't even pick it up with one hand because

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it's so heavy Yeah, actually I saw a picture

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that doesn't actually my next question. I was

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gonna ask like, you know, what's the most expensive

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lens? You had to buy because they get up there,

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especially when you're shooting the type of material

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you do. Yes. So that is definitely my most expensive

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lens. And it actually is that is the OG 400 millimeter

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Canon EF 2 .8 lens. And it is about 17 years

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old now, somewhere in there. And I paid more

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for it than I did. And it's very used. That lens

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is still going for about $2 ,2 ,300 on eBay.

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I happened to get it on eBay. With a damaged

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hood, I was able to fix the hood, so that's good

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because a new hood is $700. and you know for

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it is heavy by the time I get my my camera body

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on it on the lens it's about a 15 pound setup

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so that lens I think even with using it on a

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monopod has probably significantly contributed

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to me having to give up action sports and And

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some other things where my hand joint has just

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gotten so bad in my thumb that I can't I can't

00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:05.579
shoot anymore with that lens. It's just too heavy.

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So I haven't decided if I want to sell it yet

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or not because it was such a It was such a feat

00:19:12.940 --> 00:19:18.220
to buy No, I'd definitely get that so before

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Like you've been doing this for a while now Where

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do you see yourself going in the future? Are

00:19:23.970 --> 00:19:26.809
you trying to grow even bigger or you found where

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you at right now as far as like no revenue stream?

00:19:31.089 --> 00:19:36.769
Still there. I lost you. Can you hear me? So

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I am actually pretty comfortable with where I'm

00:19:47.190 --> 00:19:52.650
at business life. Don't want I say I don't like

00:19:52.650 --> 00:19:55.490
to travel at all I don't want to go outside of

00:19:55.490 --> 00:19:59.349
my county haul up all my gear See all of my all

00:19:59.349 --> 00:20:02.630
my gear is mounted to the wall in my studio.

00:20:02.890 --> 00:20:08.130
Yeah, and even my camera mounted and I Don't

00:20:08.130 --> 00:20:11.369
want to take all my stuff off and pack it up

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and go to a school for a couple hours and drive

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back home and put it back up and blah blah blah

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So I have this studio and I've kind of started

00:20:20.470 --> 00:20:24.869
requiring my seniors to come to my studio to

00:20:24.869 --> 00:20:28.750
shoot their banners. That's because I get the

00:20:28.750 --> 00:20:31.710
best results and the best lighting in a controlled

00:20:31.710 --> 00:20:35.349
atmosphere that I'm familiar with. Not that I

00:20:35.349 --> 00:20:39.069
can't shoot those on location. It's just that

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I prefer the way that my images look and the

00:20:46.819 --> 00:20:50.259
situation that I have arranged my lights. I know

00:20:50.259 --> 00:20:53.859
exactly where I can put my kids on my shooting

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platform in order to make everything come out

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the way that I want it. And I truly believe that

00:21:02.819 --> 00:21:08.480
consistency has probably added towards the little

00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.680
bit of success that I've had here in Palding

00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:15.460
County as a sports photographer because Coaches

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can see my work and they can talk to other coaches

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and they know what they're going to get. They're

00:21:21.019 --> 00:21:24.000
going to get a quality product that lasts through

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the entire season, even in the blazing hot sun

00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:32.140
that Georgia delivers. And their seniors are

00:21:32.140 --> 00:21:34.039
going to be able to have a senior gift at the

00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:37.200
end of their year to hang on their wall or for

00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.000
their parents to put in their garage or wherever

00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:46.079
they put those athletic memorabilia. So, I am

00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:48.339
pretty comfortable with where I'm at. I don't

00:21:48.339 --> 00:21:53.339
mind taking on new teams, of course. I'll always

00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:57.160
pick a new team. It just has to be, you know,

00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:00.960
upfront. This is how I shoot. I like people to

00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.640
come to my studio. And if you are wanting the

00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.779
results that you are seeing on my website and

00:22:06.779 --> 00:22:10.920
with other teams, then that is basically an expectation

00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:15.970
that will happen next. I was thinking, so if

00:22:15.970 --> 00:22:17.869
one of these teams ends up winning, like let's

00:22:17.869 --> 00:22:20.109
say they win a championship and you're the one

00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:22.950
who captures the team image and then they go

00:22:22.950 --> 00:22:26.349
on to do like a documentary type style, do you

00:22:26.349 --> 00:22:28.730
think you would release your work to be able

00:22:28.730 --> 00:22:33.789
to be included in that documentary? Yeah, I absolutely

00:22:33.789 --> 00:22:38.609
would. I've actually had an image released by

00:22:38.609 --> 00:22:44.839
Dodo in Spain, which is Spain's Pampers. So they

00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.900
they leased an image from me for three years

00:22:47.900 --> 00:22:52.240
for their Pampers campaign in a hospital. And

00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.740
so my image was on billboards and in magazines

00:22:56.740 --> 00:22:59.420
and print ads and stuff like that in Spain, of

00:22:59.420 --> 00:23:01.500
course. But it was a pretty cool experience.

