The Ninth Child: A Life of Secrets, Survival and Rebellion

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Tune in for another episode of Bankedoutt Radio

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Show, titled Music and Business. And today on

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the business side, we're talking with Miss Tina

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Marie, or you might know her as the author, Tina

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Marie Hunt. Three books, first of all. That's

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a lot. At least three books in the same year.

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Now we're gonna get into it and I got another

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comment about that as well. But Tina, thank you

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for coming onto the platform. We never did, we

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didn't do an interview or anything before, haven't

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we? Isn't this the first video? I mean, not first

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video, look at that. See, I'm sitting there talking

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about videos instead of talking about this. This

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is the first interview, isn't it? This is the

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first interview outside of what you've done for

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us. Yeah, with the podcast episodes and stuff.

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Yeah. Are you ever gonna start that back up or?

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I want to start my own podcast up. I want to

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read it and I'm going to call it black plus brilliant.

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The audacity. Okay, before you start it up, we

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have a conversation because I want to put you

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on some game with all that. But you can you can

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start making money from your after your attempt

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to download. Sounds good to me. Yeah, because,

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you know, well, first of all, statistics just

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put them out there. People don't know there's

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over six million podcasts and only 10 % of actually

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active meaning that they survived and went past

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their first 10 episodes. Wow. That's across all

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genres. So you're talking about narrating, interview

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style, relationships, cooking, whatever you can

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think of as something to where people make a

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podcast about, it falls within that 10 % spectrum.

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So people think it's over saturated. It's not

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even, it ain't even hit the point yet. Reason

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being is because people don't realize how much,

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huh? I believe that. yeah because people don't

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realize how well yeah they believe that it's

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over saturated because they see so many of them

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out there but what they're not they're looking

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at the creation numbers and not the active numbers

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and the active number is what you know i'm saying

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for the industry so 90 percent of them are not

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even active that's because you know they don't

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realize how much work it is it's a lot of work

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yeah because you're building a platform just

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like being an author you know it's all a business

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your business Your business now, do you recognize

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that you're a business by being an author? I

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guess I didn't think of it that way, you know

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But I guess you're right yeah I've done I've

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interviewed. Oh No, let's say I can't even remember

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about ten offers now, right? I've also interviewed

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What they call them? It's sort of like brokers.

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They're publishing agencies Publicist? Publicist?

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No, not the publicist. Well, when you say publicist,

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I'm thinking of a PR person for music and stuff.

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I'm talking about the actual publishing house

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company. Editors? Not the editors. They actually

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broker. They help broker publishing deals. Oh.

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Listen. Well, this is why I wanted to talk about

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this, because it correlates. So I was talking

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to this guy, I was back in, I think I want to

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say 2023 or maybe 2024. I gotta go find an interview.

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I'll have to send you a link to it. But he was

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telling me about the numbers when it comes to

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people writing this stuff. It's very easy to

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upload your own book to Amazon KDP, which is

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Kindle Direct Publishing. And now it's available

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for print on demand all over the world. So getting

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somebody to actually pay attention to your book

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is far more difficult today than it was a few

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years ago. The average author sells 100 books

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in their lifetime. Now I have a pretty big audience,

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a couple hundred thousand followers. My goal

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was originally to get the book out in June and

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then give myself six months to sell 10 ,000 copies.

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So did you know that you actually are in the

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top one percent of authors who publish? What?

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Yeah, because he says only 1 % of out authors

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who's actually right only 1 % of them actually

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published I Can honor that? A lot of books that

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are written that are not published. I dig that

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I do Wow And then guess what you get like we

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were talking about this was fascinating. It's

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business to me He said that over a lifetime,

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right? Authors only who self -publish or, you

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know, maybe they link up with a publisher, but

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they're using them more like a distribution platform

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and we'll get into yours as well. They only sell

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100 books over their lifetime. Yeah, there's

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a lot of them that fit in that category. Wow.

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Yeah. So I'm like, 100? I'm like, man, shoot,

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if I published a book and yeah, I hit that 100,

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I hit past that. But it's about the creative

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aspect of it for the author most times. You know

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what I'm saying? Because you have those people

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who fall in the realms of, and I feel like, you

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know what I'm saying? You're like me. But most

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people fall in the realms of the creative space

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of creating something, right? And that's what

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they're great at. Right. They don't know how

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to execute on the business side or like, you

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know, really get it to where, you know, people

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are seeing the value in what they're doing. So

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they have a hard time with that and they struggle.

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I believe you can do both sides. I think you

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can. And it all depends on your bandwidth, too.

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Well, that's what I was saying. Like, you know,

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a lot of creative people who are left -brained

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or whichever side of the hemisphere of the brain

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it is, they stick on that side and then the logic

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side of the opposite side. You don't have that

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many who can bounce between both being creative

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and seeing the logic as far as like business

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and stuff. right side and the logic rest in the

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left okay so yes but there's not a lot of people

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who can you know exercise both parts like that

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so so the ones that you know they're like like

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a tennis ball go back before between both sides

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those are the uh special people that's us Yeah,

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I guess. Special is not a bad thing here. I wonder

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about me because I do the most. I don't say you

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do the most. I just say that you're ambitious,

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right? You like to get things done. You have

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a vision for something you like to execute. I

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do. Sometimes, you know, everybody. is not on

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par with all that or whatever, because maybe

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they can't pull it off to the magnitude of what

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they want to, or they just don't want to admit

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that that's where their weakness is. That's so

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true. Yeah, so, but I want to get into one, based

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off of your background and what I do know, what

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would lead you down this road of becoming an

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author? So when I saw this question, I was like,

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well, what kind of question is this? I have lots

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of fun questions. What? So I'm just just honestly,

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nothing really inspired me to become an author.

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I needed to tell my story. And I felt like that

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was the only way to really tell my story. Writing

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it down helped people to understand what I really

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did go through. You know, I can sit and talk

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to you for um minutes or hours or conversational

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and I still won't get a chance to tell you the

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story the way it actually happened um and a lot

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of people used to say to me you need to write

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a book and that was cool and I even tried it

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I tried it for years maybe like eight years but

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I had to realize that it wasn't for them My story

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inspired it. The encouragement was there, but

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the truth is the book was for my healing. So

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why publish it then? Because again, you could

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have just kept it to yourself and you would have

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got what you were looking for, which was the

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healing. Absolutely could have done that, but

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I published it because maybe someone else has

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a similar story or some similar things that has

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happened to them in the way that it happened

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to me or a similar, you know, because now I only

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not only did I have religious organization or

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a cult experience, I also am a trauma survivor,

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domestic violence, all of those things. So there

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are things in that book that can relate to everyone,

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man or a girl. So we're talking about your memoir,

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the Russian roulette. Yes, which is 391 pages.

