From Dance Shoes to Director's Views

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On this episode, we sat down with Toy Blackman,

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the definition of a creative spreader. Her journey

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started as a CNA, but she quickly carved out

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her own lane through pure hustle and reinvention.

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From dancing on the poles to modeling, authorship,

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film production, directing, writing, talk show

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hosting, and even do -it -yourself credit repair,

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Toy has done it all. Today, she is the powerhouse

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moderating and running the Offscript Show. and

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she joins us to share the raw truth behind her

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trials, triumphs, pivots, and the mindset that

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it takes to keep standing as an entrepreneur

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in multiple industries. Tune in for a real unfiltered

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look at ambition, reinvention, and resilience.

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I'm your host, Andreas, and I got a... Love her.

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I'm supposed to go to sleep, but I be all over

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the place, so I was like... Yeah, that's what

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we wanted it to be. Following up on social medias

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right now because... There just wasn't producing

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a lot at the time. So just hearing about... Google

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Google and YouTube University is idealistically

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the best way to learn All right, y 'all, it's

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another episode brought to y 'all via Zoom. This

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is Andreas, your host of Bankedoutt Radio Show,

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and I have Toy Blackman online with us. We're

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going to get into her journey. She's a fellow

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podcaster, creator, and does a lot more other

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things than we're going to let her do that for

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y 'all. So let's go ahead and jump into it. Toy,

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thank you for taking the time out of your day,

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because you didn't have to do this. Yeah, thank

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you. You're welcome. I know I was kind of like

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all over the place with you last week, we were

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supposed to do this last week, but I'd be all

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over the place. So I was like, you know what?

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I have to stay professional and keep him on point,

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like letting them know what's going on. So that's

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how we do it. I get it. You know, I've been doing

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this since like, you know, 2016. So next year

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will be 10 years of podcasting, right? Congratulations.

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Thank you. I appreciate that. And a lot of things

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have changed over the course of time, as we build

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things, especially when we take an idea of something,

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and then we invest into that idea, and we keep

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it going. It evolves, it evolves, it evolves,

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and it just turns into a lot of stuff. You get

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to see how the industry reacts to it, how people

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react to it, people dropping in, dropping off,

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people trying to, I guess, become competition.

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not really be in competition, and then those

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people dropping off and stuff like that. So I

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wanted to get your perspective as a fellow podcaster.

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How is podcasting landscape for you versus when

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you started? And then all the other, I would

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say, ancillary services and benefits that it

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offers and that you can offer people to be able

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to help them with the visions that they're creating

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as well. So, you know, let everybody know, you

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know, say a little bit about yourself. You know,

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from Florida, now residing in, you know, North

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Carolina. What is that, North Carolina? What

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did Peter Pavel used to say? North Carolina likey?

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North Carolina likey. But yeah, go ahead. Go

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ahead and get into, you know, let the folks know.

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Okay. Hey, I am Toy Blackman. I do a whole lot

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of things. I'm an author. of The Secret She Kept,

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The Lies She Told. That book is out on my website.

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I have merch out. My brand is Are You Successful?

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And I get into the meaning behind that because

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he might have questions for that. I'm a filmmaker.

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I write the scripts. I do the casting call, the

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executive producer, the director. I do it out.

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I do it out. I do DIY credit repair. Well, I

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don't do it, but you know where people can do

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it themselves because I have paid so many people

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to fix my credit. And it's like I paid money

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for nothing. Nothing ever happened. I don't see

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any. So I was like, you know what? I'm going

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to take the time and do it myself. So it's a

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lot of things that I have going on. I'm originally

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from Belgrade, Florida, but now I live in Liberty,

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North Carolina. So, Belle Glade, Florida? Belle

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Glade, Florida. Glade, Florida. Where is that

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in relations to Florida? Is it south, central,

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or northern? It's 20 minutes out of West Palm

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Beach, Florida. I've learned where West Palm

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Beach, Florida is. So, and I've actually, I was

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down there last, in August. a few months back

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or whatever. So I got to learn about the West

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Palm Beach area and stuff like that. I like the

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state of Florida. I just wouldn't be personally,

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I don't see myself living there just because

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of the threat of hurricanes. So, and I get it.

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You know what I'm saying? A lot of people live

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there, whatever. I think when you live in a place

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and you're acclimated to it or you grow up in

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a place, then you're used to the things and the

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information that's disseminated. outside of not

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living there, you know what I'm saying? It's

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like, I'm originally from Tennessee, tornadoes

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and stuff like that, but I couldn't live out

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west, I mean, out Midwest, like Texas and Oklahoma,

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because of Flatlands, because I'm like, you hear

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the horror stories and stuff, but nobody really

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gives you like, you know what I'm saying, the

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real truth truth to how it is living in a place,

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whatever. But I do like the state as far as like,

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you know, what it has to offer. Yeah. So we'll

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always go and you know spend time and stuff like

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that So tell us you do all these creative things

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What got you into being you know, i'm saying

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so creative and what was the first thing that

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you started with? Oh, that's a good question

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the crazy part about it Like I really feel like

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I wasn't put on earth to work for anybody Okay,

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I love it Every time I had a job the only job

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that I really was happy in was when I was in

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the health care. I was a CNA. And when I was

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doing that, that is the only job that I enjoyed

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going to work. I enjoyed helping people. But

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when it came to my businesses, the first thing

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I ever had was a online boutique. OK. And it

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was prospering. It did really good until I met

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the wrong person. And when I met them and got

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them involved in my business, they end up, when

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the relationship didn't work out, they end up

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- Basically taking business or sabotaging it?

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They not even sabotaged it. They kind of like,

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what you call, hacked all my social media's account

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and I had people from other states that used

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to literally buy from me wholesale for they -

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boutiques and day stores, things like that. And

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he literally hacked my accounts and was reaching

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out to them people and scammed them. Let's make

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that radio show and I have some deals for y 'all.

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There are some companies that I've been going,

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researching, looking at the different products

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and services that I want to turn you on to. So

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go to my deals page, check them out. Any one

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of them that you want to interact with, want

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to do some business with. you'll get a promo

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discount as well when you try their product.

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Banked out, B -A -N -K -E -D -O -U -T -T. Slide

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over to that page, check out what I have to offer

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and let me know. So one of my customers, she

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was about to sue me. I had to go to the courts.

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The courts told me they can't do anything about

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it and all this stuff. So yeah. I'm like that

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was self -attached though. He self -attached

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the success of your business based off of the

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personal relationship that you had, which is

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shitty by the way. Know what I'm saying? It sucked

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that you had to go through something like that

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because I know what it is to build a business.

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I've been a full -time entrepreneur since 2013

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and entrepreneur since 2005. So you're talking

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about 20 years worth of experience of doing different

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things that know how to make money because you

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said successful. You know how to make money.

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There's a lot of people out there who don't know

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how to make money when it comes to being a business

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owner. I'm sure you see it all the time and you

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see all the stuff that they do wrong and then

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you try to give them like some little nuggets

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and stuff like that. I think they all fall in

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different categories as far as like this. You'll

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have the entrepreneurs that you talk to, right?

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They're part -time or they're wanting to be the

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entrepreneur that you are. So some of them, they'll

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listen to your information and they'll run with

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it. The other ones will listen to your information,

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but like be salty about it and thinking that,

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you know what I'm saying? You're downing them

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when you're just trying to get them to lessen

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the learning curve or what we like to say in

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business, the J curve is when you invest into

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a business and it's going down, down, down until

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it hits the pinnacle of the curbership and it

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shoots straight up. because now you have all

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the information, you have all the experience,

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you have the resources you dumped into it, and

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you're able to tweak each day until you hit to

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where, you know, it starts the synergy process.

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And they want that, but they don't know how to

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receive that information. Am I hitting the nail

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on the head? Yeah, and it's like, too, you could

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tell them, get them gems all day and they still

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won't use it. They still because they saw accustomed

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to what they do. So they don't because they feel

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like that's what's working for them when you're

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just trying to help elevate them. Exactly. But

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the thing that I tell people about time, if it

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was working for you, then you wouldn't need nobody

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help. Yeah, that's the thing. And I'm like, we

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don't know everything. But as we become successful

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and hit tiers of success, because, you know,

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success is in a lot of different tiers, then

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if someone is ahead of you, you should want to

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listen to them. Right. But you know, hey, that's

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my little soapbox for that or whatever, because,

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you know, I could talk about this, this and wow,

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you know, is there all day with that. But so

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you do the boutique. There's a creative space.

