OSA Man: Built by Culture, Tested by the Industry

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We tune in for another episode of Baked Out Radio

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Show. I'm your host Andres and this is the Music

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and Business Talk and we have our special guest

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today. Also, man, which I try to get y 'all to

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understand it when your own social media use

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it for networking. So another interview that

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come through networking opportunities. Also,

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I mean, you said earlier, you know, you're in

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the Atlanta area now, right next to Atlanta.

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Yeah. You've been here for like, no sign. There's

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too much traffic over there. Actually, it's too

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much traffic everywhere. Everywhere, bro. I ain't

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getting no I20. Man, 20 is the worst. Yeah, it

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is. From Panola Road every morning, from Turner

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Hill to Evansville, Panola, forget about it.

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All that rush hour traffic, it's just staying

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still for like 30 minutes. Yes, I was on Panola

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Road the other day, and I was like, this pair

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of the weekend, I was like, oh, god. I just,

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hey, I've never really liked the Metro Atlanta

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area, because I felt like, you know what I'm

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saying, it was just too many people. just concentrated

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in the area and you can't really move. And like

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I was going down, it was two weeks ago when I

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was coming back, because I go back between Dallas

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and Jonesboro a lot. And I was coming up 20,

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there was a semi truck that had caught on fire.

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And if you're going ahead of 20 East, you would

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sit in there dead locked in traffic. I know for

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at least four or five hours because they still

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had the fire truck spraying it. out there, put

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it out. And I was like, it's just horrible. I

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see a lot of people like to stay outside of the

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perimeter of 285, don't like to go inside. Like

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there's people I've talked to like, even that

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though, even that what you're talking, that sound,

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it sounded like it might have been right on the

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outside. Like soon as you start getting outside,

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proven by Western Chapel. And it was like right

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before you get to sit flags. Oh, you talking

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about you on the West side? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. So I was going to Dallas. I was coming

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back to Dallas, but I was coming from Jones girl.

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So, you know, yeah. Well, yeah. I hit 75 came

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up 20, you know, that's like quickest way to

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get here, unless you want to just go through

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Marietta or go through Douglasville, which takes

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way longer. But yeah, it's always traffic. But

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you've been here. Yeah. Like you said, you put

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out when I love the fact when artists put out

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so many projects, right? because that tells me

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that you actually really love what you do. Yeah,

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I love it. Exactly. And you're not doing it like

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some, I think now it's shifted to where some

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people use it as a platform for other things

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and not not doing it for the love. She's taken

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me on the Shabbat morning. My mother had a pottery

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class. It was like, oh, that was how Kingston

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they would know. Like I said, I left for a little

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bit like a child like seven. It was a performing

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arts. theater school um that's the main one in

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jamaican my mother did like a pottery class there

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so she would be there in the morning i think

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she had me like doing drawing and stuff so even

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later on when i was in uh when i went to miami

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killing i was i had to go to university of miami

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on like certain times and i did another art school

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like an art class with uh I don't know if they're

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all college people, it was just weird. My mom

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always just found funny stuff for me to do in

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terms of art. I started playing piano in Jamaica

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when I was like three years old because of that.

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Just because of drawing and then, oh, what's

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art? Art is called drawing and painting, but

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I'm already can draw. And a lot of my, I was

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just here, I could draw well. And what else is

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art? Oh, music is art. So then you know and um,

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I don't remember if there was already a piano

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in my house But I just remember there have been

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a panel by the time I was like three or four

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for sure And I'll be taking piano lessons because

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I started piano at three I believe three or four

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So then I went on to guitar for a little bit

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like seventh grade So all types of genre and

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I'll start one play guitar Because I liked I

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started like a classical rock for a while I Didn't

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want me going to private school in junior high.

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Yeah, so I At the time and you know, I was hated

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it because I got the news ring summertime in

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Jamaica Oh, you're not going to public school.

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You're not going to a vitamin. You're going to

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Westminster Christine. I was like what? It made

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no sense. It's like it's gonna drive me like

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our out of our community To go to some white

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people school some Christine school Yeah, it's

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America and everything is there. You know there

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means expensive Everything there and you want

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to run up the money you have to drive up there

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and I found out Okay, I was just weird. There's

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another boy. There's a Cuban named George and

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George is also going there So me and George's

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mom and my mother worked out for us to like carpool

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there. She would drive She would pick up George

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and drive me in the morning and George's mother

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would pick me up in the evenings. And it turned

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out and going to school for that one year that

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I made basketball team. I tell people all this

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time I was fortunate enough to work out with

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Alex Rodriguez in that small ass gym at Westminster

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Christian School. Okay. Because Westminster had

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an elementary school, they had a middle school

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and they had a high school. Yeah, very small

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thing. I see I've gotten trouble for something

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I wanted to get into and when my punishment I

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got trouble by the baseball coach I made me and

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this um the other boy I got trouble with Sit

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there for the baseball team and catch fly balls

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Mm -hmm, so I was there catching fly balls for

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a rod and his team He started blowing up in 92

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so I was broke out not bugged out cause I tell

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the story for my family and my picnic and everything

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here all the time and people I meet. So I was

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like, yup, there goes my high school, it's all

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HBO. Alex versus A -Rod. So I was like, yeah,

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I was like, yeah, so that's the one thing. But

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there I got more to computers and I did excellent

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in art class. I worked with Mr. Christine still,

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but their music, I had a, had a um another Spanish

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friend wasn't George named Oscar and Oscar put

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me on to one of the best things in my life and

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I didn't know exist when I was 11 12 years old

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he put me on something called classical rock

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and Westminster Christian and I found out about

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Jimi Hendrix I found out about the who I found

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out about the Grateful Dead found out about the

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doors I found out about Um, Alice, uh, Janice

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Joplin with airplane. I found about, I mean,

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Jefferson airplane and then Jefferson Starship.

