Standing Out, Being Different

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Our interview with Hustle Zombie was a refreshing

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look into what it really truly means to be an

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artist. Approaching music from a deeply creative

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standpoint, he isn't your typical rapper. He

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thrives on live performances, lyrical depth,

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and genuine expression. From rocking stages with

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live bands to crafting songs for other artists,

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Hustle Zombie embraces every challenge with passion

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and professionalism. Beyond his bars, his unique

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sense of style adds another layer to his artistic

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identity. making him stand out both sonically

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and visually. Tune into this episode to explore

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many depths, levels, and layers of Hustle Zombie,

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an artist who refused to fit the mold. Google

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and YouTube University is idealistically the

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best way to learn. All right, y 'all, we are

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tuning in for another episode of Bankedoutt Radio

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Show. I'm your host, Andreas, and I got another

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artist for y 'all today, Hailing from MacTown.

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Y 'all know I was down there in a good little

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minute, about 15 years or so. But yeah, we got

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Hustle Zombie online with us. What's up, man?

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I don't really know, boy. What's going on, man?

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How cool is that? Now, there's something that

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I saw where I think you got like a phrase or

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something that you say a lot. Oh, yeah. Say that

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phrase for me. I'm the hostess. I'm still still

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an hour from my next day because 24 hours ain't

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enough. I need like 30. This was a you need to

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like do that with everything that you do. I don't

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care if you do red carpet interviews, you know,

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wherever you go. have something that you know

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that is there that people can like you know remember

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you by and be like okay and they try to figure

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out like you know what you're saying so let's

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dive into it like you know you're uh uh making

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native or oh yeah man born and raised making

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georgia i don't live i lived in Atlanta and Miami

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before but i'm a straight from making georgia

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man straight from the concrete all right that's

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what's up so Tell us about your experiences,

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you know, growing up, music, what it means to

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you, because, you know, making has a huge, rich

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history of music. For sure that, for sure that,

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man. I came up, I basically, music been a part

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of me for as long as I can remember, man. Growing

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up on holidays and stuff, or just on a regular

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day waking up and hearing my mama playing music,

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you know what I'm saying, singing. On a holiday,

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my family had talent shows. I used to sing R

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&B before I'd rap, before I went through. voice

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change and all that growing up and should have

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been puberty type. But I used to sing a lot of

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R &B, so, you know what I'm saying, I always

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had a passion for music for real, and it just

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came to me to start writing music, because I

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like, around my life, ELA, you know what I'm

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saying, so I take an interest in words, so it

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just came to me to write, because nobody can

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teach me how to do it, and I just... Took off

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for nothing, I really just took off for nothing.

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Remakes of songs out here on the radio, just

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rapping, you know what I'm saying? While it's

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playing, while I'm listening to it, I'm substituting

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words in, putting my own words in, you know what

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I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I love that. Yeah, it

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kind of just came to me like that and I just

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started writing my own music. So tell us about,

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you know, what era of hip hop was like your childhood

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and then, you know, you actually getting into

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it. You know what I'm saying? Where is it? What

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can I say, man? It really, I grew like the hip

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hop, as far as the hip hop, like the music. I

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don't know, man. I wouldn't, I'm not era based,

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I don't think, because I didn't come to, in my

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generation, the music that we grew up listening

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to, the influence. Kind of like the older era,

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like the 80s. you know what I'm saying, like,

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lyrical people like Andre 3000 and the best parts

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of Eminem and you know what I'm saying, you know,

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the two parts, of course, the biggest, of course,

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you know, stuff like that, you know, Aaron B

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and Rakim, I like that, you know what I'm saying,

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like, that was a real rap to me, that's, you

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know what I'm saying, I can't make that up, the

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diplomat dips it, that boy Kam, you know, music

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like that, so, like, I really wasn't, I went

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all the way influenced by musically about what

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I grew up to. You know what I'm saying? Life

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-wise, living life -wise, it's different. I had

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a different influence, but as far as what made

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me want to do my own music, or got into it, or

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have my favorites, I didn't really want nothing

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in my era, in my generation. They were like,

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oh yeah, boy, they can do it. I can do it. Yeah,

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no, I definitely get that sometimes it happens

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like that or whatever, you know, and they say

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like, you know, the 80 90s and you know, part

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of the styles is like, you know, the great area

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of hip hop and stuff like that. And then it like,

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you know, it changed because of this banked out

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radio show and I have some deals for y 'all.