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What was the next phase into your life after

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the boutique then? After that, when that happened,

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I kind of gave up on it and I went to. I did

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my own cosmetic line. So I used to have lip gloss

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and lipsticks and shirts. So the shirts used

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to... I can't remember what the shirts used to

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say, but I'd just seen a thing of it the other

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day. I was like, oh, these shirts was cute. And

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it'd have a lip on the shirt also with the words

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and whatever color lipstick, because that's when...

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You remember Kisha Kior? Remember when she had

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the colorful lipsticks? I was out around the

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same time. So I also had the colorful lipstick.

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So whatever lips that was on the shirt that matched

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it matched the lipstick. So they're either get

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the lipstick and the shirt for. $30 or they could

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just get the lipstick. I'll just get the shirt.

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So that was my next one. Um, that was really

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good for me too. Um, I was a dancer at the time,

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so majority of my customers was dancers. Um,

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makeup artists, I used to give them, um, every

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color lipstick so they can have it in they, um,

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thing to use it. So I got promo from the makeup

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artists. I had, a shop that I used to go to.

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It was a hair shop. And I used to go there on

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the weekends. I used to live in West Palm. So

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I used to go to Fort Lauderdale and sell my lipsticks

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on the weekends inside of the hair salon. So

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that's how I used to, man, it's so crazy. Like

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I remember me and my boys, because I got three

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boys, like literally used to walk around the

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neighborhood and pass out flyers. I put them

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on a mailbox. Yes. Yeah. That's our old school

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work. Like that in itself gave you real time

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data when you interact with people that people

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are missing nowadays. Yeah, the reshaped about

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thing that should go back to doing stuff like

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that. So you mentioned dancing and stuff like

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that. I imagine you was doing it because I'm

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saying it's a necessity. You know, I'm saying

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to keep a livelihood going and stuff like that.

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How did that like, you know, as far as like,

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you know, you doing that because now you're being

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branded at that particular time, you know what

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I'm saying, as a dancer and stuff and you putting

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yourself out there. Was there any like negative

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connotation or feedback that came that way or

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you just took it in stride? No, it was not to

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be honest because I was the type of person I

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always brand myself. So if you see anything that's

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connected to me, you see the name of it is successful.

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It has the name successful in it because that

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was my dance name. I used to be successful the

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model when I was modeling. And what happened

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with that situation, I end up being noticed by

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a company. out in New York and I flew to New

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York and got signed but I gave them things that

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I wouldn't do because I had kids and things I

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told them I wouldn't do. The first thing they

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had me to do was something I said I wouldn't

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do. I know by me being a dancer and all that

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a dancer would have loved that but me not knowing

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what kind of magazine it was They lied to me

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and say, oh, it was just a magazine up here in

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New York that they put out in the stores and

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things like that for entertainment. So, and when

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I was there, I seen like majority of the girls

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that was there was dancers. So when I got back

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home, a customer in the strip club seen me, he

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congratulated me and he was like, but do you

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know what type of a magazine you just like got

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published in? So I was like, Yeah, it's the magazine

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that they sell up in New York in the stores or

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whatever. He was like, no, that magazine is the

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number one magazine in prisons. Oh, nobody's

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going to be jacking off for you. Oh, my God.

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I called my manager and I was off and I was like,

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my contract, which I already know they wasn't

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going to tear it up. So I just stepped back from

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modeling because the contract for three years.

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So I stopped doing it. And I was like, I just

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stopped into my contract as well. Once my contract

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was over, I just never got back into it. I'm

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glad that, you know what I'm saying? You learned

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a lesson. Yeah. Not to jump on the first thing

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that someone offers. Yeah, because you see how

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the industry with creative spaces, entertainment,

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it's always predicated. Now, I hate the fact

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that the industry has been doing that for decades

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now. But that's also predatory old things in

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other industries as well. It's just not as, I

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guess, bad because creative spaces do not have

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as much regulations as other industries do. So

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you're bouncing back from there. What was your

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next move to be able to like, you know, shift

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and keep it going? Because like you said, you

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don't work for nobody else. You work for yourself.

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So what was your next adventure? Being a dancer,

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I was a dancer for a long time on and off, but

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I also still had a nine to five dance when I

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was in the health field. I'll work, go to the

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strip clubs on my days off. Like say for instance,

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I work today, but I have tomorrow also tonight.

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I'm gonna go work at the club. So that's kind

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of too with the healthcare money and me being

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a dancer with the extra money. That's how literally

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I was getting a flow and I was investing in my

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businesses, investing in me, you know? So that's

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how that worked for me. And I'm so glad like,

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I was a dancer that literally had respect for

00:16:43.769 --> 00:16:46.629
myself that the guys really respected me, too.

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I really didn't get a lot of disrespect. Guys

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used to literally talk to me like, oh, you don't

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even seem like you should be doing this. Why

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are you doing it? And I'd be like, it's not a

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reason. Like, I'm not going to sit here and say,

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oh, because I'm trying to pay for school. And

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I'm trying to do this. I'm trying to do this.

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Like, the money was good. I love fast money.

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That's when I noticed. I'm supposed to be wrecking

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for nobody. I love you. And they was telling

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me like, don't never get your body done because

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if you get your body done, that means you look

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at dancing as a career. So I got my butt done

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and my breasts done, but I didn't do it for,

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to make more money. I did it for me because that

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will. was my insecurity within myself, you know

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what I'm saying? So I got it to make me feel

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good, not to make one money in a club or look

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good for a man, right? And it's so crazy. You

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would not believe this. I'm the type of girl

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like I really don't even like showing off my

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body, to be honest. So like you said, it's just

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something that, you know, you wake up every day,

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you look in the mirror, you know, you like, I

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want these changes and stuff like that. And like

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I said, it's for you. So what's the next thing

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that you started like really? Did you? Is that

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when you like started the podcasting or was it

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something prior to that? It was so crazy I used

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to get opportunities back in the days to where

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um, I think it was the year I want to say 2014

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is when every everything started popping up for

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me. I got an opportunity to have my own talk

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show on um on this on w wod tv station So I did

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that I don't never know what happened to that,

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like why we stopped doing it because it was a

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good thing. Don't know what happened with that.

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And then I was on a radio station, the great

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AFM, it was an underground station. Me and I

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had a partner at the time. We only used to focus

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on indie artists. So we used to interview them,

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only play indie artists music. And then we had

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a show that we used to do for them, an open mic

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thing that we used to do for them. So after the

00:19:05.619 --> 00:19:07.880
show, we'll go to the club and do our open mics

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with the artists that shows up and things like

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that. So literally I've been in, I ain't gonna

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say podcasting because back then they wasn't

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calling podcasting, but I had talk shows and

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radio shows. from back then, then I stopped because

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I realized I was the only one that was putting

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in money when it came to all this stuff. And

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I'm like, I'm putting in my money, but when it

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comes for payout, I have a partner that was reaping

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the benefits. Oh yeah, that's horrible setup.

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Yeah. So I stopped that, fell back from that.

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Oh, I was a fell back. Can I press on here? whatever

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you feel like you want to say. I was a fell -back

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motherfucker. At least I noticed that this ain't

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making no sense to me. I stepped away from it,

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you know what I'm saying? And I feel like if

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I would have kept going in the space that I was

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because everything I used to do back then used

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to pop, I really feel like I would be bigger

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than what I am now. But I was a fallbacker. I'll

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stop something, go to the next thing. Stop something,

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go to the next thing. So then I have this question

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then, because I've done situations like that

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before too, right? Invest my money and brought

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other people. And I'll tell you, like, you know

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what I'm saying, the synopsis of even with this

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particular platform, what I've done in the past

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in a little bit. So as, you know what I'm saying?

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You're doing business. I know how it is being

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a single funding business and the creative. you're

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wanting the idea of what you see in the vision

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to be executed to its fullest potential so you're

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allowing people to come into spaces where they're

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going to reap benefits right like you said um

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and did you just approach that with like okay

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i'm just going to trust that this person is going

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to be as committed as me knowing that you know

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as soon as you put up bread they don't put up

00:21:06.789 --> 00:21:11.410
bread that's the first flag right there How are

00:21:11.410 --> 00:21:13.809
you, how are you navigating that? And you know,

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cause I can only imagine you was feeling torn

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at some times. Yeah. Yes. Because it was, it

00:21:20.809 --> 00:21:24.190
was like, now I'm to the point where I have to

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understand your vision is not everybody else's

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vision. So they could say, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:21:31.190 --> 00:21:33.250
yeah. I get it. I'm on the, I do the same thing.