00:23:01.500 --> 00:23:05.019
And I have no problems with releasing images

00:23:05.019 --> 00:23:08.559
like that. And in fact, our North Calving girls

00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:11.700
team last year took the camp state championship.

00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:15.869
So They use a lot of my images through, you know,

00:23:17.349 --> 00:23:20.529
their team promotions and stuff like that throughout

00:23:20.529 --> 00:23:23.730
the county and with the team themselves, so.

00:23:24.670 --> 00:23:26.750
I like that, you know, I've met some people who's

00:23:26.750 --> 00:23:28.690
like, I don't want my step fees and yada yada

00:23:28.690 --> 00:23:30.630
yada or whatever and they get so like they hold

00:23:30.630 --> 00:23:33.549
on to it for so tightly that I was like, why

00:23:33.549 --> 00:23:36.609
wouldn't you want to allow it to be released?

00:23:37.589 --> 00:23:40.890
What's the... Misconceptions or like, you know

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top two misconceptions that people have about

00:23:43.049 --> 00:23:45.630
sports photography that you've encountered over

00:23:45.630 --> 00:23:59.990
the years. Oh You just push a button What do

00:23:59.990 --> 00:24:01.690
you say to those people like we know when they

00:24:01.690 --> 00:24:03.710
have that type of mindset or you're just pushing

00:24:03.710 --> 00:24:05.549
the button Do you explain to them everything

00:24:05.549 --> 00:24:07.700
you have to do or? you're like you know what

00:24:07.700 --> 00:24:11.599
I'm not even gonna waste my time. So fortunately

00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.759
enough a lot of my parents come to the sessions

00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:20.220
with their kids and so they see it you know they

00:24:20.220 --> 00:24:23.099
come in and they're like wow you got a great

00:24:23.099 --> 00:24:26.200
setup you know and then my camera's mounted they're

00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:30.339
seeing it I shoot tethered so when you know when

00:24:30.339 --> 00:24:33.720
we take a picture it goes to the the monitor

00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.339
and they can see it. So they obviously know that,

00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.119
you know, they're seeing like lights and lights

00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:43.799
and stuff on the outside of it. They obviously

00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.500
know there's got to be some behind the scenes

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:53.039
magic for, you know, for it to go from an image

00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.500
straight out of the camera to a senior banner

00:24:56.500 --> 00:25:02.079
that has been highly customized. I've been pretty

00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:07.160
fortunate to have very understanding teams and

00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.839
players and parents and coaches and booster clubs.

00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:16.799
So the, I think another, like the only other

00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:23.640
thing that I run into sometimes is this generation

00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:28.339
in particular, they like very natural images.

00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:32.230
They don't want to see themselves overly edited.

00:25:33.250 --> 00:25:36.690
They want their skin to be very natural looking.

00:25:37.430 --> 00:25:42.789
And so when you are processing that many images,

00:25:43.029 --> 00:25:45.309
you know, hundreds and hundreds of images at

00:25:45.309 --> 00:25:49.029
one time, you have to be able to find that happy

00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:54.049
scenario, that middle ground where it's you're

00:25:54.049 --> 00:25:58.369
cleaning up skin, but not changing the skin.

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:02.490
So that has been, that has definitely been a

00:26:02.490 --> 00:26:08.130
challenge and a misconception as well. You know,

00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:15.369
the kids nowadays, they want not to look and

00:26:15.369 --> 00:26:18.049
having parents come in and see everything that

00:26:18.049 --> 00:26:23.819
goes into it from the scheduling. Because I'm

00:26:23.819 --> 00:26:26.099
good. I work full -time too. I have a full -time

00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:28.660
job. I work. I work 40 hours a week during the

00:26:28.660 --> 00:26:39.539
daytime. Sorry my pup pup is So I only shoot

00:26:39.539 --> 00:26:43.599
two hours a night in the evening and I've gone

00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:46.920
to a every other day so if I shoot two hours