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There are some companies that I've been going

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researching, looking at the different products

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and services that I want to turn you on to. So

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go to my deals page, check them out. Any one

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of them that you want to interact with, want

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to do some business with. You'll get a promo

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discount as well when you try their product,

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Banked Out, B -A -N -K -E -D -O -U -T -T. Slide

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over to that page, check out what I have to offer,

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and let me know. defragmentizing right now. I

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think it's gonna actually in the next 10 years

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it'll be like, you know, sort of like a 1990s

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type of thing where you got this particular area,

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this particular area, this particular area, this

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particular area, and that will be hip hop. But

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we'll see, you know, that's only my prediction.

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So were there any artists in the like Macon or

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even the middle Georgia area that you saw that

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you were like, you know what, I like how they

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move. It might not necessarily like, you know

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what I'm saying. Yeah, you know get down to music

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whatever but you might have liked the impact

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that they had and stuff like that Couple groups,

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man. I like the local lifestyle, of course, me

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being from the west side of making and being

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in my family. I saw that part of it. I took a

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liking to how they go moving. They were getting

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nice attention from that. All right. So at what

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point did you feel like you okay, I'm getting

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into this, I'm doing it, but now this is going

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to be my profession and I'm gonna treat it like

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a professional. When was that switch for you?

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Oh, it's which way actually Okay, it wouldn't

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it wasn't that long ago man, it probably like

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five years ago for real man Wow, just like I

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man is this this this the way Mm -hmm just cuz

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I was doing it with a group of friends and so,

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you know, we've not started at time went on it

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wasn't moving as fast as we felt like we should

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move so I don't know, the only one that kept

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a steady head and kept on keeping on with it.

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And they became, the friends I rep with, they

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became fans. So it's like, you know what I'm

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saying? Like, not to toot my own horn, you know

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what I'm saying? But I felt like I was the best

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one in the group. Hey, you still here? So, you

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know, proof is in the pudding, ain't it? Yeah,

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for sure. I just kept head with it, man, you

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know. And when nobody can teach me, so that made

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me like it even more. I had to mold myself and

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teach myself a lot about it. So, you know what

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I'm saying? I like that I came. What's your recording

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process like? Do you go into the booth? Do you

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basically offer freestyle? Do you come fair,

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written? Yeah, man. I'm pretty much premeditated,

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man. I love being premeditated. I read on paper,

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I read in a notepad on the phone. Yeah, I like

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to write out my... artist, I like to write it

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out. You know what I'm saying? I'm more than

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just a rapper. I'm a real artist with this. I

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look at it as a piece of paper or a note on my

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phone. I look at it like a drawing board. I put

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it all together. I like to see it together before

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I actually put it out. I make sure it makes sense.

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I like to make a lot of sense when I'm doing

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music. Freestyling really ain't my f - I ain't

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to do like yeah I don't have to probably get

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ain't nothing against it but there's people who

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freestyle they can't write like I write and there's

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people who write they can't freestyle so yeah

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I'm like there's a lot of different parameters

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with all that and everything so I definitely

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get it but at the end of the day what's going

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to get played and you know what's going to keep

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the notoriety of stuff freestyle is not going

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to keep the notoriety of actual song composition

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will Fags, fags, I like substance. Yeah, they

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gonna hold you over right here. It ain't just

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a quick end and that song, you caught it, you

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knew it, and now you don't know it no more. Now,

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I like to put this shit on you. Like, my songs

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have birthdays still, you feel me? Like, every

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year, I got a song for every part of the year

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almost, you know what I'm saying? It's timeless,

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so you know that. I like substance, like real

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substance. I can't just freestyle, just off the

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top. I like to... Cause I like you more words

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than just curse words. I've been listening to

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your music. So like I said, I love that. I like

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lyrics. Exactly. I love the effects. Like I said,

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I can understand you, you got lyrics, you got

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concepts, your storytelling, and then you don't

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like fit one category of stuff. Like you diverse.