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And with the radio station now, when it came

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to promoting, because I don't know if you follow

00:21:39.829 --> 00:21:42.950
me on any social media, like I promote my ass

00:21:42.950 --> 00:21:46.170
off. And he was a big promoter like that too.

00:21:46.230 --> 00:21:48.369
Like he promoted his ass off on social media.

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But when it just came to funding part, I tried

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to be understanding that he had little babies

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and a wife and all that. I try to be. You got

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three boys. Exactly. You're in the same position.

00:22:01.849 --> 00:22:04.569
Exactly. But I still was trying to be understanding,

00:22:04.569 --> 00:22:07.450
you know, so. it just comes to a point where

00:22:07.450 --> 00:22:09.970
you get tired. You can have that talk all you

00:22:09.970 --> 00:22:13.089
want, like, okay, bro, like I'm putting in this

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and then you ain't putting in nothing. And it's

00:22:15.250 --> 00:22:19.809
like, okay, now I'm tired. So when you get tired

00:22:19.809 --> 00:22:24.809
of that up, you step away. But I had tried the

00:22:24.809 --> 00:22:29.950
come back with the podcast and had a collaboration

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with someone. And it was just like, I just felt

00:22:35.509 --> 00:22:38.549
like I was bigger than what they wanted to do.

00:22:39.069 --> 00:22:42.710
They wanted to just focus on the LGBT community,

00:22:42.769 --> 00:22:45.910
and I'm bigger than the LGBT community. I haven't

00:22:45.910 --> 00:22:48.009
been gay all my life. I don't been with men.

00:22:48.130 --> 00:22:50.930
I don't care about speaking on it. But them,

00:22:51.470 --> 00:22:55.369
they have this image to where, and they got kids

00:22:55.369 --> 00:22:59.150
too, but they have this image in a gay. world

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to where they don't talk about men or they still

00:23:02.410 --> 00:23:04.509
sneak around with men but people don't know it

00:23:04.509 --> 00:23:07.589
you feel me so it was like i'm telling my business

00:23:07.589 --> 00:23:09.950
because like i told you i'm an open book i talk

00:23:09.950 --> 00:23:12.869
about anything but i'm telling my business on

00:23:12.869 --> 00:23:17.529
the show but yet you're sitting back not so it

00:23:17.529 --> 00:23:20.869
was just like yeah that's not for me either so

00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.839
that's when I started Successful Toy Podcast

00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.559
by myself. So I can run it how I want to run

00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.259
it. I don't have to run it by nobody or none

00:23:30.259 --> 00:23:34.730
of that. And that I was very I was very successful.

00:23:35.029 --> 00:23:37.269
I always had... Talk about that then. Talk about,

00:23:37.390 --> 00:23:40.470
you know, talk your talk. Tell us how successful

00:23:40.470 --> 00:23:45.029
was, you know, a successful toy podcast. I imagine,

00:23:45.150 --> 00:23:47.490
you know what I'm saying, it's a solo type episodes

00:23:47.490 --> 00:23:49.190
and stuff, right? And you just probably bring

00:23:49.190 --> 00:23:50.910
on and interview guests and things of that nature.

00:23:51.750 --> 00:23:54.589
So tell us, let us know. So with successful toy

00:23:54.589 --> 00:24:00.349
podcast, I built different shows to do. on my

00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:03.289
podcast, even if I don't have a guest, I could

00:24:03.289 --> 00:24:07.509
still be on there talking by myself. So I had

00:24:07.509 --> 00:24:11.289
21 questions. That was the first thing, the first

00:24:11.289 --> 00:24:13.750
show I ever did. And it was all about myself.

00:24:14.430 --> 00:24:16.250
And then I ain't gonna lie. At first I was used

00:24:16.250 --> 00:24:18.549
to be like, I don't want to do no guest. I just

00:24:18.549 --> 00:24:21.650
want my show and I can pop my shit and you know,

00:24:21.730 --> 00:24:23.109
they like it, they like it, they don't, they

00:24:23.109 --> 00:24:25.829
don't. So. From there, people started reaching

00:24:25.829 --> 00:24:28.029
out. First, it was my friends. They was like,

00:24:28.029 --> 00:24:29.869
oh, I want to be on your podcast. I was like,

00:24:29.930 --> 00:24:32.329
this is not a podcast. And I was like, damn,

00:24:32.390 --> 00:24:34.150
I should have named it This Is Not a Podcast,

00:24:34.150 --> 00:24:36.369
because I keep telling people this is not a podcast.

00:24:36.690 --> 00:24:39.150
Like, you could come on in and talk shit with

00:24:39.150 --> 00:24:42.230
me, but this is not a podcast. So I end up turning

00:24:42.230 --> 00:24:48.049
it into a podcast because I had doctors, entrepreneurs,

00:24:48.950 --> 00:24:51.910
actors, singers, artists, like reaching out.

00:24:51.950 --> 00:24:55.099
And I'm like, And then I also have people referring

00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:57.880
them. So it was like, girl, you better turn this

00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:01.140
mother fucker into a podcast. So that's when

00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:03.480
I turned into a podcast. But still, I was like,

00:25:03.579 --> 00:25:06.720
I still want my show to be authentic. I don't

00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.740
want you to be someone I'm not. So it's like,

00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:13.720
listen, if you come on my show, I don't talk

00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:15.519
about politics. I don't talk about religion.

00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:18.640
And I do cuss. I cuss my ass off. And they're

00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.039
like, oh, I love that. And it's crazy because.

00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:24.920
I had some amazing guests on my show. I had,

00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:31.019
I can't remember her name, but she was on Housewives

00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:36.980
of, what's the one, start with a P, Jesus, I

00:25:36.980 --> 00:25:40.059
can't remember. Maybe, I don't know. I was about

00:25:40.059 --> 00:25:41.779
to say Philadelphia or something. I'm not familiar

00:25:41.779 --> 00:25:45.660
with all the Housewives of P or P. The only one

00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:47.799
I remember is Housewives of Atlanta, and I didn't

00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.319
really get into it. Yeah, it was like would you

00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.039
say it though? Yeah, it was one of the housewives

00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:58.539
that but with the Caucasian one is on there.

00:25:58.539 --> 00:26:04.700
I have one of them on here I had What is his

00:26:04.700 --> 00:26:08.799
name Oh my Jesus why can't think of these are

00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.859
like I'm having a brain fart, but he was from

00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:17.500
Family business. Mm -hmm. He came on my show

00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:20.799
Ms. Toy was on my show, the one who's saying,

00:26:20.900 --> 00:26:23.940
you can do it, put your back into it. I actually

00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:26.700
did a collab with her, and I'm not even a rapper,

00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.299
but she put me on one of her songs as a feature,

00:26:29.380 --> 00:26:34.500
and I had a rapping part. Yeah, so it just turned

00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:39.559
into a big thing, and my number one downloads

00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.599
used to be in Sydney, and it was like, oh shit,

00:26:43.740 --> 00:26:48.180
I'm international. Australia. Yes, I was like

00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:51.240
Listen, I told my girl I was like I need to go

00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:52.720
over there because I need to meet these people

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.940
because They are my number one downloaders. So

00:26:56.940 --> 00:27:00.960
with that it was just It was amazing. So how

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.140
did it? Okay You had this success and stuff.

00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:06.059
So why did they start to taper off for you? And

00:27:06.059 --> 00:27:12.480
then why did you reform it? because I Was slacking

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.640
I got lazy Uh -huh, I get that. Yeah, I understand

00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:23.140
that. I got lazy and then it was like My the

00:27:23.140 --> 00:27:25.700
episode I had was like I was telling I had three

00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:28.619
different not three But like four or five different

00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:32.180
categories on my show. I had the 21 question

00:27:32.180 --> 00:27:37.660
interviewing people This one I used to call conversation

00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:40.339
where we only talk about mental health have mental

00:27:40.339 --> 00:27:42.519
health questions for the guests that come on.

00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:45.680
I had 21 questions with a twist where we played.

00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:49.440
I made up a game focusing on my podcast that

00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.599
was fun and to get to know people better. And

00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:58.220
I had kiss or kill. That was the game. So I had

00:27:58.220 --> 00:28:01.720
these different things. Oh, and I had the panel,

00:28:02.180 --> 00:28:07.220
but the panel did better than everything else.

00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:11.500
So I'm this type of girl when god speaks to me

00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:17.460
I move I don't be disobedient So by me was getting

00:28:17.460 --> 00:28:21.160
lazy with successful toy podcast. He put in my

00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.240
heart like okay Just do it because I was doing

00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.480
it. I was doing two shows a day monday through

00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.220
friday Oh, wow, you're doing 10 shows a week.