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I found out about a larger world of me, of course,

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the Beatles. So Oscar introduced me to the Beatles,

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just a little walk. So that was one of the, that's

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how you know, I like, I don't love me. Yeah.

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See, I'm saying Led Zeppelin. I'm so thankful,

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Oscar, man. Let's, because that's the whole thing

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again with Diddy. that Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin,

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album number four is where he says that da -na

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-na, da -na -na, da -na -na. And that guy talked

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about how wack did he was and couldn't do the

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bars, how he wrote it. And I was like, that's

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crazy because I told my wife when I was a freshman

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at High Point University and I was in a rap group

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called Ill Squad. And I heard, I knew that beat

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from again, Oscar, my seventh group. By the time

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I went back to, I buy the middle being around

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a lot more black people and you know my community

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shit like that And white people and not so much

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just all white and it's like I was one of them

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in my All junior high was just me one of the

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black guy. We're both contemporary his mom was

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white um but Going back to there. Then I got

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back in the hip -hop You know my first that's

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when I still went to Westminster Christian. My

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first tape was das effects. I made daddy buy

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um stop Driving off of South DC highway. So that's

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what I'm saying. That's how it's like me and

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music. It's a broad spectrum Yeah, so like when

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I say rip up So some of my music I have like

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a song called um One of my songs my daughter

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used to like and it's um It's Kind of not really

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banking. I'm trying to fit. It's called life

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of choose I've been waiting for you The whole

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different type like this is weird and then I

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rap in the end of it and then I come back in

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with that weird like kind of falsetto chilling

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I don't have that type of sound where it's like

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I'm kind of mimicking that That sound you hear

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when they just signed TV off. You remember that?

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Star Spangled Banner. I do a lot of stuff from

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like 5th, 4th, 5th grade. I used to be known

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as like a sound effects kid. And Josh, like Josh

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Martin used to love that shit. I used to run

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around to make a lot of sound effects. But I

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was always disturbing the disruptive in class.

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he was more cool with me because he was a black

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usher from my Baptist church I went to. I didn't

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have a harder time in fifth grade at Devon Air

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Elementary because I had a teacher who and he

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also knew I was on the usher board at the church

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and he was an usher. But like sixth grade I had

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to still kind of pipe down. So he's always be

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known for sound effects. And then that next year

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when I went to West groups Christian, like I

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said, I found classic rock. I always loved music

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though. third base you know um Brian Adams you

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remember I think you're my age remember that

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Brian Adams song that was like crazy for that

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Kevin Costner Robin Hood movie you know the one

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that talk or if you remember that one I will

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always love you by Brian Adams oh yeah yeah how

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huge that record was remember that record yeah

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like Michael Bolton days and uh yes George Michael

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yes Yeah, they're huge. I love music, CNC music.

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Yeah. So, like, your love for music is there

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to put your stuff out, like, to create music

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and stuff, right, and put out albums and everything.

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How was that for you? Or, like, why did you want

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to do it at that particular level? Like I said,

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it's just, like, that love for music and then

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the visual. I think it's like two things with

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me. I know the visual you have to have it, but

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to me it's the love for music. I started realizing

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I started writing music, like on and off probably

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since I was like 14, 15, little silly stuff,

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but took it a little bit more serious when I

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went to HPU in North Kacalac. And then I was

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just trying to have these books, man, like pads

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and pads. So when my daughter was born, I was

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like, man, fuck this shit. I'm gonna start recording

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this music professionally. I went to school.

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I got a batch of science and communications from

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FIU. So you know the internet. Like I said, I

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worked at a television station. I've been around

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the arts. I've been, like one of my favorite

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stories was me smoking a blunt with, y 'all bless

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his family, who's gang star. from, I mean, Guru

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from Gangstar. Yeah. Premier wasn't there, but

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I hung out with him and he, of course, he was

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like, you know, I'm Jamaican like, come on, man.

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You know, send me, watch that show. You and Rachel

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from Caribbean Ruddings. I mean, no, so yeah,

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Jamaican. That was my thing. And we were there.

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We were there to see Nas at Club Mansion on South

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Beach. Yeah. We were in the time he had to beef

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with Jay -Z for each album. I was there covering

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and I was there with a producer. We're on the

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third floor. Nas is not coming all the way up

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there for this rider and all this food. But all

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these people, Nas is a short man. You see how

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difficult it was for me to get up here with this

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camera? I was telling her we need to be down

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there. I left my producer upstairs with the $75

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,000 Beta cameras. I've been around artists have

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been around the entertainment industry. I did

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that for like five years Like I met Kelly price

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when she just got married. That's all that big

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-ass Rock. Oh Actually, I was telling my homeboy

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this my all my homeboys cousin who's one of my

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producers the pharmacist How I missed out seeing

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to okay, and Jeanine is still mad at you for

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making me leave that concert Kelly price To K

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was a closer I want to say it was Anthony Hamilton

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who opened. Oh wow. When I seen him at that Diddy

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Block party with Jada Kiss, with that Y song

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like a year or two later, I had already seen

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Anthony Hamilton. So it was Anthony Hamilton,

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Kelly Price and T .O .K. That was a bill. And

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she got her Kelly Price interview, Anthony Hamilton,

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and she was done because she's Black America

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and no care about no reggae. Meanwhile, it's

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the T .O .K. They were going the fuck off and

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I'm walking out the camera mad as hell. God damn.

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See, like, folks I know from Killian and shit

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in South Ridge, who I went and got their high

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school with, they about to turn the fuck up.