00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.640
on Monday in the evening then the next shooting

00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:52.599
day is gonna be Wednesday and and that's to,

00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:54.500
you know, keep the peace in my household because

00:26:54.500 --> 00:27:00.339
I tend to work a lot. And, and so it's a lot

00:27:00.339 --> 00:27:04.559
to schedule, to be able to schedule 40 kids,

00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:09.680
you know, 50 kids. South Cobb football team had

00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.640
80 kids. I know North Balding has about 80 kids

00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:17.559
in their football team. Now I only do the seniors

00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.849
for the football teams now. So that brings it

00:27:21.849 --> 00:27:25.029
down to about 40 kids, which is nice and doable

00:27:25.029 --> 00:27:32.630
for me. I have learned that sometimes I overestimate

00:27:32.630 --> 00:27:37.130
what I can handle and I've learned that marching

00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:41.670
bands are very difficult for me because they're

00:27:41.670 --> 00:27:46.000
130 heads or so somewhere in there. And that

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.559
would definitely require me going to the school

00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:54.359
in a couple days by myself. And so that's not

00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.799
really something I want to do anymore at this

00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.079
stage in my life. I want to focus on seniors,

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.099
senior banners, 40 kids is great. Anything after

00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:06.279
that, we'll have to figure something else out.

00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.579
Have you had to do jobs where you collaborated

00:28:10.579 --> 00:28:13.480
with other photographers in order to pull off

00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:19.400
the project? Yes, actually I I did aqueous football

00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.839
and cheer one year and that was about a hundred

00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.819
and eighty kids And I flew my friend in from

00:28:27.819 --> 00:28:32.019
Colorado to help with that And I could have found

00:28:32.019 --> 00:28:35.259
somebody here locally, but he wanted to learn

00:28:35.259 --> 00:28:39.160
volume himself He's a great friend of my husband's

00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:42.980
so they wanted to hang out and catch up. That's

00:28:42.980 --> 00:28:47.900
where I'm from. I'm from Colorado. And then I

00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:51.140
also am a big proponent of teaching and mentoring.

00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.000
I've mentored several high school kids in the

00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:01.339
area in Paulding County who've gone on to shoot

00:29:01.339 --> 00:29:04.900
in college or try to have their own business.

00:29:06.149 --> 00:29:10.289
local legends. I've worked with them. They do

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:16.670
a football camp, a free football camp with students

00:29:16.670 --> 00:29:18.910
and student athletes who have gone on to play

00:29:18.910 --> 00:29:22.990
pro or somewhere in college. And they do a little

00:29:22.990 --> 00:29:27.710
kitty camp down at I think it's that East Calding.

00:29:27.789 --> 00:29:30.349
I haven't been able to do that the last two years.

00:29:30.390 --> 00:29:32.769
I've been out of town and then I've had my joint

00:29:32.769 --> 00:29:35.250
problem in my hand. So I referred that out to

00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:40.089
my friend Wyatt and he's from North Calding,

00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:46.269
a student there. So I do believe a lot in passing,

00:29:47.430 --> 00:29:52.150
you know, not being a gatekeeper and, you know,

00:29:52.289 --> 00:29:56.230
teaching and only Only good things come from

00:29:56.230 --> 00:30:00.789
passing on information to our younger generations.

00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:03.490
Definitely. That's actually going to be my next

00:30:03.490 --> 00:30:05.730
question as far as like mentoring, education,

00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:08.730
things of the nature. How do you feel about that?

00:30:08.890 --> 00:30:10.349
But you know, you've expressed that, which is

00:30:10.349 --> 00:30:13.329
great because I like to do the same thing and

00:30:13.329 --> 00:30:16.910
mentor and teach those who are, you know, having

00:30:16.910 --> 00:30:19.569
difficulty or who might not just understand how

00:30:19.569 --> 00:30:22.779
the industry works. How has the industry changed

00:30:22.779 --> 00:30:27.339
over the last few years from your perspective?

00:30:32.259 --> 00:30:39.240
People are in nature for planners, I would like

00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:44.220
to say. They usually will wait until the last

00:30:44.220 --> 00:30:47.859
minute to need something and then the need is

00:30:47.859 --> 00:30:51.640
right away. You know what I'm saying? It's not

00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.079
a fault of anyone's. I truly believe that that

00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.940
is kind of a human nature. People are just so

00:30:56.940 --> 00:31:01.940
busy nowadays, they forget, you know. So I have

00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:05.880
seen that the time crunch has gotten much shorter.