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Right. I was going through, you know what I'm

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saying? Like your performance that you did, I

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think on the debut would made it. Right. First

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of all, I want to say that one has a double form

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and I like how it was shot and how you actually

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interacted with that type of platform. Yeah,

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and y 'all already know bar. What's the sun?

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Let it do Made it my business to mind my business

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and start a business. It's getting serious. I've

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been practicing social distance. This world is

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wicked. Hope you're paying attention. We dying

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to make a living and living to make a killing.

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Just listen. Know some niggas who clutching like

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14 inches. Up to five week to quickness and change

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your life in an instant. Growing up in these

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trenches. You dying to go in a prison. Not mine.

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We on a mission. Our eyes got better. Just gonna

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see double like when you tipsy. On my way to

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the tipy. I'm taking my brothers with me. Prolifit.

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RIP Nipsey. I'm gifted. Lyric is sickening. Like

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COVID, I get to spitting with potion in it. because

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sometimes artists don't they might be really

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good at recording but they're not so good at

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you know showcasing the talent of the performance

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right right and i mean i make that that that's

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one of my biggest points of being able to perform

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my music cause all of everything that I make

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is not, all the music I make is not first catch,

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like, soon to come on and catch you. You actually,

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some of the music, like, it's better if you can

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see me, see my passion with it, or you can, you

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know, my performance with it, or, you know what

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I'm saying? Just to make it a visual versus just...

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the audio, you know what I'm saying? So I pride

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myself in that. Like that one of my pet peeves

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to make sure I perform and make sure I make everybody

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feel, everybody that's in the room with me, I

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need everybody to feel involved. You feel me?

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That's part of my performance. I'm going to put

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on a show. If you don't like the song, the show

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I put on, beat the song. So at the end of the

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day, you feel me? It's all coming together at

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once. So yeah. That's what's up. The dark difference

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between that particular song, right? And then

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also doing the song that was in the Lord Tail

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of the Blood, right? The thing I loved about

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that was you performed, I believe it was at Blueprint.

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It looked like it was in Blueprint and it was

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with a band. And not a lot of artists can perform

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with bands. So I love the fact that you said

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that, you know what I'm saying? I'm not just

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a rapper. I'm an actual artist. Real artists

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can perform with the musicians. Yeah, yeah, man.

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Yeah, it's being versatile and reaching another

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audience. You feel me? I try to make it, try

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to make something for everybody. All my music

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don't need to be for me all the time. It comes

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from me, but it don't even be for me. You feel

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me? It's to reach the audience. It's to reach

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the masses. So I can get on any level. You know

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what I'm saying? I don't feel like it's the height

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I can't reach. So how did that song come about?

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Was it a situation where like Santrell was like,

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you know what I'm saying? He's reaching out to

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everybody or somebody, Lock Dogg or whomever

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is reaching out and saying, hey, we got this,

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can you make this type of concept? Or did you

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already had a song and y 'all just enhanced it?

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The song was already done, man. It already beat.

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Okay. It was already done. And it just hit, you

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know what I'm saying? The topic, the subject

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of the song, you know, it's meaningful, you know

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what I'm saying? And it's not just... It's not

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hardcore, it's easy on the ear. You know what

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I'm saying? So it kind of fits, you know what

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I'm saying? It fits the soundtrack. He said,

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no cursing, it's a clean song. Yeah. So that's,

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you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's ready

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to make his music. It's ready to be, you know

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what I'm saying? Exactly. Yeah. That shit came

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about, man. It shots that lock down for that.