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Yes, ma 'am. Harry Potter series. Harry Potter

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series over here. I love it, though. You had

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so much experience and so much to put out there

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that it had to amass to that, which is fantastic.

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in the way that, you know what I'm saying, it

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shows the story. And just from like a content

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creation standpoint, oh my goodness, that would

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be a whole lot of content that could just be

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created just based off the story alone. I agree.

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So yeah, I'm like, I know people who have written

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books where, you know, they've been turned into

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movies and stuff. And I'm like, that's like,

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you know what I'm saying, that's a couple of

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movies. It would be and people are like, well,

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I wish Curtis Jackson get a hold of this or Lila

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Waithe or something and it become a series. I'm

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like, I wish too. You never know though, put

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it out there in universal laws of attraction,

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huh? Right. So was that the first one you started

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writing? Because again, like I just mentioned

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earlier, you put out three books in one year

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and two of them on the same day. So it did by

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no stretch of imagination are these books. like

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30, 40, 50 pages. A novel to the black man, the

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ink of creation is 155 pages. And then the, is

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that the go glow? Yes. 113 pages. That's still

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a lot. I wrote Russian roulette first. How long

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did it take you to write that? I am embarrassed

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to say that it took me 10 weeks. Why is that

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an embarrassment? You sound like you just locked

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in. I did. I did. You were writing every day,

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like, what, six, seven hours a day or four hours

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a day, something like that? It just depended

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on how the day went because there were times

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that I could not write because of some of the

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things that I had to revisit took a lot out of

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me and I completely had to deal with that and

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process through those emotions. But I would write

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when I had spare time. I didn't talk on the phone.

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I didn't watch TV. I mean, if I woke up in the

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middle of the night, I was writing. I mean, talking

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into my voice notes, remembering things, recalling

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all of that. So I didn't stop. I just kept going.

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This sounds like back when I used to be an active

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recording artist, way back when, about 10 plus

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years ago. Which, by the way, can still go on

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streaming music if you figure out my recording

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name. But anyway, you said what? I'm going to

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do it. Don't challenge me. It's not hard to find.

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Like DI said, it is not hard to find. But I remember

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recording two projects at the same time. So I

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understand where you enter this space of creativity.

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you just got to get out because it keeps nacking

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at you, nacking at you. Like you literally cannot

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sleep because you will wake up. And I had this

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experience actually recently where when I was

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redoing the podcast and trying to figure out

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like which distribution platform that I want

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to switch to, I want to go ahead and get it to

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the point to where, you know, I'm in an area

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I want to build up. And as I build, I want to

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learn from what I did when I was in making and

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execute that even faster. to where I can build

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this platform and then, you know, I can have

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all this different, you know, money coming in.

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Money isn't the focal point, but I don't want

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any of my energy and efforts to go to waste either.

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Right. So I woke up with all these different

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ideas and just kept on researching and researching

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and just coming up with different stuff. And

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my brain would not turn off until I executed

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all this stuff. And like over the last couple

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of weeks, I've done at least about 12 interviews.

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And I've been, you know, gradually putting them

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out. And then I have more. What's today? Thursday.

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I got two tomorrow. I have one scheduled already

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and I stopped doing them on the weekend just

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so I could have some sanity and also enjoy the

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weekend. But then I got one lined up, I think,

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for Monday and another one already scheduled

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for next week as well. And I got a few more that

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are interested. I'll keep going this thing out,

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but I do understand that process. Do you feel

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like at this particular point, you was able to

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get out all that creativity? I still have it

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going. So you're still working on stuff now,

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even though... I have so many things that I'm

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working on. So now you just basically got a...

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What do they say? Like you only live life once

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and stuff like that, so no matter what you do,

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it makes you happy. I agree because when I wrote

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Rush and Roulette, probably about three weeks

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before I published that book, I started writing

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Go Glow because something in me was like, wait

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a minute, now you're getting ready to go through

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a glow. Like you cracked open and I got to take

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you through this process. But I want you to tell

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somebody else so they know how to do it. And

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then during the Go Glow, it was like, well, maybe

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men. may want something too. So a lot of black,

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a lot of our culture come to me to talk. I work

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in HR as a professional and I used to be a pastor's

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wife and that put the front and center for people

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to just confide in me. I know a lot. And my big

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brother, he's, you know, my best friend, he's

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a guy. And I'm like, hey, nobody ever stops to

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encourage the black man. Not really, I think

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I've forgotten about species over here. So I

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wanted that to be my love letter to the black

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man. So how would you like title that in as far

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as what category would they put that under? Self

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-help, healing. And then the go glow as well

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or? Yes. Now the Russian roulette. I understand

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what a memoir is, but I want everybody else to

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understand as well. So it's a memoir and it's

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autobiographical. Did I say it right? I think

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so. But it's more about a piece in time in your

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life as opposed to going into the chronological

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order for it. Yes, it is definitely written nonlinear.

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I didn't. I went in chronological, but I didn't

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because sometimes stories can't be told in the

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fullness chronologically because everything doesn't

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always unfold right away. Exactly. I love that

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you said that. What was your expectations for

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these books? like as you're writing them and

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then you're like, you know what? I'm gonna publish

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them. Did you have any expectations for them?

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Honestly, there has been no expectations for

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me. Other people have expectations, but my expectation

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was just to use my voice. I found my voice again.

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I had been silenced for a long time. I found

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my place and I realized that my voice is powerful.

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Why not go? So as you're going through this process,

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how did your network of people? Accept the idea

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that okay. I'm about to write these books, but

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you know, we like to share our ideas and stuff

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like that Everybody like no, I didn't know actually.

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Um, I didn't tell a whole lot of people when

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I began I told Let me see how many people did

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I tell? Maybe two or three people who I really,

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really trusted. Were they encouraging? Very much

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so. One person I told last year, I wish I had

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never told him, but I thought he forgot all about

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it. And one day out of nowhere, he was just like,

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when are you going to write your book? And I

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was like, what? And went out of sight out of

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mind and a couple of months later something transpired

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and it just cracked a memory open in me and I

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was like, oh I'm gonna write that down and then

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from that and on I just couldn't stop So why

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didn't you like the fact that you told that person?

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I'm sorry. Why didn't you like the fact that

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you told that person? Because he remembered and

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I didn't expect him to So you didn't want to

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be held accountable? Not for that, because I

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didn't know if I was ready. Andreas, honestly,

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I've been trying to write that book for eight

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years. And every time I could never get past

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chapter one or two. Those were the hardest. It

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wasn't time for you though. I get it. I get it

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now. You see like, okay, so let's go here then.