00:28:30.619 --> 00:28:33.839
Yes So I feel like that's why I was getting overwhelmed

00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.759
and god was telling me he was like listen do

00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.900
the panel where you have six people on there

00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:44.339
you including that's the six and you do it once

00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:49.160
a week yeah and it works for me yes and it opened

00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.740
up a lot of space for me to focus on other things

00:28:52.740 --> 00:28:55.039
instead of me trying to because i used to do

00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.700
one pm and five pm you didn't have a that ma

00:28:59.700 --> 00:29:03.059
'am we had nobody like in your quarter tell hey

00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:05.000
no first of all from a programming standpoint

00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.700
that's a lie You ain't even got news anchors

00:29:07.700 --> 00:29:12.059
who could do that. Nobody told me shit. Nobody

00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:14.619
told me shit, not even my mate. She was down

00:29:14.619 --> 00:29:17.619
with my bullshit. Well, you know, a lot of people

00:29:17.619 --> 00:29:19.019
don't have the experience of anything, but you

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:21.240
was doing a lot. So I commend you, one, to be

00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.960
able to do that and to be able to keep it and

00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.819
get it to that level with her. But I'm glad that

00:29:25.819 --> 00:29:27.859
you was able to listen to intuition and, you

00:29:27.859 --> 00:29:30.079
know, listen to God and be able to, you know,

00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.660
step back because now you're doing more with

00:29:32.660 --> 00:29:35.799
less. Yes. And I had to learn stuff like that,

00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.079
too. I started out doing three shows a week,

00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:40.220
interviewing artists and stuff and talking about

00:29:40.220 --> 00:29:42.099
various topics. And then it was just so much

00:29:42.099 --> 00:29:43.680
because you got to keep coming and you're building

00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.559
your audience. And that's the thing I want to

00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:50.519
talk to a fellow creative podcaster about. How

00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.759
do you look at the landscape now versus all the

00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.380
people? Because the entry barrier is still, I

00:29:56.380 --> 00:29:59.000
think it's way more accessible now. We have all

00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.319
these different tools that we use as far as distribution.

00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:03.569
But at the end of the day, I don't think that

00:30:03.569 --> 00:30:05.150
people think, oh, well, I want to do a podcast

00:30:05.150 --> 00:30:09.509
because they see it as a... Money. You say what?

00:30:09.769 --> 00:30:14.109
Money. People really, like the people that's

00:30:14.109 --> 00:30:15.970
coming in the podcast world now, they really

00:30:15.970 --> 00:30:18.289
doing it for money. Because you see, you even

00:30:18.289 --> 00:30:21.990
got the celebrities, like, I don't heard some

00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:24.599
say... I got into podcasts because I used to

00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.240
be seeing all the money that these people making.

00:30:26.299 --> 00:30:29.900
So why not? But it's like, you already got money.

00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:32.880
You already got money. So now I just feel like

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.720
the podcast rush is oversaturated. I don't feel

00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.880
like it's oversaturated. I just feel like, you

00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.119
know, people are, like you said, the lure of

00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.000
money and then the thing, the ease that there's

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.099
no barrier entry. So it's easy to get. But what

00:30:47.099 --> 00:30:49.220
they're missing is that you still have to build

00:30:49.220 --> 00:30:51.849
an audience and build value. and that's where

00:30:51.849 --> 00:30:54.450
all the opportunities come in at, by building

00:30:54.450 --> 00:30:57.829
value. Because when I was building mine, I started

00:30:57.829 --> 00:31:00.609
with audio first, and then I transitioned into

00:31:00.609 --> 00:31:04.750
video. Then I got lazy, because video was easier,

00:31:04.789 --> 00:31:08.109
and I stopped with the audio. So I lost a huge

00:31:08.109 --> 00:31:11.069
audience that I'm building back now, because

00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:13.509
I had people where I had it to where I did blog

00:31:13.509 --> 00:31:16.970
talk. was one of the first distribution platforms

00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:18.569
where people can call in with a number and stuff

00:31:18.569 --> 00:31:20.769
like that and playing the music and doing the

00:31:20.769 --> 00:31:22.329
interviews in between. It was set up like, that's

00:31:22.329 --> 00:31:24.130
why it's called Big That Radio Show. It was set

00:31:24.130 --> 00:31:27.970
up like a radio show. I just kept the name. But

00:31:27.970 --> 00:31:31.869
then once video came aboard and then I was doing

00:31:31.869 --> 00:31:34.150
Facebook Lives and stuff like that with Industry

00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:36.130
Thursdays and did that for like a year and a

00:31:36.130 --> 00:31:38.470
half and was doing like phenomenal numbers, people

00:31:38.470 --> 00:31:41.210
recognizing I'm doing, selling my own ads, all

00:31:41.210 --> 00:31:44.339
sorts of stuff. You know, you get lazy or, you

00:31:44.339 --> 00:31:46.799
know, you start to want to do other things and,

00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:50.839
you know, you don't stick to. But what I've been

00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.039
seeing over the last few years, like you said,

00:31:53.140 --> 00:31:54.680
celebrities are jumping into it. I think some

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.319
of them jump into it too because they don't even

00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.359
have a business model for their celebrity talent.

00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.000
They have to, you know, depend on talent to get

00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.160
hired. But now if they have a brand that's already

00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.140
been, they have a brand recognition because they've

00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:10.400
been poured into millions of marketing dollars

00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.019
through various projects. they can capitalize

00:32:13.019 --> 00:32:15.599
off of that. But I still think that they forget

00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:19.539
that podcasting and building the platforms is

00:32:19.539 --> 00:32:22.400
about the audience, and that should always be

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.720
the focus. Come on, just jump out there with

00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.420
crazy concepts or whatever, thinking that, you

00:32:29.420 --> 00:32:30.839
know, they're going to go and get the bag from

00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.160
a Spotify store and it doesn't work like that

00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.779
or whatever. You have to build and cultivate

00:32:35.779 --> 00:32:37.220
an audience because at the end of the day, the

00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:39.660
people want to tune into it because it has value

00:32:39.660 --> 00:32:42.579
to them. It's changing their life. and being

00:32:42.579 --> 00:32:45.680
meaningful in some type of way. Right. So I don't

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.859
feel like it's always that way because the numbers

00:32:46.859 --> 00:32:48.359
don't even show it. I mean you got five million

00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.039
podcasts on Apple alone with only 500 ,000 are

00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.220
actually active. Right. That's across every genre.

00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:56.240
You see what I'm saying? It'd be different if

00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.259
you got five million podcasts on Apple and three

00:32:59.259 --> 00:33:01.579
million of them are active. Right. You got some

00:33:01.579 --> 00:33:03.640
people that their stuff is just they ain't put

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.579
out an episode in years so it's not active anymore

00:33:06.579 --> 00:33:09.039
so they no longer have an audience. And I learned

00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.420
that when I stopped releasing my audio episodes

00:33:11.420 --> 00:33:15.339
and I was just doing video I lost my audio audience

00:33:15.339 --> 00:33:19.059
And I'm building it big Just gonna piggyback

00:33:19.059 --> 00:33:21.920
off of that too when you said that because when

00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:27.480
I first started I was video I was video had a

00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.799
big audience I'm talking about when I used to

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.940
because the platform that I stream from I can

00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:36.220
go live on YouTube Instagram and all that at

00:33:36.220 --> 00:33:43.839
the same time And on Facebook, my life, it used

00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.180
to get hundreds of views, but when I go look

00:33:49.180 --> 00:33:54.380
at my insights, I'd be having like 102K views

00:33:54.380 --> 00:33:55.819
and things like that, you know what I'm saying?

00:33:56.180 --> 00:34:01.599
And then when I switch from video to audio, and

00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.880
when the pod being trying to run it like a radio

00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:10.349
station, I lost. Yeah. Now that I'm back videoing

00:34:10.349 --> 00:34:12.809
and trying to build back up that momentum over

00:34:12.809 --> 00:34:16.429
there on my Facebook, it's like, it's slow. It's

00:34:16.429 --> 00:34:20.369
slow. Yeah, it is. You know, had I known what

00:34:20.369 --> 00:34:22.030
I know now, I would have been able to like, you

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:24.409
know, go back in time and tell myself this is

00:34:24.409 --> 00:34:26.210
the strategy that you got to use or whatever

00:34:26.210 --> 00:34:28.110
to rebuild. But the fact that you're able to

00:34:28.110 --> 00:34:29.309
build something, the fact that I was able to

00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:32.210
build something to the numbers that we did is

00:34:32.210 --> 00:34:36.820
amazing in itself. So now we know how to build,

00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:38.400
at least we have the experience of knowing how

00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.519
to build. I like, you know what I'm saying, the

00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.360
new people who are jumping into it, they have

00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.519
no earthly idea what they're doing whatsoever.