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Yeah. I'm still telling the story. I was so mad

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at shit. I was telling the pharmacy. He was like,

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yo, I know Alex. You want to call Alex? He's

00:14:43.830 --> 00:14:47.309
a guy who's always, you and I, he's the one who

00:14:47.309 --> 00:14:49.549
does that singing. I don't know if you know two

00:14:49.549 --> 00:14:52.210
or K. He's a singer in there. he does he's the

00:14:52.210 --> 00:14:56.129
one that make all the girls go crazy yeah with

00:14:56.129 --> 00:14:59.629
that song you the song about the boy getting

00:14:59.629 --> 00:15:03.590
killed and his mom is left when you cry I cry

00:15:03.590 --> 00:15:10.669
yeah I cry that's Alex but anyway so farmer you

00:15:10.669 --> 00:15:13.409
know Jason saying oh I could he was like yeah

00:15:13.409 --> 00:15:15.759
look he just called me he was like You want me

00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:17.659
to give me a song? I was like, no. He's working

00:15:17.659 --> 00:15:19.519
on his album. I was like, if anything, get me

00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:23.000
Buro Bantan. I don't want Alex. He has a deep

00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.159
baritone voice. I can't do nothing with Alex.

00:15:26.019 --> 00:15:28.100
Yeah. Give me Buro Bantan. I got a song I want

00:15:28.100 --> 00:15:31.539
called Tobaran Tob, Tobaran Tob, Tobaran Tob,

00:15:31.700 --> 00:15:34.779
when we touch on the road. That's like Buro Bantan.

00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:36.879
When he does ba -da -dan -ba -d, ba -da -dan

00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.340
-ba -d from way back then when we bust the shot

00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:41.659
of a Spangler on, he said, him come out, the

00:15:41.659 --> 00:15:45.049
first man come out from studio on. When I heard

00:15:45.049 --> 00:15:48.129
that, that's another reason why I fell in love.

00:15:48.730 --> 00:15:50.850
When I was playing under the mango trees in Jamaica,

00:15:51.049 --> 00:15:53.730
it was like five years old in my backyard. And

00:15:53.730 --> 00:15:57.870
we had like, the helpers and cooking dinner and

00:15:57.870 --> 00:15:59.269
stuff like that. Come on man, that was probably

00:15:59.269 --> 00:16:02.769
gone. We had a helper called Don. He was like

00:16:02.769 --> 00:16:04.629
nanny. The helper was like, how you say nanny

00:16:04.629 --> 00:16:09.450
in a, if y 'all talk like Yankee. And she would

00:16:09.450 --> 00:16:11.840
just have the radio going on. So I was in Garnet

00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:13.980
Silk. That's another reason I love music. I grew

00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:17.120
up in the 80s and you make it. But music was

00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.379
tough. Garnet Silk will come out like on a way

00:16:21.379 --> 00:16:26.120
to... I'm on a way to Zion and just that whole

00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.460
album that Garnet Silk had before he, unfortunately,

00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:35.100
you know, was killed. But Boro Bonta, when I

00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:37.539
heard him as a little boy, I was playing in the

00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:43.340
dirt. I was like that she was like whoa it's

00:16:43.340 --> 00:16:47.519
just like that in the essence also to me before

00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.419
I met Oscar that's what made me fall in love

00:16:49.419 --> 00:16:52.580
with what's called dancehall reggae music. Another

00:16:52.580 --> 00:16:55.720
song which is the old I joke and tell people

00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.279
this is before I went to Kent's concert come

00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:00.240
and just sit there I'm gonna take my wife up

00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:04.680
a sit there I'm gonna be bridging. I'm a soca

00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.160
artist named Kez. Never heard of Open for Barris.

00:17:08.299 --> 00:17:11.539
And now I have two songs from Kez I like. Like

00:17:11.539 --> 00:17:13.940
four soca songs out there, like, other than that,

00:17:14.019 --> 00:17:20.259
I hate soca music. That's weird, right? I'm gonna

00:17:20.259 --> 00:17:23.000
tell you something about music. But here's one

00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:26.220
genre I'll admit that I hate, aside from four

00:17:26.220 --> 00:17:31.799
songs. First one I ever loved, I'm like six years

00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:37.700
old don't know don't know he went in I'm here

00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:40.599
something called ten cent five cent one cent

00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:44.420
dollar. Mm -hmm One set five cents at dollar.

00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:49.000
Sorry dollar wide One cent five cents ten set

00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.660
dollar and I start I pick up cuz he's so instructional

00:17:52.660 --> 00:17:54.980
in the in what you're supposed to do and again

00:17:54.980 --> 00:17:59.460
It's like Israel, you know us being this real

00:17:59.900 --> 00:18:02.660
Chosen people written out in the scriptures Mm

00:18:02.660 --> 00:18:05.240
-hmm call and response because that's how that's

00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:09.400
how Masha or Moses talked to the people Mm -hmm

00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.400
and Aaron and Aaron was really where we get all

00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:14.619
the music from because Aaron was a priesthood

00:18:14.619 --> 00:18:17.519
and That's where all those Psalms from David

00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:19.960
all those things are those are musicians talking

00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:23.480
Mm -hmm. So the call and response is one of the

00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:25.400
biggest things you know a lot of big records.

00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:33.640
It's calling response Yeah met Right. It's called

00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:38.539
a response with that type of energy. Um and so

00:18:38.539 --> 00:18:40.819
this was five cents and he was so instructional.