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You put the book out and from my understanding,

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I don't know which ones the people were reacting

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to. I just saw them reacting. So you tell me,

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which one were they reacting to? Russian Roulette.

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Okay. So you put this book out and I see all

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these positive comments with it. You were supposed

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to like, you know, touch people. And had you

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not stuck to that, because it's easy to get,

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you know, I tell people all the time. One of

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the easiest things to do is to quit. I agree.

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You know, quitting is quitting. It's so easy.

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But look what you did. You stuck with the idea.

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Even though you couldn't get past, you know,

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chapter one or chapter two, you still allow the

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idea to just sit there and ferment and, you know,

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grow and, you know, eventually blossom once they

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got, you know, what you needed as far as the

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idea to be watered and nurtured and all that

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stuff, whatever, even like the accountability,

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all that stuff. They had you not done that You

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don't know what you know saying those people

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would have not experienced in how You know, you're

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supposed to change lives when you put your stories

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out there. I agree And it turns people like,

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you know, maybe they're going left But they need

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to turn right or maybe they're going right and

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they need to turn left and it's three years worth

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of inspiration Yeah, and I mean it in a bad way

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that I was upset with him because he reminded

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me It was just that I think I didn't expect him

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to you know what I'm saying. I just didn't have

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that expectation I get that you know I get that

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you know, but it's good to be you know I'm saying

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that people hold you accountable though It is

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I appreciate him now. Mm -hmm. I really do So

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what has been the most gratifying thing that

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you've experienced so far in releasing this to

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the public? The most gratifying thing for me

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is has been the reach and Knowing that people

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actually read it and can relate to it I can take

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something away from it for themselves Forget

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that have you met anyone else who have like had

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similar experiences like you know like to say

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being in the cult or anything to that magnitude

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Not directly, no. At what point did you realize

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you were the Nicole? Right before I got a divorce.

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Okay, I get that. What helped shed light on that

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for you? You know, because sometimes it might

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take, you know, other people to say things or

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strangers. It did, it did. It was years of just

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people here and there saying things. Maybe about

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eight years of people constantly, not necessarily

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constantly, just, you know, here and there. And

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I think 2015 was the year that really started

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to pay attention to a lot of things. And my sister

00:22:01.299 --> 00:22:03.940
and I talked about some things because we were

00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:06.460
both in there together. We talked about some

00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:09.160
things that we were experiencing and we didn't

00:22:09.160 --> 00:22:14.380
understand and we vowed to leave together. But

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we didn't leave until 2016. People at my job

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would tell me, hey, you know, that's a cult or.

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People musicians friends would say oh, that's

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a cold or and I'm like, no, it's not I could

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prove this prove that but eventually I started

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to do my own research and Like is this something

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that I see myself doing for the rest of my life

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like or is this what God actually? Intended for

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me is to be under the control of someone else

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someone who doesn't want me to better myself

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or they just have children for the rest of my

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life and nothing wrong with that, but That's

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the expect that was the expectation of the ministry.

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Yeah, because I birthed 12 kids I don't know

00:23:04.420 --> 00:23:07.140
if you want to touch on that now there, but you

00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:16.039
know Okay, so as because it's your memoir if

00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:19.660
these are your truth yeah, so your quote -unquote

00:23:19.660 --> 00:23:23.259
characters How do they feel about notes in your

00:23:23.259 --> 00:23:25.839
truth in your perspective and it being out there?

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My characters only two of them three of them

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have said anything. I don't know how the rest

00:23:32.130 --> 00:23:35.730
of them feel and honestly Maybe a year or two

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ago. I told them I said, hey, I'm gonna write

00:23:37.910 --> 00:23:39.690
a book one day I'm just letting y 'all know and

00:23:39.690 --> 00:23:41.769
they were like, well I don't care if you say

00:23:41.769 --> 00:23:43.950
whatever you got to say and I said I'm gonna

00:23:43.950 --> 00:23:46.710
put your name in it And a couple of those characters

00:23:46.710 --> 00:23:52.690
have their real name and they know Yeah So they'll

00:23:52.690 --> 00:23:58.059
get that I didn't know that you were, let me

00:23:58.059 --> 00:24:04.980
get this right, the 9th of 10. Yeah. 10th of

00:24:04.980 --> 00:24:08.640
the 11th because I was told after I wrote the

00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:10.680
book that my mom had a miscarriage right before

00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:15.400
me. Oh, wow. But let's see, my girl called it

00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:19.960
a rainbow baby. Rainbow child, yes. I've just

00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.170
learned about that term recently. I didn't know

00:24:23.170 --> 00:24:24.829
what that meant. So I asked them, like, what

00:24:24.829 --> 00:24:26.730
does that mean? They're like, oh, it's the child

00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:32.890
that comes after the miscarriage. I'm like, oh,

00:24:32.890 --> 00:24:38.170
OK. I guess Tess got my hands on that. I got

00:24:38.170 --> 00:24:42.910
to think about that. Yeah, so when I read that,

00:24:43.049 --> 00:24:44.809
I was like, you know what? The first time I thought

00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:47.549
of my head, I thought about Wilma Rudolph and

00:24:47.549 --> 00:24:50.480
how she came from a big family but you know way

00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.740
more than uh 10 though but then you also having

00:24:53.740 --> 00:24:57.500
12 and i'm like i wonder if that played a role

00:24:57.500 --> 00:25:04.180
in that so let everybody know how is it being

00:25:04.180 --> 00:25:11.220
a mother of 12 i mean you have a dozen how is

00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:15.259
it being a mother of 12 yeah um it used to be

00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:21.650
full of anxiety I get that. But as I accepted

00:25:21.650 --> 00:25:29.910
my path, as I lived my life and stopped grasping

00:25:29.910 --> 00:25:33.970
for breath, I learned that my kids are pretty

00:25:33.970 --> 00:25:39.250
cool. And being mothering them now is a joy.

00:25:41.009 --> 00:25:43.609
I mean, I wish I could go back and do better.

00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:46.900
For those days, um, I would go in my room and

00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:49.039
close the door and go to sleep and maybe jumping

00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.539
off the couch cooking Whatever my house side

00:25:52.539 --> 00:25:55.700
is 2020 though. I mean we can't do that Because

00:25:55.700 --> 00:25:57.839
we're learning is you know i'm saying me, you

00:25:57.839 --> 00:25:59.900
know i'm saying being a father of eight. We're

00:25:59.900 --> 00:26:04.339
learning And you know Exactly. So I had to use

00:26:04.339 --> 00:26:07.460
what it is. I had to reparent me so that I can

00:26:07.460 --> 00:26:11.400
learn how to parent them I definitely get there

00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.539
with uh, I hope it's the youngest now She's 11.