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Yeah, so was that the first time you performed

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with a band? No, actually I don't perform with

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a live band in Atlanta at a club pregame. DJ

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Cutthroat was running. I had a whole live band

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and a whole jazz band while I performed. I had

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the mic, I was doing the hosting and everything.

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So yeah, I'm pretty set up with that, man. I

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love instruments and music, so I'm gonna go with

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it. I can tell that you're really into all the

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aspects of, you know, music league, performance,

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and even like, you know, style too. Cause I love

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the fact that one of your videos you had, you

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was performing. It might've been, so I saw one

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where I think you performed at what used to be

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Jekyll's Life Center, Tiffany had over there

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in that area. and you had on like a regular hat

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and then you had another performance I was watching

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where you had like the bucket hat and it seems

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like you have this type of style about you. Oh

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yeah man I go crazy. Yeah I got my own. It's

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to my liking. I don't do things because I don't

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do everything that I do like that because I want

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to be accepted. It's just my style. I just be

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me. How did you come up with like your style

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to fit like, you know, because you're putting

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yourself out there as like a persona near the

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right to be digested by the masses. So how did

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you like come up with that to where you is like,

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you know, cool with it and it's still authentic

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to you? Because I was already, I was already

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a cool, cool person all my life, like throughout

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school. I always had the image and the persona

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to be cool, like cool. I'm very calm, I'm very,

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you know what I'm saying? Smiling, happy, go,

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you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going out

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in person, so I'm easy to talk to, I'm good with

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conversations, you know, like, listen, everything,

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so I just, just being cool, man, just being me,

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just enjoying life, and it came from, like I

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said, it came from just being in streets, rolled

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over to the music, like, it's just how I am every

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day, that's just me. It's just how I wake up.

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I don't have to wake up and put on this costume.

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This is me. I love it. Cause like I said, you

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come visually and all that, you come across very

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authentic. And I think that's like, you know

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what I'm saying? One of the things that's like

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in the category of where, you know what I'm saying?

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It's a huge checkmark for you versus a lot of

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other people where they gotta push this certain

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type of persona. And I always tell artists all

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the time, like just do you. Because that's gonna

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be accepted to you know, I'm saying whoever the

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crowd is going to be as you're building your

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fan base You don't have to like, you don't emulate

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other people and stuff like that. You can just

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be you in to be accepted for you Yeah, I peep

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other styles and stuff, you know, but I'm not

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a try to be Ole Miss to me too. Yeah, exactly.

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I'm me taking the lead. Nah, I definitely get

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that. How has the making Middle Georgia area

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accepted and embraced you? Was it a little friction

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or hesitation at first or, you know what I'm

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saying? I can say, I can say it ain't been, it

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ain't no friction, man. It ain't no friction

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or hesitation cause Like I said, I'm a people's

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person without the music. You know what I'm saying?

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Like, my group, my guys, me and the guys, like,

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we known. Like, I was popular, like, known. I

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go inside of town. I perform for any crowd. You

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know what I'm saying? I don't perform that, oh,

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98 % of the clubs around here. Ain't no stage.

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I ain't touched around here or something. I didn't

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look for the acceptance. I meant what I said.

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Like if I do what I'm doing, do what I'm doing,

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whether y 'all accept me or not. So it's still,

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you know what I'm saying, be believing in what

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I believe in. Make what people believe in. Yeah.

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I think the only place you probably got to do

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now though is you got to go to the atrium. That's

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what I got to do. Every time they have a show,

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I be like, but they ain't ready to hear me. They

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ain't ready to hear me on that microphone to

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see me on this stage. And when I feel like the

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whole city can hear me. Oh man, I'm gonna go

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crazy. Yeah, I think everyone who comes out of

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making should like, you know what I'm saying,

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make that as a goal to like hit that stage either

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before leaving the city or if you blow up, come

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back to the city and perform there. That way

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it will help cultivate like this, like, you know,

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funnel system to where, you know, local grown

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talent can be cultivated and, you know, I'm pushed,

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you know, because a lot of people come from concerts

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all over whatever to that spot, whatever, so.