00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:42.759
I figured out what he was saying. He's like,

00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.940
I need to hit my pelvis to the front when he

00:18:44.940 --> 00:18:47.920
says one set, throw my hips to the left when

00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.519
he says five set, throw my hips to the right

00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:54.259
when he says 10 set and throw my butt back when

00:18:54.259 --> 00:18:57.759
he says a dollar. And I figured it out, and I

00:18:57.759 --> 00:18:59.859
was doing this little dance, and my dad was looking

00:18:59.859 --> 00:19:02.960
at me, driving in his old yellow Lada we used

00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.519
to have, one yellow Lada, um, oh, let me call

00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:09.059
it, Steershine Wagon, Lada, like I want to rush

00:19:09.059 --> 00:19:13.180
on the vehicle. And, um, my dad just started

00:19:13.180 --> 00:19:15.539
laughing, I was just, I could give him, entertain

00:19:15.539 --> 00:19:18.680
my dad, and with the music that was on. So sometimes

00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.859
just the joy that you bring other family members

00:19:21.859 --> 00:19:26.400
when you feel joy. I think what engulfed me into

00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.039
always having the love of music in my back back

00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:33.480
on my head So tell us about some successes that

00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:36.079
you've had you know during your career is like

00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:37.900
putting out this music, you know cultivating

00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:40.819
a fan base What have you been able to achieve

00:19:40.819 --> 00:19:45.819
over the years? Okay So before that I want to

00:19:45.819 --> 00:19:49.400
say treat it to the bone is one of the second

00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:52.180
other Soka songs are like so, you know two out

00:19:52.180 --> 00:19:55.700
of four percent. Yeah, so and I can say the other

00:19:55.700 --> 00:20:01.380
two are from Kes So, um just honestly the fight

00:20:01.380 --> 00:20:04.420
that I had When I say one of the most successes

00:20:04.420 --> 00:20:08.140
now is being in charge of my own publishing Okay,

00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.160
I got away from this copyright and I have the

00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:16.279
publishing and all my stuff that I put out on

00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:19.759
my music I remember working in film Pan -Atlantic

00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.519
work for other people with my entertainment company,

00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.160
you know, which is Lionheart Entertainment means

00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:31.559
Lionheart in Hebrew. So it's R -E -A -Leb Entertainment

00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:38.099
and basically when I was working and doing film

00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:42.660
for other people like early like early 2010 2011

00:20:43.509 --> 00:20:46.250
Saw a Hebrew arts and he had this P on it. So

00:20:46.250 --> 00:20:48.029
I was like damn. He ain't got a C on his music

00:20:48.029 --> 00:20:51.670
on YouTube. He had a P Mm -hmm. I think I was

00:20:51.670 --> 00:20:54.930
always just been a student of all paperwork aspects

00:20:54.930 --> 00:20:58.150
I might even like sent him a discussion or chat

00:20:58.150 --> 00:21:00.230
and just ask him. Hey, how do you get that P?

00:21:00.349 --> 00:21:02.910
How did you get your publishing? Just not even

00:21:02.910 --> 00:21:06.170
thinking about music. Um, I was like I said 2011

00:21:06.170 --> 00:21:10.630
I started music profession 2014 When signing

00:21:10.630 --> 00:21:14.910
up with CD, baby apparently CD baby song trust

00:21:14.910 --> 00:21:18.529
or a partnership. So they tell you when you,

00:21:18.569 --> 00:21:21.589
when you get into the music, you need to get

00:21:21.589 --> 00:21:23.990
your copyright, but then you need to get registered

00:21:23.990 --> 00:21:28.309
with a, with a PRL, EMI or ASCAP. And I chose

00:21:28.309 --> 00:21:30.410
ASCAP cause I know I'm a writer and I'm a producer.

00:21:30.569 --> 00:21:33.730
Like I said, I was, I was doing film or I transferred

00:21:33.730 --> 00:21:36.809
into really just music solely. So I was like,

00:21:36.930 --> 00:21:42.009
um, let me choose ASCAP, but let me, And one

00:21:42.009 --> 00:21:44.089
of the things was CD Baby got me in because I

00:21:44.089 --> 00:21:47.210
didn't have to then go and sign up for ASCAP

00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:51.509
and pay that ASCAP fee entry fee. Once I did

00:21:51.509 --> 00:21:53.950
with CD Baby for that my one my first single

00:21:53.950 --> 00:22:00.089
call heart attack in 2014 I was able to just

00:22:00.089 --> 00:22:03.609
get a few months later got my ASCAP card with

00:22:03.609 --> 00:22:08.349
a member number That was an early win, right?

00:22:09.089 --> 00:22:14.289
Mm -hmm that win Created a headache that I didn't

00:22:14.289 --> 00:22:18.190
I didn't learn about to maybe like 2019 2018

00:22:18.190 --> 00:22:22.690
I ask questions Okay, I see you I'm getting you

00:22:22.690 --> 00:22:25.670
know some money from you guys I get paid from

00:22:25.670 --> 00:22:28.369
you guys for streaming and stuff like that, but

00:22:28.369 --> 00:22:31.849
then where's my stuff from ASCAP Mm -hmm, and

00:22:31.849 --> 00:22:33.529
then they say from ASCAP you're supposed to go

00:22:33.529 --> 00:22:38.250
to the MCL Right and then from MCL you go to

00:22:38.250 --> 00:22:41.920
song trust last Mm -hmm. I know in CD babies

00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:43.740
already connected the song trip. They are to

00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:46.940
connect it to the finish line. They don't want

00:22:46.940 --> 00:22:50.119
you to know that Yeah, it's information for the

00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:55.880
second step To get money from ASCAP So one one

00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.220
of the wins I had that's all I share with Boone

00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:02.740
Like one of my arm my day ones here in Atlanta

00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:07.019
and he's a rapper Um, and he's I'm he's starting

00:23:07.019 --> 00:23:10.359
his own record label He's called son of a records.