00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:20.140
Okay, and then oldest She'll be 25 this month

00:26:20.140 --> 00:26:23.960
Okay, so you got a whole good range of mixtures

00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:25.920
and stuff. They're still going to like graduations

00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:28.400
and things of that nature Yeah, and then still,

00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:32.059
you know learning the world and I think you know,

00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:33.640
the more kids we have the better it makes us

00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.240
anyway because You know the first few are a couple,

00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.559
you know, we're learning our lessons as parents

00:26:41.180 --> 00:26:42.920
And we get to be better parents to the younger

00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:44.400
ones. That's why I say anyway, my first said

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.000
my second said they had different experiences.

00:26:47.700 --> 00:26:51.000
You know, I'm a man enough to admit that not

00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.160
saying I was bad, but I could have done some

00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.440
things differently. But at the same time, I was

00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.119
still a young parent and learned. Right. And

00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:03.539
we all do that. What writing like all these pieces

00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:10.019
of work? What has been like the most? I guess.

00:27:11.089 --> 00:27:13.109
What's the one thing that stands out to you?

00:27:13.109 --> 00:27:17.730
What have you learned as an author? Oh my gosh.

00:27:20.009 --> 00:27:26.069
I learned that... I don't know if I learned a

00:27:26.069 --> 00:27:29.730
lesson from writing. I think the lesson was already

00:27:29.730 --> 00:27:33.170
there. Writing helped me to understand it, organize

00:27:33.170 --> 00:27:36.650
it, and face it. And if anything, writing opened

00:27:36.650 --> 00:27:41.920
the portals to my purpose. So what is your purpose?

00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:46.880
To use my voice Okay, so now you build a platform

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.619
to use your voice Yes, whatever that is my frameworks

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:53.259
my books my authorship my partnership that I'm

00:27:53.259 --> 00:27:56.200
working with with someone else right now that

00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:03.099
belongs to my purpose I Like that Does that scare

00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:05.779
you in any way as far as like, you know, yes,

00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.480
okay Yeah, this is a good scare though. It is

00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.740
a good scary Okay, it's not the bad scares the

00:28:12.740 --> 00:28:15.599
good scary I think I think Jeezy said his quote

00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.660
one time where If your dreams or your goals don't

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:21.440
scare you then your goals aren't big enough.

00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.319
I Man, I swear one morning. I woke up and was

00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:33.980
like what actually Because I feel like I'm getting

00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:37.859
ready to make magic, right some magic happened,

00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:39.920
especially in our community. I can't talk about

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:44.440
it right now, but I can't wait to tell you. And

00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:50.420
one morning I woke up and it was just like, do

00:28:50.420 --> 00:28:52.359
you really know what you're about to start? And

00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.559
I was like, uh, I really don't. And then when

00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.000
I thought about it, I was like, yo, you did.

00:28:58.460 --> 00:29:00.920
So I'll tell you this much. I built a cartoon

00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:08.569
using AI and I generated over 1 ,000 clips, but

00:29:08.569 --> 00:29:15.430
I put together 288 second clips to form an entire

00:29:15.430 --> 00:29:22.950
story arc. One of the first type, and I can't

00:29:22.950 --> 00:29:28.650
wait to share more details about it. That's another

00:29:28.650 --> 00:29:31.680
thing that you're being creative. And you're

00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:33.180
tapping into that because you know, I knew that

00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:35.099
when you know shooting podcasts and stuff like

00:29:35.099 --> 00:29:36.839
that I was like, oh yeah, she's creative. I can

00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:40.400
just tell She has all this it's telling inside

00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.759
of her and it just takes you know I'm saying

00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.980
doing one thing to the next thing to the next

00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:48.099
thing to where you know People will see all the

00:29:48.099 --> 00:29:50.799
different creative things put together and form

00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.779
projects whether it be books cartoon, whatever

00:29:52.779 --> 00:29:58.900
the case may be That aspect of you so pushing

00:29:58.900 --> 00:30:01.420
all these books like how do you promote your

00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:03.220
books and put them out there and let people know

00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:07.279
about them? Right now I'm really not heavily

00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.019
promoting them because I've been kind of engorged

00:30:11.019 --> 00:30:14.460
in my frameworks and what I have going on because

00:30:14.460 --> 00:30:18.539
in the middle of me building that collaboration

00:30:18.539 --> 00:30:21.579
I'm also building a leadership framework for

00:30:21.579 --> 00:30:25.730
professionals. So I want to keep Want to get

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:29.069
this all out of my head. I just got to so I'm

00:30:29.069 --> 00:30:32.910
looking into hiring a group of promoters to Assist

00:30:32.910 --> 00:30:34.950
me with that because I don't have the bandwidth

00:30:34.950 --> 00:30:44.809
now get it you talk Like I said like I was talking

00:30:44.809 --> 00:30:48.369
to a few authors one time where I got these books

00:30:48.369 --> 00:30:50.450
and I was reading them and there was someone

00:30:50.450 --> 00:30:55.109
who wrote a Book just as big as yours Somewhere

00:30:55.109 --> 00:30:57.849
around there. And when I was reading her story,

00:30:57.849 --> 00:31:00.849
I was like, man, this would be great content

00:31:00.849 --> 00:31:04.369
for skits. Wow. I was like, no, you have to look

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:06.829
at it like differently. How people interpret

00:31:06.829 --> 00:31:10.529
stuff. Right. When you find someone who could

00:31:10.529 --> 00:31:13.130
take something that you have and like repurpose

00:31:13.130 --> 00:31:16.970
it, just let it take the life of its own. So

00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:22.609
I think that's a tool that authors should utilize.

00:31:23.169 --> 00:31:24.589
And find people, you know, opportunity to do

00:31:24.589 --> 00:31:26.490
stuff like that. Like I do that with songs right

00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:32.609
now. Have I done anyone's books? I don't think

00:31:32.609 --> 00:31:34.369
I've done anyone's books per se, but I've read

00:31:34.369 --> 00:31:38.630
stories where, you know, you can easily do that

00:31:38.630 --> 00:31:41.309
and like pull out that type of material in his.