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I'm trying to creep in the back door a couple

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of times. I'm trying to say, hey man, how can

00:20:00.869 --> 00:20:02.950
we get in? How can we get in? We need to be in

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that stage because I can hit that stage. Just

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trying to get in. It ain't going to happen though,

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man. It's just a matter of time before it does.

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So 2025, did you have any goals that you wanted

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to accomplish at the beginning of the year that

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you've been able to do that thus far? Or how

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do you do that process from a creative standpoint?

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is really, man, the goals I wanted, as far as

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in music, I wanted to make more, what can I say?

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I just wanted to show my artistry as growing,

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you feel me? My topics, my choice of topics,

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and you know what I'm saying, the stuff I'm talking

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about now, it's kind of changing up, so far as

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so much as what I used to, type of music I used

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to make, you feel me? I feel like my... my level

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of, you know what I'm saying, music, my style

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has graduated. So, you feel me? I should just,

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I'm trying, I'm not trying, I'm making better

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music now. Feel like I'm making better music

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and not just songs. You feel me? I'm making actual

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music, like everything ready to go, that can

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go, that can go. You know what I'm saying? Like

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that's one of my goals to actually show growth

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and, you know what I'm saying? That's what's

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up. So tell me something that, you know, because

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all artists go through, tell me something that

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you don't really care for as far as that's a

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part of the industry. To be honest, it's really

00:21:33.650 --> 00:21:38.250
the fame. I really don't care. I really don't

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care to be famous for it. Because I got a temper

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and, you know, I've been through a lot of stuff

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and it's going to. Fame is going to shake some

00:21:50.569 --> 00:21:52.369
of those, go rattle some of those buckets, you

00:21:52.369 --> 00:21:55.990
know what I'm saying? Being fame, I'm kind of

00:21:55.990 --> 00:21:58.029
confidential with my life, you know what I'm

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saying? So I don't really involve everybody with

00:22:00.390 --> 00:22:02.769
everything I got going on. You know what I'm

00:22:02.769 --> 00:22:05.289
saying? So I feel like fame, man, but I don't

00:22:05.289 --> 00:22:06.630
feel like I'm not going to be able to handle

00:22:06.630 --> 00:22:08.950
it. It's just if I could choose to do without,

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I won't be famous. I just make the money, man.

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I'll write. I'll be a writer. I don't mind being

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a writer for another artist. I'm not even...

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Just, you know what I'm saying, all heads up,

00:22:20.940 --> 00:22:23.480
a rapper. I don't have to be the rapper. You

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know what I'm saying? Because everybody can't

00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:27.859
write. You know what I'm saying? A lot of artists,

00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:33.319
a lot of singers, a lot of rappers, just in general.

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Sometimes I think, you know what I'm saying,

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people have to understand, it's like just consumers,

00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.779
that it takes a lot to produce music to the point

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to where we all feel the value in it. And that

00:22:44.259 --> 00:22:45.900
comes from a lot of different people playing

00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:52.309
different roles. Like Whitney Houston was a phenomenal

00:22:52.309 --> 00:22:56.190
singer. Couldn't write. Couldn't write, yeah.

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Shots at the baby face for most of them songs.

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Yeah, exactly. Yes, sir. We have a baby face

00:23:03.829 --> 00:23:07.150
in the choir. Smokey Robinson was a phenomenal

00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:10.910
writer. Yeah. Not a dope artist, as far as a

00:23:10.910 --> 00:23:13.950
singer and stuff. He can sing and stuff, but

00:23:13.950 --> 00:23:18.480
that was not his thing. Fantasia, dope. artists

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.940
as far as recording artists can sing. Writer,

00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:26.480
not so much. So there's, you know, there's a

00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:29.160
lot of different pieces that goes, when you put

00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:30.660
it together, you know what I'm saying? It makes

00:23:30.660 --> 00:23:32.059
this, you know what I'm saying? Bigger thing

00:23:32.059 --> 00:23:33.920
or whatever. And like writing is cool. I'm like,

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.079
I love it. You know what I'm saying? A lot of

00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.599
people can't do it. So the fact that you know

00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.640
that you can do that and you want to do that

00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.700
for others, I think that should be something

00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:44.839
well worth, you know what I'm saying? Putting

00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:46.720
some time into it, whatever, because you know.