00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:13.839
He's dope. He's a dope rapper. He's got He's

00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:16.819
got some dope rappers got dope producers But

00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:19.420
I'm teaching him not to make this mistake. So

00:23:19.420 --> 00:23:22.880
now I'm with I'm a distro kid now Yeah, I have

00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:29.460
to go on a fuck CD baby campaign I taught me

00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:33.960
I said street is it me? Lily hashtag fuck CD,

00:23:34.059 --> 00:23:38.339
baby And after I did it some years later other

00:23:38.339 --> 00:23:42.079
people have joined the hashtag When them find

00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:46.000
out There's a white is a young white lady Who

00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.140
goes through it and she said this shit is terrible?

00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.180
Well folks were collecting a hundred percent

00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:55.859
of my publishing I Didn't get paid ship from

00:23:55.859 --> 00:24:03.059
2014 to 2019 I kept on asking them that's five

00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:06.349
years of Money and then of course they talk about

00:24:06.349 --> 00:24:08.529
that black box. Oh, if you don't get your money

00:24:08.529 --> 00:24:11.029
as artists. It's going to drink and Tyler Taylor

00:24:11.029 --> 00:24:15.450
Swift It's a black box. So all that shit is really

00:24:15.450 --> 00:24:17.329
bullshit. They were super scary But I don't know

00:24:17.329 --> 00:24:20.490
because they got me for five years. Yeah as a

00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:24.309
writer Yeah, they got me. I think you know to

00:24:24.309 --> 00:24:26.390
inquiries to do the same thing because when I

00:24:26.390 --> 00:24:29.779
released projects and I had already set up my

00:24:29.779 --> 00:24:32.420
ASCAP prior to that. I had the publishing site

00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:35.680
and the songwriting site. And when I started,

00:24:35.859 --> 00:24:37.940
I did two projects with them where I let them

00:24:37.940 --> 00:24:40.380
be the distributor. And I saw where they were

00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:42.640
doing publishing administration rights and, you

00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.180
know, collecting that for you because, you know,

00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:46.400
you would have to do it yourself. Right. So when

00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:48.119
I signed up, they sent me an email. I was like,

00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:49.960
oh, we didn't, we wasn't aware that you had your

00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:52.980
own publishing entity. I was like, hmm. So it

00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:54.779
was like, send us a letter of direction to LOD.

00:24:55.669 --> 00:24:57.309
And, you know, I did that or whatever. And of

00:24:57.309 --> 00:24:58.930
course, they have to send me my statements along

00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:02.269
with the payout and all that. But I was actually

00:25:02.269 --> 00:25:05.410
at a music conference in Nashville a couple of

00:25:05.410 --> 00:25:08.329
years back where I was in a publishing room with

00:25:08.329 --> 00:25:11.430
someone with ASCAP, a representative. And I was

00:25:11.430 --> 00:25:13.190
talking to them and asking them questions about

00:25:13.190 --> 00:25:15.150
that. He was like, yeah, I really like them,

00:25:15.509 --> 00:25:19.730
you know, because of situations like that. And

00:25:19.730 --> 00:25:22.829
I'm like, It's about like learning the business

00:25:22.829 --> 00:25:25.009
side of the music. And that's what I've always

00:25:25.009 --> 00:25:31.190
done since jumping in since 2005. Like I used

00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:34.369
to buy books, read articles, magazines, all that

00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:37.410
stuff. Anything I can get my hands on that pertain

00:25:37.410 --> 00:25:41.029
to the music business side. And all these different

00:25:41.029 --> 00:25:44.009
sources of information would say the same thing.

00:25:44.509 --> 00:25:46.849
You know, learn the business side, make sure

00:25:46.849 --> 00:25:51.099
you keep publishing, you know, understand. money

00:25:51.099 --> 00:25:53.940
is made and now even with the whole streaming

00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:56.440
aspect like there's a lot of artists who don't

00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.019
do uh sound exchange and i'm like yeah they're

00:26:00.019 --> 00:26:02.019
missing out on money because my first sound exchange

00:26:02.019 --> 00:26:06.160
check came of when i get that check it was back

00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.039
in 2014 or something like that um where i had

00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:14.740
a song that made it to brazil and they used it

00:26:14.740 --> 00:26:17.920
and so they of course because i own the copyright

00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.700
as well They had to send me money for that plus

00:26:20.700 --> 00:26:23.259
using the song. So it was all in one statement

00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:25.339
check and I'm going to the mailbox and there's

00:26:25.339 --> 00:26:28.180
money just sitting there. It's interesting you

00:26:28.180 --> 00:26:29.680
said because me and you I might have to pick

00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.700
your brain or some of that music side on um because

00:26:32.700 --> 00:26:35.359
I still that was one of the things that kept

00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.319
on bringing up the CD baby. It was ASCAP and

00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.960
Sound Exchange. I still haven't really got like

00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:43.900
a straight up here. This is from Sound Exchange.

00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:46.759
A check like how you said a paper check in the

00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.119
middle or anything like that. Haven't got that

00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.140
and I have a song running in Brazil that talk

00:26:53.140 --> 00:26:55.839
about love and that start running in Brazil on

00:26:55.839 --> 00:27:00.119
a radio station Small FM station, but they said

00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.200
they show me like how to claim my royalties But

00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.680
I and I thought MCL will do it, but oddly enough

00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:14.099
MCL won't Yeah, and when it comes to international

00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:17.759
those are different royalties because like You

00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.740
can get paid performance royalties internationally

00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:22.640
and still get paid mechanical royalties as well

00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.519
if you're out the same person United States you

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.240
can't get paid performance royalties because

00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.539
it's illegal They only pay songwriting mechanical

00:27:30.539 --> 00:27:33.400
royalties when it's played on terrestrial radio

00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.079
now when it's interactive like let's say Pandora

00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:43.119
or title or Somewhere where you know is streaming

00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.960
from a it's not terrestrial is digital But it's

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:51.140
also interactive or non -interactive. Those are

00:27:51.140 --> 00:27:54.319
all collected by either your PRO or by sound

00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:58.579
exchange. And like I said, because you produce

00:27:58.579 --> 00:27:59.940
your own music and you write your own music,

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:01.900
whatever, you're also your own copyright holder

00:28:01.900 --> 00:28:04.799
as well. So you're the master. That's where the

00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:09.180
master recording is being generated money off

00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:10.799
of those type of platforms. So you should be

00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:18.109
getting those checks too. Right. I'm still cracking

00:28:18.109 --> 00:28:21.549
the code because I was able to get a nice arm.