00:31:41.750 --> 00:31:44.690
It's great because it's original in the fact

00:31:44.690 --> 00:31:46.329
that, you know, I'm saying it's something different,

00:31:46.349 --> 00:31:51.049
but it also swings back to the book. Yeah, like,

00:31:51.049 --> 00:31:52.990
you know what? I'm gonna go check that out and

00:31:52.990 --> 00:31:54.089
stuff like that, because if they didn't pull

00:31:54.089 --> 00:31:56.250
stuff off like that, because to me, books are

00:31:56.250 --> 00:31:59.829
nothing but like. Manuscripts for movies and

00:31:59.829 --> 00:32:06.150
stuff differently. I agree. So, you know, it

00:32:06.150 --> 00:32:11.869
could be in the play. Do you plan on like being

00:32:11.869 --> 00:32:13.990
a full time creative, like, you know, in a near

00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:21.490
future or. I want to get to that point in in.

00:32:21.470 --> 00:32:25.329
I would like to be near, but I'm patient with

00:32:25.329 --> 00:32:29.589
with with it coming. But I would that that's

00:32:29.589 --> 00:32:32.890
really my purpose. And I know that I can't eventually

00:32:32.890 --> 00:32:35.410
won't be able to work a full time job and walk

00:32:35.410 --> 00:32:37.490
in my purpose because my purpose is going to

00:32:37.490 --> 00:32:40.789
be my job. And I'll tell you what my framework

00:32:40.789 --> 00:32:45.529
is. And I call it Lisa Mind. And it stands for

00:32:45.529 --> 00:32:48.460
legacy intelligence. This and something else

00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:49.920
right now. I can't think about it. I'll tell

00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.940
you a minute. Yeah, but Lisa mine is a personality

00:32:52.940 --> 00:32:57.180
assessment For our culture because we got this

00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:00.180
you got right path. You got blooms taxonomy You

00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:03.559
have all these things and me working in LND for

00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:06.500
the last 16 years I've came across a lot of personalities

00:33:06.500 --> 00:33:11.400
and because I have facilitation, um, Analyzation

00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.819
certifications, I know right path for instance,

00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.680
I know this, I understand how it works. Let me

00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.400
build my own and let me give it to our people

00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.369
and let me show them who they are. like I know

00:33:26.369 --> 00:33:29.349
who I am. Because yeah, those tests will give

00:33:29.349 --> 00:33:32.089
you a brief synopsis of what you are, but it

00:33:32.089 --> 00:33:34.349
doesn't get to the root. It doesn't tell you

00:33:34.349 --> 00:33:37.930
how to navigate through life using yourself,

00:33:38.049 --> 00:33:40.990
how to lead with soul using your own personality

00:33:40.990 --> 00:33:44.589
type, how not to be like anyone else. I'm implementing

00:33:44.589 --> 00:33:47.230
that along with a book that I've written to go

00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:52.440
along with it called The Soft Leader. leading

00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.059
by design. But I'm getting ready to patent up

00:33:57.059 --> 00:33:59.519
the LisaMind Learning Institute. You have Dale

00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.400
Carnegie School of Learning. You have John Maxwell

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.359
Learning Institute. Well, I'm going to pilot

00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.920
the LisaMind Learning Institute. That's what's

00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.639
up. No, we need stuff that's catered to us, though,

00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:16.639
because I don't think, you know, we live in a

00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.260
world dominated by, you know, decision -makings

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:22.030
that, you know, especially when it comes to like

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:28.170
culture. I agree. And our culture being monetized

00:34:28.170 --> 00:34:31.489
so much we've been setting trends since the 40s

00:34:31.489 --> 00:34:36.710
and 50s. I agree. We continuously do so but yet

00:34:36.710 --> 00:34:40.730
we're not big partakers in those industries where

00:34:40.730 --> 00:34:42.550
you know that revenue comes through. So we need

00:34:42.550 --> 00:34:44.429
organizations like that. They're like basically

00:34:44.429 --> 00:34:48.989
who go right up for us by us. Yes. we have someone

00:34:48.989 --> 00:34:52.449
that can talk to us and we get it, we understand

00:34:52.449 --> 00:34:55.550
the lingo, we understand the nuances, we understand

00:34:55.550 --> 00:35:00.590
the micro expressions, all of those things that

00:35:00.590 --> 00:35:03.090
are very important, you know, and how we make

00:35:03.090 --> 00:35:06.050
decisions and how do we process information and

00:35:06.050 --> 00:35:08.130
make decisions as a community because it's not

00:35:08.130 --> 00:35:12.409
the same. It's not. It's really not. So all those

00:35:12.409 --> 00:35:15.570
things are important to be talked about. So yes,

00:35:15.750 --> 00:35:18.800
take the, you know, leadership of, you know,

00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:22.179
doing that and be the trailblazer for it. So

00:35:22.179 --> 00:35:25.380
I'm here for it. And I want to see you walk in

00:35:25.380 --> 00:35:28.360
that purpose and the bright light that you are

00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:35.679
as you know, that's what I saw. And I love nurturing

00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.159
people's dreams. I think a lot of times when

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.300
people talk about their dreams and ambitions,

00:35:40.780 --> 00:35:42.860
and when other people don't understand them,

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.480
they try to dismiss them and cast them to the

00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.440
side. But I'm like, no, you can't do that. One,

00:35:49.900 --> 00:35:52.380
I tell anybody, go for it, even if it sounds

00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:54.059
wacky or whatever, because you never know what's

00:35:54.059 --> 00:35:56.960
gonna happen. Until you put it out there into

00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.159
the marketplace, you don't know. And then even

00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:03.519
if it doesn't hit the goal that you wanted it

00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.199
to hit, it's just a goal. It doesn't mean that

00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:11.159
you failed. I think failure is, you know, not

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.179
trying at all. I think nothing beats a failure

00:36:14.179 --> 00:36:17.980
but a try. Exactly. So why not go out there,

00:36:17.980 --> 00:36:20.940
you know, and see what happens? Because that

00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:22.840
will inspire like you. You know what I'm saying?

00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:26.460
The wheelhouses will turn and you start producing

00:36:26.460 --> 00:36:29.179
all this stuff and then you'll look up 10, 20

00:36:29.179 --> 00:36:32.699
years from now. Exactly. You have all this, this

00:36:32.699 --> 00:36:35.679
catalog of the stuff that you've done. I will

00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.019
tell you what LISA stands for. It's Legacy Insight

00:36:39.019 --> 00:36:42.300
Structural Alignment. Legacy is honoring ancestral

00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:44.920
wisdom, cultural memory, and emotional labor,

00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:46.940
especially from our community, which is behind

00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:50.400
the system. It's the root of the system, right?

00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:53.159
The insight, the ability to see yourself clearly

00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.619
through patterns, soul intelligence, emotional

00:36:55.619 --> 00:36:58.280
honesty, self -awareness. This is your mirror.