00:31:07.099 --> 00:31:14.019
People expect instant results and instant gratification,

00:31:14.059 --> 00:31:18.500
which is in some cases very easily done with

00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:21.920
digital photography. and the way that you shoot,

00:31:22.299 --> 00:31:25.799
you know, if we're shooting like smoke and fog

00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.720
or like a mist, those types of images take very,

00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:36.000
very, very little editing. I actually shot, I

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.000
think I had 10 kids last night, football kids,

00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.660
and no, I had 12. And I've already finished their

00:31:43.660 --> 00:31:46.339
black set. I call it a black set because it's

00:31:46.339 --> 00:31:51.309
on a black paper. And so we did smoke. And I've

00:31:51.309 --> 00:31:54.049
already finished editing those images for parents.

00:31:54.210 --> 00:31:56.670
I was getting ready to post some later this evening

00:31:56.670 --> 00:31:59.809
as a little sneak peek. And then I'll have more

00:31:59.809 --> 00:32:04.109
kids tomorrow. But people want things instantly.

00:32:04.150 --> 00:32:06.190
And in some cases, you can get them pretty quick,

00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:10.549
especially with action photography. I've shot

00:32:10.549 --> 00:32:16.299
a basketball game at North Calving. At halftime,

00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:20.079
I uploaded the images from my camera using my

00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.400
phone's Wi -Fi to Smug Mug, and I sent a link

00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.359
to Coach Willis. And he's like, how did you do

00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:34.680
that? And I'm like, why? So they had images before

00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.420
I even before the game was finished, you know,

00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:41.660
and between the girls game and the boys game,

00:32:41.660 --> 00:32:44.019
I had the girls images up before the boys game

00:32:44.019 --> 00:32:48.140
even started. So there is some, you know, you

00:32:48.140 --> 00:32:52.859
are able to do it. The problem that I have had

00:32:52.859 --> 00:32:57.359
with that stuff is that once you do it one time,

00:32:57.819 --> 00:33:00.420
it's expected and it's expected out of everyone

00:33:00.420 --> 00:33:07.039
from there on out. And I, I just don't have that

00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.559
time. I don't have that kind of time. So I can

00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.359
do it sometimes, you know. but I can't guarantee

00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.059
that I'm going to be able to turn that around

00:33:14.059 --> 00:33:17.099
instantly every single time. So that is definitely

00:33:17.099 --> 00:33:22.680
something that I've seen over time. Also, I think

00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.099
because of AI and digital and stuff like that,

00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:32.059
I really do believe that the art aspect of photography

00:33:32.059 --> 00:33:36.859
has been lost. It's been lost to time and people

00:33:36.859 --> 00:33:45.809
don't value art like they used to. And I do think

00:33:45.809 --> 00:33:50.250
that that's a generational thing. When I was

00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:53.869
growing up, I took art all through high school.

00:33:54.029 --> 00:33:56.130
It was my favorite class, my favorite teacher,

00:33:56.309 --> 00:33:58.529
everything. I can tell you so many different

00:33:58.529 --> 00:34:03.339
things about Monet, Renoir. you know, and going

00:34:03.339 --> 00:34:06.680
into an art museum like the Smithsonian, I can

00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.280
spend hours there, you know, looking for a particular

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.659
painting and know things about that painting,

00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.320
where I don't think that it's not that the kids

00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:20.039
are interested in it. I don't think that they're

00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.679
being taught those things anymore, you know.

00:34:24.179 --> 00:34:28.840
And so I believe that the value of art has Unless

00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.940
you're familiar with art in itself the value

00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:34.440
of that and creating it has kind of been lost

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:40.840
at the time. So people want a high quality product

00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.320
for as little money as possible And let's face

00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.219
it people are just not you know, we're none of

00:34:49.219 --> 00:34:55.659
us are getting any richer and uh and everything

00:34:55.659 --> 00:34:59.860
takes time to create and uh what you're really

00:34:59.860 --> 00:35:03.340
paying for is time that's that's what it is yeah

00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:05.579
what's that saying this is like the triangle

00:35:05.579 --> 00:35:07.440
you can have two out of three you can have a

00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:11.739
quick you can have a cheap or you can have quality

00:35:11.739 --> 00:35:14.579
yeah but you can't get all three and you gotta

00:35:14.579 --> 00:35:22.320
pick your two I use that analogy all the time

00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:30.039
actually. It's an unfortunate way to live. I

00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:32.000
have not seen anyone who could do all three.