00:23:47.309 --> 00:23:49.809
at the end of the day, just being a recording

00:23:49.809 --> 00:23:53.170
artist and rapping and stuff like that and performing,

00:23:53.369 --> 00:23:56.529
it's only just one lane of revenue stream for

00:23:56.529 --> 00:23:59.509
you anyway. And I'm like, you got all of these

00:23:59.509 --> 00:24:03.029
other different things that you can do. How do

00:24:03.029 --> 00:24:05.849
you feel like social media plays a role in like

00:24:05.849 --> 00:24:08.250
the new landscape of artistry and stuff? Do you

00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:10.170
think it really benefits artists? You think it's

00:24:10.170 --> 00:24:13.509
a hindrance, it's somewhere in between? I feel

00:24:13.509 --> 00:24:17.380
like it benefits us. not even just artists, it

00:24:17.380 --> 00:24:21.140
benefits a certain type of character. You have

00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:22.940
to be a, you have to be, I feel like you have

00:24:22.940 --> 00:24:26.299
to be a character for the social media. I'm not

00:24:26.299 --> 00:24:29.299
too much of a character. I'm a more of a realist

00:24:29.299 --> 00:24:32.619
type person. So you feel me? Like I'm not one

00:24:32.619 --> 00:24:40.039
for the, can easily like put aside what I've

00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.160
been through today, if it makes sense to get

00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:44.220
on the camera and put on, you know what I'm saying?

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Like I'm more of a realist type person. I'm not

00:24:47.259 --> 00:24:50.400
a carrot. It's hard for me to fake anything.

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You know what I'm saying? It's hard for me to

00:24:53.099 --> 00:24:57.420
fake smile. A picture of me actually smiling

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at something versus me somebody saying smile.

00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:03.440
It's going to be two different images. Exactly.

00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:08.559
No, I definitely get that. I don't feel like...

00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.079
Like I said, the internet is for certain carrot.

00:25:11.579 --> 00:25:14.650
Yeah. But it's beneficial though. It's beneficial.

00:25:14.849 --> 00:25:17.690
It makes it easier. Let me say that. It makes

00:25:17.690 --> 00:25:21.849
it easier if you're a character. So I'm not that

00:25:21.849 --> 00:25:27.170
much of a character. Social media ain't really

00:25:27.170 --> 00:25:28.950
been my blow -up platform. I'm more of an in

00:25:28.950 --> 00:25:32.529
-your -face. You feel like I'm more of a see

00:25:32.529 --> 00:25:39.309
me when you see me. That type of thinking I think

00:25:39.309 --> 00:25:44.319
will get you far just because You lay a solid

00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.940
foundation when you meet somebody, right? You

00:25:47.940 --> 00:25:50.359
get to read all the body language, the micro

00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.640
expressions and things of that nature. You get

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.279
to have a lasting impact on a person to where

00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.400
I've met people and years later they still remember

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:03.279
me because of the interaction that we had. You

00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:31.759
can't get that from social media. And I feel

00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.059
like people take a more liking to me face to

00:26:34.059 --> 00:26:36.359
face anyway whether whether they fake kicking

00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.960
it kissing my ass or just trying to get to know

00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.960
me you feel me yeah it's easier to take me face

00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.079
to face versus on internet calls like i said

00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.420
man i i have a temple sometimes you know what

00:26:47.420 --> 00:26:50.559
i'm saying like yeah everybody got tippy you

00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:52.319
know what i'm saying we are we're all human we're

00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:53.940
all human at the end of the day i ain't really

00:26:53.940 --> 00:26:55.839
got patience for a lot of the internet stuff

00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:58.859
like i'm not gonna do what somebody else might

00:26:58.859 --> 00:27:00.759
do on the internet because that's what everybody

00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:04.000
doing I don't do the TikTok dances because that's

00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.099
what everybody do. That's just not me. Exactly.