00:36:58.429 --> 00:37:02.030
your awakening, um, structure, creating systems,

00:37:02.210 --> 00:37:04.750
tools, and rituals. That's the same growth, peace,

00:37:04.889 --> 00:37:07.670
power, and purpose. And this is your architecture

00:37:07.670 --> 00:37:10.150
and then aligning yourself with it, living, loving,

00:37:10.289 --> 00:37:12.130
leading in ways that match your truth, your timing,

00:37:12.130 --> 00:37:15.989
and your soul. That's what's up. I love it. Can't

00:37:15.989 --> 00:37:20.030
wait to see this finished product. Look, you

00:37:20.030 --> 00:37:22.530
can be a prototype. If you'd like to take the

00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:25.010
personality test, I can send you a link. Yeah,

00:37:25.010 --> 00:37:26.829
send me the link. I'll take the personality test.

00:37:27.289 --> 00:37:31.949
Okay. I love to do stuff like that. It reminds

00:37:31.949 --> 00:37:36.070
me when I was at Fort Valley, I used to go to

00:37:36.070 --> 00:37:38.690
the Career Development Center and take a test

00:37:38.690 --> 00:37:40.530
as far as like, you know, what you like and things

00:37:40.530 --> 00:37:42.690
of that nature. And I used to tell other students

00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:44.130
about it. I was like, how do you not know about

00:37:44.130 --> 00:37:46.789
this? And it was an underutilized program that

00:37:46.789 --> 00:37:49.469
was in, I think it was the Peabody, not the Peabody

00:37:49.469 --> 00:37:50.909
building, what was it? Pettigrew building? I

00:37:50.909 --> 00:37:51.869
can't remember, but it was one of the buildings

00:37:51.869 --> 00:37:55.550
on campus. And I was like, Why isn't stuff like

00:37:55.550 --> 00:37:57.409
this pushed all the time? Because you have a

00:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.030
lot of kids who will go to college, one, because

00:38:00.030 --> 00:38:03.570
their parents want them to, and they're not really

00:38:03.570 --> 00:38:06.369
going because they want to go. So then you get

00:38:06.369 --> 00:38:08.190
there, well, what are you going to major in?

00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:10.210
Or what do you like to do? And they're confused.

00:38:10.809 --> 00:38:12.710
So why not go and take these tests to show you

00:38:12.710 --> 00:38:15.150
all the areas where you have a high interest

00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:17.550
and they gave you interest one, two, and three.

00:38:18.550 --> 00:38:24.809
So you might find that you like agriculture or

00:38:24.809 --> 00:38:27.829
in archaeology or whatever. Right. And never

00:38:27.829 --> 00:38:32.730
knew it. And I'm like, these type of tests, excuse

00:38:32.730 --> 00:38:36.690
me, are needed to help with directing and guidance

00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:39.469
instead of just running people through a meal.

00:38:40.530 --> 00:38:43.710
I agree. And I wouldn't be a practitioner if

00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:47.820
I didn't try to guess your profile. So. There

00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:50.800
are 10 archetypes. And out of the 10 archetypes,

00:38:50.860 --> 00:38:53.699
I think you have the mirror, which is a reflective

00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:56.500
relation. You're reflective, relationally aware,

00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:59.480
and you hold space. I think you have the flame.

00:38:59.739 --> 00:39:03.059
You're passionate, activating emotionally and

00:39:03.059 --> 00:39:05.780
magnetic. And I also think you have the sensor,

00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:10.239
which you sense energy and pattern reading. And

00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.619
you have some architecting, you two, because

00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:15.000
you're strategic and you're structured and precision

00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.099
driven. There might be some Guardian and Curran

00:39:18.099 --> 00:39:20.940
in there somewhere, but we're gonna see. Yeah,

00:39:20.940 --> 00:39:23.579
we're gonna see. I would love to see these results.

00:39:24.139 --> 00:39:26.679
But now, I'm like, that sounds like me though,

00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.679
in so different, many aspects, even more like

00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.800
entrepreneurship. And I've been recently interviewing

00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.019
real, doing interviews with people that I've

00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:38.699
done interviews with about three, four years

00:39:38.699 --> 00:39:42.380
ago, and they're telling me, you really inspired

00:39:42.380 --> 00:39:47.389
me. And I'm like, I didn't realize the magnitude

00:39:47.389 --> 00:39:52.070
of what I was doing at the time. I just felt

00:39:52.070 --> 00:39:55.250
it in my calling to build something to bring

00:39:55.250 --> 00:39:57.730
recognition to folks that necessarily wouldn't

00:39:57.730 --> 00:40:00.750
get the recognition on bigger platforms and for

00:40:00.750 --> 00:40:04.369
people to, that to be a Kickstarter for them.

00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:09.309
Cause no one really wants, no one really does

00:40:09.309 --> 00:40:11.469
that for folks. Like I always feel like, you

00:40:11.469 --> 00:40:12.929
know what I'm saying? You're supposed to pass

00:40:12.929 --> 00:40:17.670
the baton. It's your, Duty and responsibility

00:40:17.670 --> 00:40:20.269
to pass the baton to someone else and to bring

00:40:20.269 --> 00:40:23.969
them along for the ride I'm not to like gatekeep

00:40:23.969 --> 00:40:27.610
a whole lot of stuff not to be like, you know

00:40:27.610 --> 00:40:30.670
I'll build this whatever is like I do collaboration

00:40:30.670 --> 00:40:33.130
for other podcasts I've been on other podcasts

00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:35.590
and I bring them on mine and we do like interviews

00:40:35.590 --> 00:40:38.110
swapping and stuff like that And I'm like, it's

00:40:38.110 --> 00:40:40.190
never about oh, no, I just want people to see

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:43.349
me. No, it's never been about that so I was about

00:40:43.349 --> 00:40:46.329
putting other people on because This information

00:40:46.329 --> 00:40:49.170
needs to be told. And like, I realized through

00:40:49.170 --> 00:40:52.389
podcasting, everyone has a story. Absolutely.

00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:54.809
And everyone does not get the opportunity to

00:40:54.809 --> 00:40:58.250
tell those stories. So I am always actively reaching

00:40:58.250 --> 00:41:02.909
out. But I do have a fantastic question though

00:41:02.909 --> 00:41:05.989
for you. I've been doing this. It's a little

00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:09.449
different. So since you're an author now, right?

00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:12.409
I imagine that you read other people's work.

00:41:13.539 --> 00:41:16.179
Who would be two authors from the middle Georgia

00:41:16.179 --> 00:41:25.360
area that you would like to highlight? I can't

00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.980
hear you. I'm whispering middle Georgia area.