00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:24.390
Basically, you know, still just answering that

00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:28.230
question because it was a dog going ham for some

00:28:28.230 --> 00:28:32.170
reason. It was still a loaded question. It was

00:28:32.170 --> 00:28:40.930
in, come here Woody. Come here. Sit. So basically

00:28:40.930 --> 00:28:49.140
Woody. Stop it. They're doing an interview Yeah,

00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:54.720
so Around around November of last year I was

00:28:54.720 --> 00:29:00.480
able to Get some back page like I said all the

00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:05.420
way from 2019 With my ass cap then I thought

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:08.220
that was a win and I just found out that because

00:29:08.220 --> 00:29:10.799
now I'll start getting stuff from you know from

00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.980
last November I Almost a year. Yeah over a year

00:29:13.980 --> 00:29:18.559
now And it's like every month. I'm like, okay

00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.140
This is different then now I found out I could

00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:24.359
also get the publishing so I have to register

00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:26.839
for ask on the publishing side, which is obviously,

00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:32.200
you know, they had So the sound sound exchanges

00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.220
and next the next one I want to figure that out

00:29:35.220 --> 00:29:38.299
and then Whatever thing this these people had

00:29:38.299 --> 00:29:41.940
in Brazil but um You seem to definitely know

00:29:41.940 --> 00:29:43.940
your stuff because the fact you said you were

00:29:43.940 --> 00:29:46.680
getting stuff when I started the recording in

00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:50.259
2014 and we was happy with that. Obviously, I

00:29:50.259 --> 00:29:52.359
know you're doing well for yourself as well.

00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.859
It's always good to see you know. You know with

00:29:55.859 --> 00:29:57.819
me doing music, I just want to do it just to

00:29:57.819 --> 00:29:59.640
show artists because I have a love for music

00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.380
as well just like you but I always want to do

00:30:01.380 --> 00:30:03.960
like the executive side. But because I was working

00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.119
with artists at the time, like I signed artists

00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:10.200
to Independent Label and was helping them But

00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:13.420
due to their own circumstances, we never it didn't

00:30:13.420 --> 00:30:15.619
materialize into putting anything out commercially

00:30:15.619 --> 00:30:18.559
Because they allowed their personal life to disrupt

00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.420
their professional life So I was like, I can't

00:30:21.420 --> 00:30:24.339
we're spending all this money on recording and

00:30:24.339 --> 00:30:26.339
you know mixing the mash and stuff like their

00:30:26.339 --> 00:30:29.720
photo shoots and before about the drop projects

00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.140
Like the one artist I signed was a rapper. He

00:30:33.140 --> 00:30:34.480
was like, you know, he just didn't feel it anymore

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.359
very talented But I get it the other one with

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.200
a singer and she just had So much going on with

00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:42.660
her personal life that you know, she couldn't

00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:45.059
focus. So I started doing stuff myself and I

00:30:45.059 --> 00:30:48.700
went through the entire process any coding making

00:30:48.700 --> 00:30:52.519
sure the metadata is in it registering to media

00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:57.779
base and BDS, which was two different companies

00:30:57.779 --> 00:31:02.180
now they've merged into one is nilson media base

00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:04.759
BDS or whatever the college Yeah, I'm with that

00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.619
too. It's I'm you actually just reminded me.

00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.940
I need I need to go register all my last singles

00:31:11.940 --> 00:31:15.660
with them. Yeah, that's a thing. Oh man, I forgot

00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:18.019
about that. I need to go back and do my paperwork

00:31:18.019 --> 00:31:22.160
for that. Yeah, but it's a lot. I told you about

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.559
never winning. They're not in Nielsen. You just

00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:28.619
reminded me. Yeah. That's the thing. Like I made

00:31:28.619 --> 00:31:31.380
sure that everything was always something else

00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:33.539
though with the music side, man. It is. It is.

00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:35.980
And then with the stuff, you could leave money

00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:38.599
on the table anywhere. Yeah, you can and that's

00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:40.599
the thing if you don't have a register with all

00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.079
the different places you need to you will be

00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.880
missing out on money Yeah, that's the thing and

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:50.680
like even like making sure that I'm saying you

00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:53.180
that's just song splits correctly with you know

00:31:53.180 --> 00:31:55.019
when you collaborate with other people and then

00:31:55.019 --> 00:31:56.700
half a time they'll even have this stuff like

00:31:56.700 --> 00:31:59.099
I've done stuff with other artists I'm going

00:31:59.099 --> 00:32:04.269
through that so much right now I literally basically

00:32:04.269 --> 00:32:07.049
kind of leaving cuz of the sound quality too,

00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:09.769
but I'm basically leaving my home by breding

00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:13.730
them in educator And I'm just gonna start recording

00:32:13.730 --> 00:32:18.869
with all my homeboys people now Because that

00:32:18.869 --> 00:32:22.089
yeah, cuz like I don't want to be working with

00:32:22.089 --> 00:32:25.710
you still and be Have my shit right and you just

00:32:25.710 --> 00:32:29.809
won't do a LLC or do some people it's right Then

00:32:29.809 --> 00:32:31.369
it's like you're telling me this name when I

00:32:31.369 --> 00:32:33.599
look it up and there's somebody else who's black

00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.420
magic and they're shit and all. And then it's

00:32:36.420 --> 00:32:38.799
the other and then you got it. You you have a

00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.519
team of people behind you and they're following

00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:42.039
you. You're the leader and you don't want to

00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.619
do it. It's like, man. Yeah. I don't know. I

00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:47.880
just like and that's why I guess they say sometimes

00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:51.299
people change, but it's it's the my state. Exactly.