00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.440
And then like you said, there's situations where

00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.800
people create stuff, because I saw this other

00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.460
person I want to talk to, she spent 10 grand

00:34:55.460 --> 00:34:58.840
on video podcasts, but when I go to her YouTube

00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.739
page, it's four years old, and on her first season,

00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.250
and she had posted on threads. And I thought

00:35:05.250 --> 00:35:07.409
it was fascinating because people were talking

00:35:07.409 --> 00:35:09.170
about, oh my God, you're spending $10 ,000. I'm

00:35:09.170 --> 00:35:10.769
like, y 'all understand everything you have to

00:35:10.769 --> 00:35:13.570
do. All this stuff isn't for free. You can't

00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:15.590
expect people to execute your vision for free,

00:35:15.849 --> 00:35:17.710
especially if you don't have the skill set. And

00:35:17.710 --> 00:35:19.349
even if you have the skill set to do everything,

00:35:19.489 --> 00:35:22.449
it's going to take way longer. So why waste time

00:35:22.449 --> 00:35:24.750
when you can outsource some of the jobs, not

00:35:24.750 --> 00:35:29.849
all, but some? But you can tell when it's a situation

00:35:29.849 --> 00:35:34.230
like you had, where If she's fine, she's financing

00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:36.210
everything and she alcohols and stuff like that,

00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:38.110
but they're benefiting from the brand recognition.

00:35:38.449 --> 00:35:40.610
They're benefiting when people book them for

00:35:40.610 --> 00:35:42.289
opportunities. They're not putting money back

00:35:42.289 --> 00:35:44.789
into her pocket. They're keeping that money for

00:35:44.789 --> 00:35:49.429
themselves. But you have a great concept that

00:35:49.429 --> 00:35:52.110
can do numbers. It has the potential to do millions,

00:35:52.469 --> 00:35:54.989
but it will never get there because of the way

00:35:54.989 --> 00:35:56.489
that, you know what I'm saying? Everybody, like

00:35:56.489 --> 00:36:00.429
you said, everyone is not into your vision. Everyone

00:36:00.429 --> 00:36:02.889
doesn't, you know what I'm saying? see it. They

00:36:02.889 --> 00:36:07.070
say they do, but I tell people, you ain't got

00:36:07.070 --> 00:36:09.510
no skin in the game. You ain't gonna do nothing

00:36:09.510 --> 00:36:11.690
for me. You ain't gonna do nothing for me. You

00:36:11.690 --> 00:36:13.030
gotta have skin in the game. You gotta have some

00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:16.590
type of skin in the game to where if you don't

00:36:16.590 --> 00:36:18.530
put up, it's going to hurt you like it will hurt

00:36:18.530 --> 00:36:24.110
me. Yeah. So I guess all that combination and

00:36:24.110 --> 00:36:26.170
experience and stuff like that, is that what

00:36:26.170 --> 00:36:28.889
led you to start writing this stuff and then

00:36:28.889 --> 00:36:30.309
start working on, you know what I'm saying, being

00:36:30.309 --> 00:36:34.360
an author? No, it was crazy because I wasn't

00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:36.860
even thinking about being an author. My best

00:36:36.860 --> 00:36:39.800
friend was like, I was going through something

00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.519
and she was like, successful girl, you need to

00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.420
write a book. So I was like, girl, I hate writing,

00:36:47.500 --> 00:36:51.719
because in school, I hate writing essays. So

00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.199
she was like, I was like, girl, I hate writing.

00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.059
She was like, I said, and I wouldn't even know

00:36:57.059 --> 00:37:01.199
where to start. a book I'm thinking like when

00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:03.500
you write a book I'm like thinking on a big scale

00:37:03.500 --> 00:37:05.900
I'm not thinking like independent you know I'm

00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:09.280
saying so she was like girl just either get your

00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.820
laptop I get you a folder notebook folder and

00:37:12.820 --> 00:37:15.980
just start writing just start writing she was

00:37:15.980 --> 00:37:19.380
like you have been through some shit girl so

00:37:19.380 --> 00:37:23.019
just writing about your life so I took her advice

00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:26.400
and I literally like I wrote down everything

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.340
that I can remember from the age five years old,

00:37:30.539 --> 00:37:33.239
because I was 40 at the time. So I wrote from

00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.059
the age five years old up until I was 40 years

00:37:36.059 --> 00:37:40.179
old. So with that, I was just writing, writing,

00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:42.699
writing, telling my side of the stories because

00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:47.059
I don't have friends that I end up like backstabbing

00:37:47.059 --> 00:37:50.219
them with sleeping with their boyfriend or something.

00:37:50.539 --> 00:37:53.280
But when they told their story, I'm the type

00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.739
of person like Whoever tell their story first,

00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.860
that's who they gonna believe. So it don't make

00:37:57.860 --> 00:37:59.659
sense for me to even try to come out and tell

00:37:59.659 --> 00:38:02.980
my story on why I did it. So when I finally wrote

00:38:02.980 --> 00:38:05.739
my book, I literally put all that in my book.

00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:09.019
I finally told my side of the story and things

00:38:09.019 --> 00:38:12.159
like that. So now when people read it, they be

00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.199
like, I can tell this was a venting session for

00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.659
you. And I was like, yeah, I just put everything

00:38:18.659 --> 00:38:20.940
that I was holding in and I put it out there

00:38:20.940 --> 00:38:23.510
in the book. How did that book do for you as

00:38:23.510 --> 00:38:25.269
far as like, you know, did you have any expectations

00:38:25.269 --> 00:38:30.570
or no cuz I ain't gonna lie like in in Florida

00:38:30.570 --> 00:38:34.050
in West Palm Beach like Motherfuckers don't like

00:38:34.050 --> 00:38:38.380
me. Okay. I Love it They don't like me because

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:41.079
the bitches that I used to be friends with like

00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:44.639
it was they kind of like had had a name So it's

00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.559
like they only know me because I was hanging

00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.380
with them So whatever like I said, whatever story

00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:51.719
they told like that's who they gravitated to

00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.679
or whatever So this is don't like me or I used

00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:56.800
to fuck they mean because I'm gonna like I used

00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.980
to be a hoe I was supposed to innocent so bitch

00:38:59.980 --> 00:39:02.139
I didn't give a fuck about none of them bitches,

00:39:02.139 --> 00:39:08.289
but um When I wrote it, I was like, I don't even

00:39:08.289 --> 00:39:14.110
know how to put this out there. So I sold the

00:39:14.110 --> 00:39:19.429
unedited version of it. I sold over 100 copies

00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:24.449
of me just on social media stating I finished

00:39:24.449 --> 00:39:29.730
my book and I'm selling it for $2 .99, but it's

00:39:29.730 --> 00:39:34.110
just the PDF. It's just the manuscript, unedited,

00:39:34.369 --> 00:39:38.659
wrong. So when I put that out there, like people

00:39:38.659 --> 00:39:40.599
was buying it like crazy and I was selling it

00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:46.000
for $2 .99 and I sold over 100 copies with just

00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:51.780
that long. So then I seen Miami Tip when she

00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:55.059
published her first book, I inboxed her. I said,

00:39:55.380 --> 00:39:59.900
hey, how did you... get your book on amazon and

00:39:59.900 --> 00:40:03.820
she's the one that told me what to do so i found

00:40:03.820 --> 00:40:08.260
somebody that edited for me to make it you know

00:40:08.260 --> 00:40:13.219
more polished yeah and once they did that i uploaded

00:40:13.219 --> 00:40:16.480
it to amazon and i had it on amazon i just took

00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:20.039
it off amazon this year because i was collaborating

00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:24.389
with someone that was I'm gonna rewrite it because

00:40:24.389 --> 00:40:26.849
like I said, they was like this sound like just

00:40:26.849 --> 00:40:30.989
a bit of Vincent section so they're gonna Rewrite

00:40:30.989 --> 00:40:33.829
it for me to make it more polished and then I'm

00:40:33.829 --> 00:40:37.090
gonna relaunch it. But for now, yes, I still

00:40:37.090 --> 00:40:42.829
have a couple um, I Have a couple copies on hand.