00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:31.440
Okay, well, you know, just let's say the state

00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:38.280
of Georgia then. State of Georgia. Do you have

00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:39.900
local book clubs down there that you talk to

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:54.360
people with? I don't I don't even read I Listen

00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.960
to them. Oh, okay. I don't really know a middle

00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:04.239
Georgia author, but I know two people that I

00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.579
inspired their writing and they became an author.

00:42:06.579 --> 00:42:09.920
Okay well who are those two people? Toria Demps

00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.019
is from my hometown but she now lives in another

00:42:12.019 --> 00:42:16.800
state and Brandy Dixon is my classmate from high

00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.199
school and she now lives in another state. And

00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.699
they both started writing? Yes well Brandy has

00:42:23.699 --> 00:42:26.019
been writing but she told me that I encouraged

00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:29.159
her to pick up the pen again. So this was it

00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:30.739
so I'm gonna need their social media handles

00:42:30.739 --> 00:42:32.320
and stuff so I can reach out to them so I can

00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:38.300
get their story. Okay, I'll get you. But that's

00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:41.239
putting them on, yes, reach out to them. That's

00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.880
what's up, I love it. Is there anything that

00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:45.860
we haven't discussed that you want to talk about?

00:42:49.099 --> 00:42:52.119
I don't know, not unless you have any more questions

00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:57.360
about Russian roulette or the Napalm or any of

00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:01.599
the other things that we talked about. One, I

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.059
will encourage people to go and purchase these

00:43:04.059 --> 00:43:06.619
books, reading the samples that I've read. I

00:43:06.619 --> 00:43:08.940
was like, okay, yeah, I could see where, especially

00:43:08.940 --> 00:43:11.480
with the Russian roulette, the way you started

00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:15.539
off talking about childhood, the creaking floors,

00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.019
the, what did you say, the green and white, the

00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:23.460
house? Yes. I was like, yeah, I might have to

00:43:23.460 --> 00:43:29.440
get that. And then I was reading the black man,

00:43:30.619 --> 00:43:33.690
a novel to the black man. Um started that one.

00:43:33.769 --> 00:43:36.670
I didn't get to get into the glow a lot, but

00:43:36.670 --> 00:43:39.329
i'm like you you you have a lot of work here

00:43:39.329 --> 00:43:47.090
because someone has to digest Well, I got that

00:43:47.090 --> 00:43:50.889
it is uh, it is amazing That you've been able

00:43:50.889 --> 00:43:53.929
to just write all of this in a short amount of

00:43:53.929 --> 00:43:56.909
time I know it's that's not all that I wrote

00:43:56.909 --> 00:43:59.510
in that time. I mean, oh my goodness. I just

00:43:59.510 --> 00:44:02.739
haven't published it I feel like you got like

00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:06.400
10 albums or something all at one time. I did.

00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.860
No joke. No joke. And get this, I designed all

00:44:09.860 --> 00:44:12.260
of my book covers. Oh, wow. That's fantastic.

00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.340
Russian Roulette. That is really spot on. If

00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:18.380
you look inside. Well, I think I put Martina

00:44:18.380 --> 00:44:21.719
Hunt in that one. But in my other books, my pen

00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.699
name is Bibi Hunt. That's my nickname that my

00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:26.159
dad. Yeah, that's how I wrote down the note.

00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:28.940
I forgot all about that. So you be pinning yourself

00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:34.030
as Bibi now. Bibi E. Hunt is my pen name for

00:44:34.030 --> 00:44:40.070
my creative works, like for art and things like

00:44:40.070 --> 00:44:43.150
that, covers, digital graphics, any of those

00:44:43.150 --> 00:44:45.849
things, I'll use Bibi E. Hunt. And for writing,

00:44:46.030 --> 00:44:49.789
it's Tina Marie. I'm pulling in my inner child

00:44:49.789 --> 00:44:53.150
when I draw and when I build things like that,

00:44:53.150 --> 00:44:56.679
because I have a huge imagination. I'm calling

00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:01.019
her and I'm like, girl, let's do it. I've talked

00:45:01.019 --> 00:45:04.300
to other authors who go on to pin or assume names

00:45:04.300 --> 00:45:09.480
because of the type of material that they write.

00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:13.099
Oh, I did want to ask you about, OK, so I forgot

00:45:13.099 --> 00:45:16.000
about this. I like the business side of this

00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.219
as well. You're self publishing or what is Greenhouse?

00:45:21.420 --> 00:45:28.269
Greenhouse is Soul House. It's me. So you're

00:45:28.269 --> 00:45:31.610
your own self -publisher I am how do you like

00:45:31.610 --> 00:45:34.630
doing it or are you going to expand it because

00:45:34.630 --> 00:45:37.050
I know a girl I'm one of Robin's who runs a publishing

00:45:37.050 --> 00:45:42.250
entity oh I mean it was just I learned how to

00:45:42.250 --> 00:45:46.449
self -publish it and I was like I'm not gonna

00:45:46.449 --> 00:45:50.090
do this so That's exactly what I did Amazon has

00:45:50.090 --> 00:45:54.940
a platform called KDP where you can upload your

00:45:54.940 --> 00:45:58.820
writing and it launches straight to Amazon worldwide.

00:46:00.219 --> 00:46:03.380
And then Eagram Spark also has the same abilities

00:46:03.380 --> 00:46:07.840
where you just pay the $49 registration fee for

00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.210
each. I think, I don't know if it's for each

00:46:10.210 --> 00:46:12.309
one or not, but then that's how your books get

00:46:12.309 --> 00:46:14.670
to stores like Walmart, Barnes and Nobles, Books

00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:17.610
of Millions, Target, they distribute your books

00:46:17.610 --> 00:46:20.889
all over the world. So I'm working on Eagram

00:46:20.889 --> 00:46:22.710
Spark right now because I got to upload everything.

00:46:22.750 --> 00:46:26.269
I've just been lazy with uploading it, but once

00:46:26.269 --> 00:46:30.289
I do, then my books will be in stores. This question,

00:46:31.150 --> 00:46:34.849
have you, I don't know when you'll be on Facebook

00:46:34.849 --> 00:46:37.039
and stuff, but Have you seen that there's like

00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:41.619
a new competitor? Because I saw this one video

00:46:41.619 --> 00:46:43.340
where they say like, you know, some of the distribution

00:46:43.340 --> 00:46:47.000
platforms take out too much of money from the

00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.300
authors and this particular platform. I'm sure

00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:52.000
since I've talked about it, my phone will be

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.940
listening and then I'll see it on Facebook again.