00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:54.559
Change when you you know you can do better and

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.640
there's a way to actually then get passive income

00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:02.589
for your family. Why won't you do it? It's like

00:33:02.589 --> 00:33:04.630
all of them, you know, it's a hundred million

00:33:04.630 --> 00:33:06.930
behind all here. There's not it's not a lot of

00:33:06.930 --> 00:33:09.990
money Just to start out. You know what I'm saying?

00:33:10.549 --> 00:33:12.529
And then it's going you going to get the shit

00:33:12.529 --> 00:33:15.690
back You see I'm doing you see I'm getting numbered.

00:33:16.009 --> 00:33:17.549
You know, like it's not like I'm playing with

00:33:17.549 --> 00:33:21.930
it. You know That's one of the things but it's

00:33:21.930 --> 00:33:25.170
funny that you said how you describe how that

00:33:25.170 --> 00:33:27.549
one artist one rapper just in one rapper more

00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:32.519
on the girl had personally issues I, not just,

00:33:32.619 --> 00:33:34.000
you know, I was talking about the recording people

00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.579
when I was doing film. I was doing like music

00:33:37.579 --> 00:33:43.559
videos. You know, they wanted to rap and shit.

00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:45.500
I was talking about film. So I was like, all

00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:47.539
right, I see you can't, you actually recorded,

00:33:47.779 --> 00:33:50.119
you're not bullshitting. I will spend some time

00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.339
with you. I will record, I will do some music

00:33:53.339 --> 00:33:55.200
video. And I used to do that in Miami, but I

00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.819
used to get paid, same thing. You know, if I'm

00:33:57.819 --> 00:34:00.230
gonna do a film. Video you love to pay the X

00:34:00.230 --> 00:34:02.130
amount. This is my time. I was gonna take me

00:34:02.130 --> 00:34:04.589
to do it. Um, I still did a few little videos

00:34:04.589 --> 00:34:07.750
here for other people There's always a thing

00:34:07.750 --> 00:34:09.590
with that type of business. You got to have a

00:34:09.590 --> 00:34:12.369
what like my dad said business is consistent

00:34:12.369 --> 00:34:15.530
You got to have a return customer and it's not

00:34:15.530 --> 00:34:18.329
really return customer. Then it's not consistent

00:34:18.329 --> 00:34:22.050
All right, so it's not really a function in business

00:34:22.050 --> 00:34:24.809
and then if you have to be going out trying to

00:34:24.809 --> 00:34:27.170
convince people at times like because he saw

00:34:27.170 --> 00:34:29.530
my daddy so I love life insurance and he can

00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:31.510
still go back now because me and him were still

00:34:31.510 --> 00:34:33.610
talking about the how much shares he had and

00:34:33.610 --> 00:34:36.489
what is still paid. And that was the one thing

00:34:36.489 --> 00:34:38.730
where I love boy black. I remember having to

00:34:38.730 --> 00:34:41.309
shake a lot of people's hands in Kingston. Hey,

00:34:41.329 --> 00:34:43.489
this is my son is my son. He'd be working somewhere

00:34:43.489 --> 00:34:47.789
in shorts. So I know not to play with business.

00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.309
And that's the things like these these artists,

00:34:50.650 --> 00:34:53.630
I was doing shit for them. Yeah, they paid here,

00:34:53.650 --> 00:34:56.389
but they're not return customers. It's too slow

00:34:56.389 --> 00:35:00.630
down. It's not enough and then The hours of time

00:35:00.630 --> 00:35:04.110
to take the attitude Yes, that's the one thing

00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:06.190
I still I still really don't have any music videos.

00:35:06.289 --> 00:35:09.250
I've started I went out and started filming talk

00:35:09.250 --> 00:35:11.769
about love to make my first music video Because

00:35:11.769 --> 00:35:13.630
I have all this footage. It's like damn I did

00:35:13.630 --> 00:35:15.809
like a two -day shoot for myself real quick and

00:35:15.809 --> 00:35:19.630
I have some more interior to do and get like

00:35:20.059 --> 00:35:22.960
Another model and then pay like this one white

00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.840
girl in England. She wants to dance for it and

00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:27.820
shit some tiktoker With all that's costing I

00:35:27.820 --> 00:35:30.360
pay like 150 or some shit. She'll put on a tiktok

00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:33.079
But I'll use the background the footage and in

00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.360
the land and I want to show different cultures

00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.519
of people Because the song's about love it's

00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:40.519
about you know two commandments that you're sure

00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.719
y 'all shy spoke um So I wanted to do it right

00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.280
especially my first thing and I got puppeteering

00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.780
in there with my mascot glow in the dark You

00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:53.500
know saying it's a lot of different stuff going

00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:59.460
on with that so All that I can control I can

00:35:59.460 --> 00:36:02.420
control the time in any these other artists I

00:36:02.420 --> 00:36:04.239
couldn't necessarily control the same thing you

00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:06.159
can't control what they're gonna do with the

00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.099
time when they're gonna come back right even

00:36:08.099 --> 00:36:11.179
now I just talking about my home where the pharmacist

00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:15.400
and he put me up to his, uh, Brejan. I just found

00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.519
out this dude used to, he wrote a lot of the

00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.699
songs for Sammy. I had never got paid as a writer.