00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.559
I ain't got that against it. I don't mind somebody

00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.059
making this TikTok to my music, but me getting

00:27:11.059 --> 00:27:13.059
out and actually putting a little dance together,

00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.140
that ain't me, man. It don't fit my, you know

00:27:15.140 --> 00:27:19.140
what I'm saying? I'm kind of different, so. I

00:27:19.140 --> 00:27:22.259
definitely get that. So going into 2026, what

00:27:22.259 --> 00:27:23.900
do you want to accomplish? What are some things

00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:26.920
you want to knock off your checklist or some

00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.759
goals you want to get going? Man, I had to get

00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:34.529
my credit together. That is like one of the realest

00:27:34.529 --> 00:27:38.009
things I've ever heard. For one, that was the

00:27:38.009 --> 00:27:42.130
reason I was late for the interview. I don't

00:27:42.130 --> 00:27:47.930
get this credit to go. I'm working on me as a

00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:53.769
person. I want to be engaged with the music I

00:27:53.769 --> 00:27:57.490
need. I'm trying to have more visuals out and

00:27:57.490 --> 00:28:02.259
another complete project done. That's, you know,

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.740
that's, that's, that's what those are. Those

00:28:04.740 --> 00:28:07.819
are from fantastic goals. I love it. I love the

00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:09.619
fact that you don't say you're so down. I want

00:28:09.619 --> 00:28:11.640
to get my credit. Like we're definitely there

00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.720
alone. I got to get it together. I've been spending

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:17.099
cash money all my life. Well, most of them, you

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know what I'm saying? Yeah. Are there any people

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in the area that you're looking to collaborate

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with that you haven't done so thus far or you

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know, are there some people outside of the area

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that you're trying to collaborate with? I'm willing

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and ready to work with everybody. Even if I have

00:28:58.710 --> 00:29:01.029
worked with them before, I'm ready to work again.

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Because in this area around here in my city,

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man, if it ain't a song, I don't put people on

00:29:10.309 --> 00:29:14.430
the stage before. I don't work with them some

00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:19.319
type of way with their music. Like that's probably

00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:21.539
like 90 % of the people right here doing music

00:29:21.539 --> 00:29:25.160
like I don't gave you a platform own, you know,

00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.160
they gave you some partners probably watching

00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.640
at your studio session. I don't be in your studios.

00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:34.079
You know that like even to the DJ man. Yeah,

00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.940
let DJs borrow equipment. I don't work with plenty.

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I don't work with plenty. So it's just like I

00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:44.529
ain't sure now no work man. I don't You can't

00:29:44.529 --> 00:29:47.509
threaten me with a good time. I do this. Love

00:29:47.509 --> 00:29:50.849
it. So when you go outside the city, what is

00:29:50.849 --> 00:29:54.210
the perception of the city from other people?

00:29:55.329 --> 00:29:58.509
Oh man, I feel like we some menaces down here

00:29:58.509 --> 00:30:02.750
for real, but I don't give out that aura. Like

00:30:02.750 --> 00:30:06.549
I said, I'm a cool face. I'm a calm, you know

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what I'm saying? I got a good energy around me

00:30:09.490 --> 00:30:13.410
when I'm out and about. So you feel me? When

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I explain to people where I'm from or whatever,

00:30:15.549 --> 00:30:17.990
they might say that I'm third, but they don't

00:30:17.990 --> 00:30:19.329
get that from me. You know what I'm saying? I'm

00:30:19.329 --> 00:30:21.349
always pushing a different image. Like, well,

00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:25.509
we can run it, I know. Yeah, you know, they hustling,

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:27.029
I know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? My city

00:30:27.029 --> 00:30:29.369
has fine females in it. You know what I'm saying?