00:46:56.099 --> 00:47:00.239
But yeah, I got to find it. But as soon as I

00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.389
find it, I was sent it to you. Apparently, this

00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:05.969
particular platform doesn't take as much and

00:47:05.969 --> 00:47:09.510
you get more of the lion's share of your work.

00:47:10.510 --> 00:47:13.510
And it's still like print on demand type as well.

00:47:14.530 --> 00:47:17.530
I like that. Jess, please share. Yeah, I might

00:47:17.530 --> 00:47:19.949
have to find it because I've seen, I might have

00:47:19.949 --> 00:47:22.130
even say it as a bookmark or something like that.

00:47:22.730 --> 00:47:25.230
But I'll have to go through and look for it and

00:47:25.230 --> 00:47:28.269
see if I can find it. But that's the thing, too.

00:47:28.949 --> 00:47:30.929
being an author is one thing, but then also self

00:47:30.929 --> 00:47:33.230
-publishing, that's another business model. So

00:47:33.230 --> 00:47:34.670
do you think you'll ever get disappointed when

00:47:34.670 --> 00:47:36.429
you publish other people up under your business?

00:47:37.070 --> 00:47:40.110
I would love to. Okay. And I don't even think

00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:42.269
about it that way. My cousin is trying to publish

00:47:42.269 --> 00:47:44.250
a book right now, and I could possibly ask her,

00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:46.030
girl, do you want me to publish that on The Soul

00:47:46.030 --> 00:47:50.210
House? See, that's the thing though, because

00:47:50.210 --> 00:47:53.909
like I said, getting, writing the book is one

00:47:53.909 --> 00:47:57.699
thing. Publishing it and putting it in to where

00:47:57.699 --> 00:48:00.760
people can find it and then being able to promote

00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.440
it. That's a whole nother business model. I mean,

00:48:03.460 --> 00:48:05.480
you're talking about distribution and sales with

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.940
that and logistics. Wow. A lot of people, again,

00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:10.639
like we were saying earlier in the conversation,

00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.320
they're good at being a creator. They're good

00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.820
at the execution. So some people need help with

00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:19.539
that. And I think we need more black publishing

00:48:19.539 --> 00:48:24.019
entities. Like Charlemagne, he has a publishing

00:48:24.019 --> 00:48:27.039
entity. where he started getting into the publishing

00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.219
game. I don't know if people know it, but first

00:48:29.219 --> 00:48:32.239
of all, that dude's a media mogul. People don't

00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.960
even realize how many tentacles he has his fingers

00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:39.000
in all these different businesses. But he has

00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.820
a publishing entity as well. And I think once

00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:45.079
he did his first best seller or his second one,

00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.460
he started a publishing entity. And that's how

00:48:48.460 --> 00:48:50.639
he's able to help people get book deals and stuff

00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.400
like that. And then also getting published, just

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:55.639
like how The Black Effect. you know this is podcast

00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.039
platform partnered with iHeart media but he controls

00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.380
it and that's how you know all those black podcasts

00:49:03.380 --> 00:49:05.900
are being put out there and you know people are

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:08.199
learning about them through the major platforms

00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.639
through the you know i'm saying that network

00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.320
so i'm like something you can consider that sounds

00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:18.639
like a good setup i'm gonna look into that um

00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:22.139
for sure because that could be a huge umbrella

00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:25.559
Because I have two names for my publishing house.

00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:27.519
I have glow house press and then I have so works

00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.739
press Then they're under the same umbrella But

00:49:31.739 --> 00:49:33.679
it depends on what type of book you're writing

00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.780
is to where the book will go under what it will

00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:40.079
go under I would love that Yeah, so then that

00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.000
also, you know another former street revenue

00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.960
inflation. I'm saying makes it bigger and Like

00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.639
I said, you've done it. So There's some people

00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.860
who just can't even get through the process And

00:49:51.860 --> 00:49:54.159
again, there's a lot of people who just like

00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:55.900
recording art, they just want to record. They

00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:57.420
don't want to have to market and promote and

00:49:57.420 --> 00:49:59.860
distribute and all that stuff. Yeah. There's

00:49:59.860 --> 00:50:03.059
a lot of authors who don't want to have to be

00:50:03.059 --> 00:50:07.079
their own publisher. I agree. Because it can

00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.320
get condescending. Not condescending, but it

00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:15.679
can be a lot of work. Especially when the formatting

00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.780
tools act up on you. You have to understand the

00:50:18.780 --> 00:50:22.739
dimensions. things that go into that. You got

00:50:22.739 --> 00:50:25.019
to know where to put your IBS in. Some people

00:50:25.019 --> 00:50:26.579
were like, what is that? And where does it go?

00:50:27.139 --> 00:50:29.239
But your book is not getting uploaded without

00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:37.599
ISBN. Exactly. So you have to know all of those

00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.340
things. I mean, and there are softwares out there

00:50:39.340 --> 00:50:41.119
that will help you put it together. Absolutely.

00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.280
But they have one person to be able to handle

00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.079
that all though. And someone you can actually

00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.650
talk to that's a human being. and who understands

00:50:49.650 --> 00:50:51.750
and can put in the terms that you understand.

00:50:52.289 --> 00:50:55.750
Exactly. That's valuable. That beats everything.

00:50:56.590 --> 00:50:59.010
Exactly. So let everybody know where they can

00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:01.809
go and find your books. And then also, you know,

00:51:02.130 --> 00:51:03.590
you want them following on social media and all

00:51:03.590 --> 00:51:08.590
that stuff. OK. So to follow me on social media,

00:51:08.889 --> 00:51:15.119
I'm sorry, my ad is Tina Marie. for my publishing

00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:18.139
works you can find me on amazon for right now

00:51:18.139 --> 00:51:22.420
and apple books and of course you have rush and

00:51:22.420 --> 00:51:26.159
roulette you have go glow and you have an apple

00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:30.320
to the black man and be on the lookout for a

00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.239
depth of the ego a soft funeral to the girl i

00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.079
used to be be on the lookout for that real soon

00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:44.010
yes what's up thank you miss tina marie body

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books off of amazon support support support support

00:51:46.550 --> 00:51:49.570
and if you are an author out there and you need

00:51:49.570 --> 00:51:52.210
someone to help you with this you now look at

00:51:52.210 --> 00:51:56.449
see look at it um you know you got somebody here

00:51:56.449 --> 00:51:59.190
you have a contact who will be able to walk you

00:51:59.190 --> 00:52:01.329
through the process and as always y 'all keep

00:52:01.329 --> 00:52:04.010
following the platform and i'm your host andreas