00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.460
Yeah. So now that brother is using AI because

00:36:27.460 --> 00:36:29.800
he has the same problem. He's writing songs using

00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.900
AI, trying to get all the largest people to AI.

00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:34.619
Mm -hmm. He ain't never gonna get that money

00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:37.239
for Sam. Everybody knows Sammy or Adam. Yeah.

00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.059
I feel you know what I'm talking about. Mm -hmm.

00:36:40.059 --> 00:36:43.079
So now this is my new recording engineer because

00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:46.679
of my other homeboy Booneys cousin Mm -hmm. I

00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.980
was in put me on him now. I'm going to another

00:36:49.980 --> 00:36:53.440
studio on them and Henry County. Mm -hmm. All

00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:58.000
right, so shout out now Me him and both people,

00:36:58.219 --> 00:36:59.860
you know, we ain't working on Shabbat. We won't

00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:01.920
work on the first day and go do this and this

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.980
was like Some of the things you're talking about

00:37:04.980 --> 00:37:07.320
he's had problem. So all those have problems

00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.989
artists and we also got What's the best way to

00:37:09.989 --> 00:37:14.610
do it? Put my energy into myself. Yeah. Do myself.

00:37:15.369 --> 00:37:17.849
I could be consistent with myself as best as

00:37:17.849 --> 00:37:20.849
I can be. You know, it's it's back to our old

00:37:20.849 --> 00:37:23.730
shit. It's out of necessity almost. Yeah, it

00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:28.110
is. You know, like, you know, it's out of necessity.

00:37:28.869 --> 00:37:30.429
Yeah. You're still there trying to help other

00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:34.030
out to, you know, get their dreams met. But then

00:37:34.030 --> 00:37:36.190
they're not consistent. You know, like, I can't

00:37:36.190 --> 00:37:40.559
build anything. Consistency person with a good

00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:43.619
heart and the money and the time of the patient

00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:49.480
Sometimes hey shit gotta stop some sometime Exactly,

00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.300
so that's where I just transitioned so you know

00:37:52.300 --> 00:37:55.119
went into you know podcasting and building radio

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.820
station and all that and Just doing it that way

00:37:57.820 --> 00:38:01.300
because working with artists from a label standpoint.

00:38:01.659 --> 00:38:04.760
I'm like it's hard if people don't talk about

00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:09.360
that but I did want you to do it. Exactly. I

00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.599
get some people sometime and even when I get

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:12.840
little people to rap with me, it's still like

00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:14.639
you kind of like you got to pull their leg and

00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.639
work with these stuff. But that's everybody,

00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.880
everybody's life is just too difficult. This

00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:24.900
economy, people's mentality these days, you know

00:38:24.900 --> 00:38:29.360
what I'm saying? It is what it is. I did want

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.550
you, because I got to... do another interview

00:38:32.550 --> 00:38:34.849
here in a little bit at 12. I want you to let

00:38:34.849 --> 00:38:37.590
everybody know, how can they take out your music,

00:38:37.690 --> 00:38:39.090
where do they need to go, and if they want to

00:38:39.090 --> 00:38:44.190
support? Yeah, definitely with me, I prefer everybody

00:38:44.190 --> 00:38:48.530
would give me up on Apple Music. And it's capital

00:38:48.530 --> 00:38:52.769
O, capital S, capital A, you know, man, capital

00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:56.090
M, of course, so it's also man, which I had to

00:38:56.090 --> 00:39:00.159
fight CD Baby for years. Because of the s in

00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.559
the a they wouldn't capitalize it. Hmm. A lot

00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:05.820
of my stuff was this prolonged. It's unnecessary

00:39:05.820 --> 00:39:08.920
things And there's another artist named also

00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.079
the same way so don't confuse me with him He's

00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:13.340
capital osa too, but I think he's supposed to

00:39:13.340 --> 00:39:16.219
be the one with capital O lowercase s lowercase

00:39:16.219 --> 00:39:21.760
a Mm -hmm. So I'm also man YouTube or Apple music

00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.219
definitely hit me up like that social media.

00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:30.099
I really don't care. I'm more And just about

00:39:30.099 --> 00:39:33.139
what I do, you know same just TC TC IB 10 care

00:39:33.139 --> 00:39:36.039
of business as a brother should you know? Mm

00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.539
-hmm. Yes, I said take care of business in the

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:42.119
most professional manner. So I call it brofessionalism

00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.980
Brofessionalism. I love it. It's just love the

00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:47.699
lingo Everybody out there. Yeah, I'm sure y 'all

00:39:47.699 --> 00:39:50.099
go and support also man. Like you said go to

00:39:50.099 --> 00:39:53.320
Apple music and spell his name correctly capital

00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:58.340
OSA followed by man ma in Y 'all keep supporting

00:39:58.340 --> 00:40:01.360
the platform and all the interviews that we put

00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:03.679
out and support the independent artists because

00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.400
the independent artists need supporting. I just

00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:12.300
want to say big up to Deffy's talking about my

00:40:12.300 --> 00:40:14.780
Andreas right here. He's banked out. You know

00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:16.320
what I'm saying? Money falling out of pockets

00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.739
all out the bank. It's banked out radio. It's

00:40:18.739 --> 00:40:21.280
my first podcast. I appreciate you having me.

00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.099
Oceaman Luke Music. I do it to life as opposed

00:40:24.099 --> 00:40:25.400
to death. Shalom.