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.440
Any business, even corporations can't do all

00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:39.059
three. You have to pick your battles. I think

00:35:39.059 --> 00:35:41.460
with art, especially when it comes to school

00:35:41.460 --> 00:35:44.260
systems and the fact that when school fundings

00:35:44.260 --> 00:35:46.719
are cut, most of the time they're cutting artistic

00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.360
type things. There's music, art, whatever the

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:55.000
case and it's hard to show the generations coming

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.780
up with the value of art when they're not even

00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:00.860
introduced to it properly and they have all these

00:36:00.860 --> 00:36:05.599
technologies and things that are built on efficiency

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.800
and going fast but not necessarily telling them

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.059
what they're missing out on. Yeah and working

00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:16.219
with public schools is a, you know, funding is

00:36:16.219 --> 00:36:20.179
a huge issue. And I don't know if you know in

00:36:20.179 --> 00:36:24.239
Pullman County School District, but like a long

00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.719
time ago, somebody somewhere voted to sports

00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.480
and extracurricular activities are not funded

00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:42.260
by the male levy. And so the is. Fundraising

00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:46.280
is really imperative to sports programs and not

00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.260
just any sports, not just sports programs, but

00:36:49.260 --> 00:36:52.579
any extracurricular program in the high schools

00:36:52.579 --> 00:36:56.159
that are giving these kids something to do other

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than, you know, all the things that they shouldn't

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do. It's very important. And these sports programs

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rely heavily on fundraising and however they

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can. And that is one thing that I've really prided

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myself on is being able to help the programs.

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If they need something, then I'm going to do

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whatever it is that I can to get them that. If

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they need banners at a discount, then I'm more

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than happy to negotiate or trade or something

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like that in order to make sure that these kids

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have their senior year. And that's important

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because they only get one senior year. And if

00:37:48.010 --> 00:37:51.409
these kids are planning on playing in college

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later, it's really important. And I really do

00:37:55.969 --> 00:37:58.929
stress this a lot to coaches. They know, though.

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Coaches know. But to the parents, how important

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it is for an athlete who is looking to play sports

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in college and try to get recruited how important

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it is for them to have good images of themselves,

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not only playing games and not only video of

00:38:17.849 --> 00:38:20.250
them playing, you know, and showcasing their

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talent, but they recruiters and college coaches,

00:38:25.829 --> 00:38:28.889
they want to see, you know, how tall you are.

00:38:29.050 --> 00:38:31.530
How do you present yourself? Do you take care

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of yourself? What is your character like? And

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a lot of that can be seen through an image. you

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know um and so I do stress a lot to parents that

00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.019
hey this is really important I have uh you know

00:38:46.019 --> 00:38:49.079
I have programs in place to help your kid get

00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.059
these images um it's you know I do a lot like

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I said I do a lot of backscratching and a lot

00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.260
of trading and um to make those things happen

00:38:58.260 --> 00:39:02.760
for um people who might feel like it's out of

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reach for them so it is important though. I definitely

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love it. I want to thank you for taking the time

00:39:08.980 --> 00:39:11.980
out your busy day to share your story. A lot

00:39:11.980 --> 00:39:15.579
of gems you've mentioned, but for anyone out

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there as far as like booster clubs and the other

00:39:17.860 --> 00:39:20.800
people in the Pawada County area that might want

00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.920
to, you know, check out the images or hit you

00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:26.639
up or even just, you know, get advice and guidance

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on what they should do. How should they reach

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out to you? Well, text message, I live on my

00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.699
phone. phone, unfortunately. That message is

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the best and I really feel that email is going

00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:46.000
wayside. Everything goes to spam for me. I can

00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:56.619
attest to it. And Instagram. Instagram is my

00:39:56.619 --> 00:39:59.300
social. So that is the platform that I choose

00:39:59.300 --> 00:40:03.219
is Instagram. I'm on there. All my handles are

00:40:04.720 --> 00:40:08.559
Onitsports like you own something owns Onitsports

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and Yeah, I'm on Facebook Instagram and they

00:40:13.139 --> 00:40:16.480
can text me and that number is on my website

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Onitsports .us Thank you for your time y 'all

00:40:23.099 --> 00:40:27.179
can go and check out Sony's work Instagram text

00:40:27.179 --> 00:40:29.519
if you want to get a contact with her Just send

00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:35.820
me a text y 'all Y 'all keep supporting the platform

00:40:35.820 --> 00:40:38.199
and everybody that we bring over here and go

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and check out their work. I'm your host, Andreas,

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with Bank That Radio Show.