00:30:29.609 --> 00:30:31.369
Like, yeah, it's it. We get it down here too,

00:30:31.450 --> 00:30:33.650
just like they get it as well. It's crime happening

00:30:33.650 --> 00:30:35.369
there, where it's about what you shine the light

00:30:35.369 --> 00:30:37.990
on, though. Yeah, exactly. It's seen, you feel

00:30:37.990 --> 00:30:40.630
me? So I shine a light on the positivity that's

00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:42.559
going on down here in my city. Even though it's

00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.660
a lot of negative. Again, there's negative everywhere,

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but I love the fact that I think right now, making

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from and being removed from only about a year

00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:55.519
and a half now, and what I see, it's growing

00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.259
in a right direction. You got the movies like,

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you know what I'm saying? Sentra and Lock Dog,

00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:02.660
they are doing their thing as far as bringing

00:31:02.660 --> 00:31:06.279
unity throughout the city because I saw the first

00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.569
one versus the second one in the growth. and

00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:13.309
seeing how everyone is being evolved and all

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that. And so many familiar faces that I know,

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which I'm loving it. And then people are showing

00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:25.529
up and it's being consumed financially. So that

00:31:25.529 --> 00:31:28.410
way it helps build it up even more to where more

00:31:28.410 --> 00:31:31.789
people will come. I just want them to keep going

00:31:31.789 --> 00:31:34.359
and I want all the artists to keep going. and

00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:36.680
everyone to like, you know, get in where they

00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.579
fit in and, you know, and stuff like that or

00:31:38.579 --> 00:31:40.099
whatever. Cause even like Bragg's in the last

00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:44.440
couple of years has really put a stage for urban

00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.559
artists and stuff like that. And I love how they've

00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.440
been doing that. And then like the whole Guap

00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:53.000
with the Mike Clark situation, situation, you

00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.839
know, getting signed to Atlantic. Exactly. So

00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.539
I'm like, it's growing in the right direction.

00:31:59.579 --> 00:32:01.839
I just wanted to keep multiplying and amplifying

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and stuff like that. But I want everybody to

00:32:05.769 --> 00:32:07.630
know, you know what I'm saying? How can they

00:32:07.630 --> 00:32:09.549
get in contact with Hustle Zombie? They want

00:32:09.549 --> 00:32:11.869
to listen to your music, stuff I did. If they

00:32:11.869 --> 00:32:13.430
want to collab, they want to work, things of

00:32:13.430 --> 00:32:15.609
that nature. All you got to do is look me up.

00:32:15.789 --> 00:32:19.930
Do not search me. Look me up at Hustle Zombie.

00:32:20.950 --> 00:32:24.390
Hustle on this call zombie on Instagram. I am

00:32:24.390 --> 00:32:27.670
the big zombie on Facebook, man, and in your

00:32:27.670 --> 00:32:31.049
Google tab. Hustle zombie, I'm gonna be the only

00:32:31.049 --> 00:32:33.029
one to pop up. Guarantee you, it's not another

00:32:33.029 --> 00:32:36.049
one. You feel me? I'm the only one standing up,

00:32:36.089 --> 00:32:38.210
standing out, running neck and neck. 20 bars

00:32:38.210 --> 00:32:41.829
ain't enough. I need like 38. You feel me? I

00:32:41.829 --> 00:32:44.869
love it, I love it, I love it. Well, thank you

00:32:44.869 --> 00:32:46.130
for, you know what I'm saying, doing this interview.

00:32:46.289 --> 00:32:48.490
I appreciate it and everything. Y 'all go and

00:32:48.490 --> 00:32:51.769
support, find the music. Like you said, you can

00:32:51.769 --> 00:32:55.519
look them up. You can Google my real name, man.

00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:58.279
My album gonna pop up. You can type in Antonio

00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.200
Davis and it gonna pop up, Hustle Zombie. Anywhere,

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no doubt.