00:40:42.929 --> 00:40:46.869
So this is how it look Okay secret she kept in

00:40:46.869 --> 00:40:50.460
the last she told so that's what's up. Yeah I

00:40:50.460 --> 00:40:51.880
like the fact that you've been doing all these

00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.059
different projects though. Like, you know, I

00:40:54.059 --> 00:40:55.699
don't know if you've looked at like the statistics,

00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.539
I've interviewed authors, I've interviewed book

00:40:59.539 --> 00:41:03.639
dealers or brokers, agencies, publishing agencies,

00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:07.699
and they tell me that only 1 % of authors who

00:41:07.699 --> 00:41:12.719
actually write actually publish. The 99 other

00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:14.900
percent do not even, they're right, but they

00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:18.260
won't ever publish. So when you was able to...

00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.059
get that hurdle, right? Yeah. The other hurdle

00:41:21.059 --> 00:41:24.900
is that in an author's lifetime, this is, I got

00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:26.960
the interview, I have to go back and find it

00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:29.099
so I can send it to you or I'll even clip it

00:41:29.099 --> 00:41:33.360
into this somehow. He told me book statistics

00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:38.219
when it comes to the publishing side of it, only,

00:41:38.619 --> 00:41:41.599
what is it? Oh, most authors, like majority,

00:41:41.820 --> 00:41:44.500
90 something percent is a high number, high staggering

00:41:44.500 --> 00:41:51.260
number. Do not sell More than 100 copies of their

00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:56.519
book in their lifetime. Oh Wow So you did something

00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:59.920
you you're in the top echelon of selling? Yeah,

00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:04.099
because that in The hundred plus was me just

00:42:04.099 --> 00:42:06.619
putting selling the manuscript to the random

00:42:06.619 --> 00:42:09.460
people and they read in my script where I'm talking

00:42:09.460 --> 00:42:11.980
about where all the incorrect spelling and everything.

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.840
And then when I put it on Amazon, I really can't

00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:18.840
keep up what I was. I was getting some dividend

00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:23.019
checks, some royalties from it. So, yeah. Yeah.

00:42:23.019 --> 00:42:25.260
So you've been able to accomplish a lot of stuff,

00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:27.639
ma 'am. So if no one's ever told you how successful

00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:31.000
you've been compared to the statistics out there,

00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:34.150
you've done a lot and congratulations on being

00:42:34.150 --> 00:42:37.670
able to just to execute and to do stuff like

00:42:37.670 --> 00:42:44.230
that. Thank you. You're welcome. So you've been

00:42:44.230 --> 00:42:46.489
doing all this stuff right and now you got the

00:42:46.489 --> 00:42:50.170
panel with the podcast. How's that been going?

00:42:51.130 --> 00:42:54.969
Do you think that will be in the plans for like

00:42:54.969 --> 00:42:57.949
you know a longer run and then also what do you

00:42:57.949 --> 00:43:02.619
plan on doing going forward? Okay, so I really

00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:06.099
feel like the script show because I'm really

00:43:06.099 --> 00:43:10.800
with genuine people and That's who God told me

00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.460
to choose to do it with And they are people that

00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:19.420
either on my production team or they actors in

00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:24.380
my movies So we all have a bond and all us don't

00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:27.159
bite our tongue. We say what's real We don't

00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:29.179
beat around the bush to each other. So that's

00:43:29.179 --> 00:43:32.860
why I felt like this would be perfect. So that's

00:43:32.860 --> 00:43:35.500
why we named it the Offscript Show because, baby,

00:43:35.539 --> 00:43:37.300
we be all over the place. We don't stick to,

00:43:37.340 --> 00:43:40.099
we don't have topics. Everybody come on there

00:43:40.099 --> 00:43:43.800
with their own questions or they see a story

00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.900
that they want to talk about. Like we don't have

00:43:46.900 --> 00:43:50.880
a topic that we be talking about. So I feel like

00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.219
that is going to grow. It's going to do really

00:43:53.219 --> 00:43:59.340
good. Now, my focus is I rebrand my hair growth

00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:04.739
oil. So that is out right now. It's doing good.

00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:06.920
I'm looking for ambassadors and all that stuff.

00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:16.659
I have a distribution already won. She does dreads,

00:44:16.659 --> 00:44:19.099
so she's going to be selling my hair growth oil.

00:44:19.389 --> 00:44:21.889
in her shop. So once I come down to Florida,

00:44:22.210 --> 00:44:24.329
I will be dropping off to have a thought down

00:44:24.329 --> 00:44:31.110
there. What else? Oh, my films. So the story

00:44:31.110 --> 00:44:33.510
about my life, The Secret She Kept Lies Toe,

00:44:33.710 --> 00:44:37.590
I filmed the movie for it, but I didn't release

00:44:37.590 --> 00:44:41.769
it. I had to scrap it because the acting in it

00:44:41.769 --> 00:44:47.130
was not what you wanted. Yeah. So. I'm gonna

00:44:47.130 --> 00:44:51.010
reshoot it next year July. So right now the next

00:44:51.010 --> 00:44:53.309
film that I'm shooting is called Granny's Block.

00:44:53.469 --> 00:44:56.530
It's an urban comedy where four grannies is gonna

00:44:56.530 --> 00:44:58.570
be taking over the block. Instead of having the

00:44:58.570 --> 00:45:01.170
YNs or the OGs taking over the block, we gonna

00:45:01.170 --> 00:45:03.849
have the granny OGs taking over the block. That

00:45:03.849 --> 00:45:07.269
should be very interesting. And that would be

00:45:07.269 --> 00:45:10.369
filmed, we start filming that in January and

00:45:10.369 --> 00:45:15.880
it will be filming in Atlanta. Really? When you

00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:18.239
do that, because I'm not that far from Atlanta.

00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:23.340
Okay. The dates are January the 22nd through

00:45:23.340 --> 00:45:27.719
the 25th. Matter of fact, grab me access to get

00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:29.300
like, you know what I'm saying, behind the scenes

00:45:29.300 --> 00:45:32.719
and stuff like that. Thank you. Yes, come on.

00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.699
Bring your podcast stuff and you can tap into

00:45:36.699 --> 00:45:40.579
the actors and everything. Yes. So yeah, I'm

00:45:40.579 --> 00:45:42.760
going to shoot you my number so we stay in contact

00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.619
every day. Because I definitely want to do like

00:45:45.619 --> 00:45:49.239
more content, stuff like that. Some stuff like,

00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.559
you know, because, you know, as I know, as we

00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.460
get into podcasting and production and all that

00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:55.159
stuff, we started doing all these other ventures

00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.920
and things. And what had initially started off

00:45:57.920 --> 00:45:59.940
as a radio show for me has turned into almost

00:45:59.940 --> 00:46:02.619
a full -fledged production company now, to where

00:46:02.619 --> 00:46:06.059
I just got through shooting a reality show. And

00:46:06.059 --> 00:46:09.440
it's dropping next month. It's a positive reality

00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.099
show. It's kind of bouncing around the A. and

00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:16.559
it's about an inflatable business company and

00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:19.480
it's family oriented. I'm gonna shoot you the

00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:21.260
Instagram problem and she just released it today.

00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:23.320
I'm so happy because I had to be, I had to sit

00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.639
on, you know, you got some days and other stuff.

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.019
And I had to sit on, I worked all this summer,

00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.659
all this footage, editing and stuff like that,

00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:34.159
coming up with different shots. And you know,

00:46:34.179 --> 00:46:39.039
it was a one man camera operation, me. But. It

00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:41.960
is come together and it's been the biggest project

00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:47.519
I have taken on stressful but very rewarding

00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.659
I have a question uh -huh when you came up with

00:46:51.659 --> 00:46:55.159
the idea of a positive reality show and I'm asking

00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.800
this because I'm gonna tell you what happened

00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.900
with me so when you came up with that concept

00:47:01.900 --> 00:47:07.110
you get anyone that was downing and like, uh,

00:47:07.449 --> 00:47:11.429
right now people like drama. So I'll tell you

00:47:11.429 --> 00:47:14.889
this, I didn't come up with the actual idea of

00:47:14.889 --> 00:47:17.130
the show. I helped her execute it. So there was

00:47:17.130 --> 00:47:19.849
a, she's an actual artist and she has her inflatable

00:47:19.849 --> 00:47:24.050
business. But I saw, I know what you're saying

00:47:24.050 --> 00:47:27.630
though, because the people who I did let know

00:47:27.630 --> 00:47:29.269
that I was working on something like that. I

00:47:29.269 --> 00:47:31.369
couldn't tell them exactly what it was, but that

00:47:31.369 --> 00:47:35.050
I told them the concept of it. And yes, people

00:47:35.050 --> 00:47:37.050
will say, well, you know, people want drama,

00:47:37.170 --> 00:47:39.530
drama, drama. And I'm like, yes, I understand

00:47:39.530 --> 00:47:42.630
that. But that's not the only like I'm a business

00:47:42.630 --> 00:47:44.110
person at the end of day because of the reason

00:47:44.110 --> 00:47:46.670
business with a concentration of marketing. So

00:47:46.670 --> 00:47:48.289
I look at data. I don't listen to what people

00:47:48.289 --> 00:47:51.550
say. Right. I look at data. Data will tell you

00:47:51.550 --> 00:47:55.590
all the time. And data tells you that there is

00:47:55.590 --> 00:47:58.530
a space for everyone to pull off everything.

00:47:59.130 --> 00:48:02.840
You just have to find your people. Exactly. And

00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:05.099
people don't always want to look at, I don't

00:48:05.099 --> 00:48:07.940
like, I had to learn how to shoot reality show

00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:09.880
and stuff like that based off of watching them

00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:12.380
and talking with various people who's done it.

00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:15.820
But I don't absorb reality TV show because I

00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:20.139
don't want that in my system. So I'll go watch

00:48:20.139 --> 00:48:24.440
positive stuff. And you know, there's nothing

00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.860
wrong with positive things. Like even when I

00:48:26.860 --> 00:48:30.840
built Bank That Radio Show, I made it a couple

00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.099
of things were intentional. I never wanted to

00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:37.739
do interviews and always harp on the negative

00:48:37.739 --> 00:48:42.059
of stuff or try to be like Wendy Williams or

00:48:42.059 --> 00:48:43.559
Charlamagne and Gollard and things like that

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:45.400
because when you put yourself out there like

00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.719
that, you're branded as that. I want people to

00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:53.039
come back and they absorb. And people, they sit

00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:56.460
there and watch these interviews that I have

00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:59.710
years later. Like I still have comments on stuff

00:48:59.710 --> 00:49:01.769
because everything is still posted on Facebook.

00:49:02.309 --> 00:49:06.309
Everything is still posted on Instagram and YouTube

00:49:06.309 --> 00:49:09.170
as my platforms are where I'm pushing the material.

00:49:10.050 --> 00:49:14.309
And it is amazing to see me doing an interview

00:49:14.309 --> 00:49:18.869
five years about someone who sells pies. People

00:49:18.869 --> 00:49:22.849
comment on it. And that's how I wanted to always

00:49:22.849 --> 00:49:25.070
build the platform. Now, will I talk about some

00:49:25.070 --> 00:49:27.969
stuff? Yes, but it's not in the... It's not in

00:49:27.969 --> 00:49:31.269
the same light. And I don't believe in that whole

00:49:31.269 --> 00:49:34.130
negative stuff. I really don't. I just don't.

00:49:34.190 --> 00:49:37.150
I don't want to be known for that. And it's crazy

00:49:37.150 --> 00:49:39.369
because when I built Successful Toy Podcast,

00:49:39.630 --> 00:49:42.090
that was my vision. I was like, I do not want

00:49:42.090 --> 00:49:45.090
to focus on nothing negative. I don't care who

00:49:45.090 --> 00:49:51.500
come on my platform. Beef they got or what's

00:49:51.500 --> 00:49:53.860
gonna bring in numbers? I don't care. I want

00:49:53.860 --> 00:49:56.760
to focus on what's what they got going on positive

00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:59.639
in a life I don't care about none of that stuff

00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:05.539
and That that was that's me like with my the

00:50:05.539 --> 00:50:09.400
off script show I have somebody on there that

00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:14.980
He tried to bring up something that I had That

00:50:14.980 --> 00:50:19.119
I went through Had to tell him I said this platform

00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.760
is not for that. We're not here to bash anybody

00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.380
I don't left it alone. So I want you to leave

00:50:24.380 --> 00:50:27.400
it alone. I'm not highlighting or giving nobody

00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.960
that exposure of Talking negative about them.

00:50:31.380 --> 00:50:35.519
I already handled it. I did what I did and As

00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:39.079
that so when it comes over here if we're not

00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.260
talking about our own business We're not going

00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:43.300
to talk about nobody else business like I just

00:50:43.610 --> 00:50:47.429
don't want to. And then I also had joined forces

00:50:47.429 --> 00:50:52.550
with this lady. She started a podcast to where

00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:56.070
we was talking about reality shows doing like

00:50:56.070 --> 00:50:59.610
our reviews on it. But it was training to me

00:50:59.610 --> 00:51:02.929
because it's like, I used to be a baddie's fan.

00:51:03.510 --> 00:51:08.190
But now they fight so much on there to it's like

00:51:08.190 --> 00:51:11.969
it's training. It was my energy. So I was like,

00:51:12.549 --> 00:51:15.190
Yeah, I can't watch this too much long. And then

00:51:15.190 --> 00:51:18.050
it's like, when I do come across it, if I ain't

00:51:18.050 --> 00:51:20.230
got nothing to do and I just watch it, like,

00:51:20.329 --> 00:51:24.690
I don't want to have to wait a whole week to

00:51:24.690 --> 00:51:26.809
talk about it. Like, the show come out on a Sunday,

00:51:26.889 --> 00:51:29.210
but then our next show into Friday. So now I

00:51:29.210 --> 00:51:31.849
got to, like, it was just too much. So I was

00:51:31.849 --> 00:51:34.210
like, if I'm gonna watch something like that,

00:51:34.210 --> 00:51:35.809
I just want to watch it and forget about it.

00:51:35.809 --> 00:51:38.230
I don't want to elaborate about it. So. Yeah,

00:51:38.329 --> 00:51:40.590
is that setting up a fee with it? Like, you know,

00:51:40.630 --> 00:51:42.820
like I said, I don't mind talking about like,

00:51:42.820 --> 00:51:43.699
you know what I'm saying, some things, because

00:51:43.699 --> 00:51:45.679
I've even like, you know, I've gotten some situations

00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.320
where, you know, I want to talk about things

00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:48.639
that have happened with people and even with

00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:52.260
myself, but the light isn't spun to where, you

00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:53.639
know what I'm saying, that's what it's all about.

00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:55.739
It's about showing, because it's like with any

00:51:55.739 --> 00:51:57.139
great storytelling, you know what I'm saying,

00:51:57.260 --> 00:51:59.579
there's always going to be ups and downs. Right.

00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.320
But at the end of the day, you want to show the

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.920
positivity in like the outcome of how they are

00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:08.170
able to overcome the endowment. overcome, you

00:52:08.170 --> 00:52:09.809
know what I'm saying, the trap or whatever the

00:52:09.809 --> 00:52:12.730
case may be, overcome the beef. That's what your,

00:52:12.730 --> 00:52:14.250
you know what I'm saying, focus, that's what

00:52:14.250 --> 00:52:17.289
the in focus goal should be, not, oh, what you

00:52:17.289 --> 00:52:19.210
beefing and blah, blah, blah, and it just gets

00:52:19.210 --> 00:52:21.050
out of hand. I'm like, come on, nobody wants

00:52:21.050 --> 00:52:24.449
to consume all that. I'm like, I think as you

00:52:24.449 --> 00:52:26.909
get older, you're supposed to mature and become

00:52:26.909 --> 00:52:29.050
wiser, but you know, some people, it's the mentality.

00:52:29.489 --> 00:52:32.820
It's not the age. Maturity is in... the mentality,

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:35.239
not age. That's how I believe because you got

00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.400
people that's 60 years old, 50 years old who

00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:42.500
still go through life and you know they're coming

00:52:42.500 --> 00:52:45.900
from a space of it's always negative and rah

00:52:45.900 --> 00:52:49.059
rah rah rah rah as opposed to what are you building?

00:52:49.300 --> 00:52:51.119
What legacy are you going to leave behind? You

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.099
know what I'm saying? How are you going to be

00:52:52.099 --> 00:52:54.539
known because you've been on this earth for so

00:52:54.539 --> 00:52:57.619
long anyway? Right. So how are you going to be

00:52:57.619 --> 00:53:05.929
impactful to others? I had asked that question

00:53:05.929 --> 00:53:10.750
because I came up with a concept for a reality

00:53:10.750 --> 00:53:13.949
show and I wanted to focus on entrepreneurs.

00:53:14.730 --> 00:53:19.449
And the person told me, you have to think nobody's

00:53:19.449 --> 00:53:21.010
gonna watch anything that's positive. Because

00:53:21.010 --> 00:53:22.809
I was like, I wanna focus on the positive side

00:53:22.809 --> 00:53:25.969
of the entrepreneurs, not bring them on a show

00:53:25.969 --> 00:53:29.219
and basically making them this great. this grade

00:53:29.219 --> 00:53:33.539
they self and then degrade they self and then

00:53:33.539 --> 00:53:35.159
they don't, people really don't even know what

00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:38.079
they do because those baddies literally be having

00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.719
some positive stuff going on in their life. If

00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:43.179
you don't follow them, you won't even know that

00:53:43.179 --> 00:53:46.940
you have a business or something. It's like what?

00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.960
So I wanted to create something like this. I'll

00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.920
tell you what I've done in my experience, right?

00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.340
I have interviewed hundreds of entrepreneurs,

00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.039
one because I'm an entrepreneur myself. My platform

00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:01.619
has actually benefited from interviewing entrepreneurs

00:54:01.619 --> 00:54:03.920
and talking about their journey in entrepreneurship.

00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.760
People do watch that because entrepreneurship

00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.760
isn't cookie cutter. And what you learn from

00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.079
one piece, from a person, you might learn something

00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.820
else from another. And I've interviewed and shown

00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:19.960
that we as people, just our community, we're

00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.260
not monolithic. We're diverse in all sorts of

00:54:23.260 --> 00:54:25.340
entrepreneurial ways as far as the industries.

00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:28.280
right and I'm always looking for you know I'm

00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.480
saying someone who's doing something that's different

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.400
because you know we have the barbershops and

00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.679
then the music and the entertainment we also

00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.619
have the tech and you know I'm saying the rocket

00:54:37.619 --> 00:54:41.380
ships and mathematic uh you know companies that

00:54:41.380 --> 00:54:43.860
people are creating and you know whatever else

00:54:43.860 --> 00:54:47.639
we all have uh shared experiences to a certain

00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:50.280
degree and then we have other interests and stuff

00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.239
like this so people tune into the information

00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:54.380
I'm like if that was the case it wouldn't be

00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:56.840
plastered everywhere. Every time my new feed

00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.920
pulls up, it's something new with entrepreneurs

00:54:59.920 --> 00:55:02.360
and businesses and things of that nature. And

00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:05.400
then also, I did a show called The Ugly Side

00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.500
of Entrepreneurship, where I talk about their

00:55:07.500 --> 00:55:12.199
pain points in more specific detail. But towards

00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:17.400
the end of the show, it's to show what entrepreneurs

00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.079
have to go through to get to the point where

00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:24.429
they support themselves. But also, How did you

00:55:24.429 --> 00:55:28.030
come over that hump and that hurdle? And what

00:55:28.030 --> 00:55:29.710
are you doing now? You know what I'm saying?

00:55:29.849 --> 00:55:31.110
And the highlights, you know what I'm saying?

00:55:31.309 --> 00:55:34.269
At the end, what they're doing, how they was

00:55:34.269 --> 00:55:37.530
able to overcome it and, you know, really become

00:55:37.530 --> 00:55:39.550
successful. So, yeah, we might talk about, you

00:55:39.550 --> 00:55:41.690
know what I'm saying, the journey. But along

00:55:41.690 --> 00:55:43.869
the way, the journey, you know what I'm saying?

00:55:44.030 --> 00:55:48.309
There's a turning point. You create whatever

00:55:48.309 --> 00:55:50.789
your heart tells you to create because it's there

00:55:50.789 --> 00:55:53.599
for a reason. Right. and listen out and they

00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:56.099
say, I tell people all the time, one rule of

00:55:56.099 --> 00:55:58.539
thumb, when people bring ideas to me and they

00:55:58.539 --> 00:56:00.760
say, I think I wanna do this, I do that. The

00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.760
first thing I tell them, do it. Because you don't

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.659
know what's going to happen. It's not proven

00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:10.800
in the market yet. Now once you put it out there

00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.239
and if it hits the goals that you wanted to hit,

00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.900
cool, you were very lucky. Because far few in

00:56:16.900 --> 00:56:21.230
between does a person or able to achieve something

00:56:21.230 --> 00:56:23.570
that they initially set out to do on the first

00:56:23.570 --> 00:56:27.789
try. It doesn't happen like that. Those are like

00:56:27.789 --> 00:56:32.469
one in a gajillion chances. Everyone else, you

00:56:32.469 --> 00:56:35.590
apply things to it, the strategy and stuff. So

00:56:35.590 --> 00:56:38.130
you put stuff out there into the public. You

00:56:38.130 --> 00:56:40.250
see how their public responds. And if you want

00:56:40.250 --> 00:56:44.590
to continue that, you make adjustments. But to

00:56:44.590 --> 00:56:48.349
tell people not to try at all, that is the definition

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of failure. in my eyes. Failing is not trying.

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Failing is not doing at all because it's easy

00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:01.619
to fail. Right. Just like it's easy to quit.

00:57:02.380 --> 00:57:05.320
Some of the easiest things ever. Quit and fail.

00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.280
You fail by not trying. But if you're out there

00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:10.679
chasing stuff, no, you're successful because

00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.119
you're pursuing something and it doesn't have

00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.059
to hit all the markers that you want for it.

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Because you have no experience. You see what

00:57:21.460 --> 00:57:23.619
I'm saying? In that particular thing that you're

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doing. So there shouldn't be people's perception

00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:30.659
of, oh, well, that's not going to be successful.

00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.599
What is success? Right. You see what I'm saying?

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Success is waking up every day. You get to go

00:57:40.039 --> 00:57:42.159
to a podcast that you love to do. You get to

00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.380
write books. You get to film. You are successful

00:57:45.380 --> 00:57:48.050
right now. Yeah. I mean, people got to wake up

00:57:48.050 --> 00:57:50.989
and go to a job that they hate. I swear. You

00:57:50.989 --> 00:57:52.789
know how many people that have degrees that they

00:57:52.789 --> 00:57:56.289
don't even work in that area of expertise where

00:57:56.289 --> 00:58:01.230
they studied? Yeah. But 97 % of people in general.

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So yeah, I don't listen to all that stuff. I'll

00:58:04.929 --> 00:58:06.849
put that, I'll squash that real quick. And if

00:58:06.849 --> 00:58:08.630
I have people around me that's saying stuff like

00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:10.869
that, I just get rid of them. Yeah. When I tell

00:58:10.869 --> 00:58:15.659
you, the person that said that God made something

00:58:15.659 --> 00:58:17.960
happen to where them people ain't even around

00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.900
me anyway. So it was just like, nigga, why every

00:58:21.900 --> 00:58:24.340
time I bring something to you, you turn it down?

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And then it's like, are you really trying to

00:58:27.340 --> 00:58:29.920
help me for real? You claiming you want to be

00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.780
on my team and help me and all that, like, nah.

00:58:33.179 --> 00:58:35.619
Exactly, they're not really for you. But ma 'am,

00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:38.079
this has been a lovely conversation. Thank you.

00:58:38.500 --> 00:58:41.579
You're welcome. Thanks for having me. Oh, you're

00:58:41.579 --> 00:58:44.000
welcome. know plug your stuff let everybody know

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:45.440
you know say how can they get in contact because

00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.699
you do so much stuff now i've gotten to know

00:58:47.699 --> 00:58:50.699
you just in the sense of this hour and you offer

00:58:50.699 --> 00:58:53.340
way more than i initially thought so go ahead

00:58:53.340 --> 00:58:57.159
plug yourself so you guys can follow me and get

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to know me a little better on facebook at toy

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blackman follow my show the all script show on

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facebook and instagram You can follow my production

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company on Instagram success with toy production

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follow my hair growth or a variety of the Laura

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crown on Instagram and You can shop with me to

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get your merch. Are you successful and the meaning

00:59:23.030 --> 00:59:25.650
behind? Are you successful is are you successful?

00:59:25.889 --> 00:59:31.409
Are you successful? Meaning are you just success

00:59:31.409 --> 00:59:36.719
successful? Are you full of success? The ones

00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.780
that's successful, like you're doing anything

00:59:39.780 --> 00:59:43.699
for success, so you're chasing that success to

00:59:43.699 --> 00:59:48.019
get me successful. So me, I am full of success,

00:59:48.059 --> 00:59:50.420
as y 'all can see from this interview. So you

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can get your merch at www .successfultoyproduction

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.com. All my business is under one umbrella,

00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:01.960
so yes. That's what's up. Thank you, thank you,

01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:03.780
thank you. Y 'all go out there and y 'all support.

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upon the screen keep supporting the platform

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make that radio show across all social media

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and this has been a very very very lovely i've

01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.579
enjoyed this interview so y 'all make sure y

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'all keep on tuning in