Echoes of Defiance: The Sharlotta Experience

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Sharlotta is a powerhouse vocalist and creator

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from Fort Worth, Texas, an artist whose talent

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showed early and never stopped evolving. A music

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scholarship carried her into college, where her

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artistry expanded beyond singing into acting,

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earning her a Best Supporting Actress nomination

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at the prestigious Betty Buckley Awards. But

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Sharlotta's creativity doesn't stop on stage.

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She's also skilled in the fading craft of sewing,

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another testament to her dedication, discipline

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and artistry. Launching her professional career

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in 2014, Sharlotta faced the challenges that

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come with the music industry, yet every setback

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only sharpened her drive. Today, her music has

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been streamed thousands of times on Spotify,

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and she's more focused than ever. With renewed

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commitment and a mission grounded in healing,

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she's stepping into a new chapter, one defined

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by purpose, passion, and global aspirations.

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In this episode, we explore the journey, spirit,

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and unstoppable determination of Sharlotta an

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artist who refuses to quit and is ready to take

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her place on the world stage. Google Google and

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YouTube University is idealistically the best

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way to learn Alright y 'all, we're tuning in

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for another episode of Bankedoutt Radio Show.

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This is Music and Business Talk episode, and

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I have an independent recording artist, Hailing

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Allaway from Texas. We have Sharlotta. How you

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doing, ma 'am? Hello, I'm good. Alright, you

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were just saying, what part of Texas are you?

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You said Fort Worth area? Dallas, Fort Worth.

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Yes, sir. Okay. I've never been to Dallas, Fort

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Worth area. Actually, I've not been to Texas

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before. Oh, you've been throughout. Yeah, I might

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have to come out there one day. But from my understanding,

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is Dallas and Fort Worth, are they close in proximity?

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Yes. Dallas is about 25, 30 minutes away from

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Fort Worth. So it's like if you were going from

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Atlanta to Smyrna or Atlanta to Stone Mountain,

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probably about that same distance. Look at you,

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you've been to Georgia. It's been a while, but

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I've been there, yes sir. What you know about

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all that? A little bit, just a little bit. Okay,

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so I was going through your profile. One, I can

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tell that you really, really put a lot of effort

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and energy into your career. So let's dive into

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the background of like, you know, when did you

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get started and what was the inspiration for

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that? I've been singing my whole life. I went

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to school to sing performance music, like show

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choir music, to do musicals. And I went to school

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to vocalize scholarship college, but I've been

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singing long before that. But I've been in love

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with music my entire life. Forever. As far as

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like recording, I've been recording since about.

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2012, 2013, but I wasn't really serious then.

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But these last, I would say five, 10 years, I've

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been putting the work in, doing more. I have

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a whole bunch of sessions coming up this month.

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I already got a new single recorded that I'm

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about to release. We're getting some visuals

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out in 2026. So I'm just excited to keep it going

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and just to spread the music further throughout

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the US and throughout the world. Yeah, well you've

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been doing a really good job as far as I could

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tell. Like when I looked at your Spotify numbers,

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I was like, okay. But like, you know, $18 ,000

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on Showtime, which is a big deal. $12 ,000 on

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You Thought. And I was, where's the other ones

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I was looking at? Let me see if there are. Probably

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Intuition. Intuition does pretty well too. And

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I'm like, that is amazing because... I interview

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a lot of, yeah, 13 ,000. I interview a lot of

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independent artists and they can't even get numbers

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like this. So, yeah, you got to put it out there.

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I submit to a lot of playlists. I submit to a

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lot of playlists and my music distributor, Distro

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Kid, they have like a wheel of playlists to where

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you can submit your song every day for a playlist

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and people can choose it. uh submit hub there's

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just different websites that i go on and i'll

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submit the music uh with the mp3 separately and

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let people choose it if they want to or if they

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don't want to but i just make make it a point

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to make sure i post every day make sure i'm seen

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every day make sure somebody hears my music every

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day that's like the main thing and i'm going

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to rev it up in 2026 it'll be those numbers are

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going to be even better next year that's that's

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what's up so what made you like actually wouldn't

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like do music because you could have just you

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know recorded And you've been for yourself, but

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uh put it out there for the public to consume

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it. What made you want to take that initial step?

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Oh, man, because music heals people And those

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lyrics and the things that i'm singing about

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that can heal somebody like evil. I think that's

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like uh My most quote -unquote heartfelt song

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the people if you're if they're listening to

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the lyrics It can that can heal something inside

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of someone those songs can heal people Okay,

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so it's more than just, you know, putting your

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crap out there is actually about your, your why

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is bigger is to actually heal people and get

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people to be able to come over, overcome things.

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Right, right, to get over things or to, you know,

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when I wrote Showtime, I was in this space, like

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each song is, it's like I was in a different

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headspace in my life. And that the songs are

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a reflection of what I was going through. And

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that could, you know, that could possibly help

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somebody. I put it out because I love music and

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that's just what I do. And I'm not only a artist,

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I make clothes, I sew. I have a performance coming

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up next week. So I'm just trying to just get

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back into just putting myself out there, just

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having the courage to put my music out there

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again and not being scared. So why did you, it

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sounds like, you know, you took a little bit

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of a pause or a break. Am I correcting someone

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there? Yeah, you're correct. Why did you like

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I don't know sometimes it's hard to balance life

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in the music and I guess I'm just now getting

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to the point where I can where I can balance

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them both where I know I can go to the studio

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and record in Whatever's happening in my life

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is not gonna affect the music. I can't let it

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affect the music So I just gotta keep going gotta

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keep going. I definitely get that so when you

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started doing this like Your network of people

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that you have close to you You know family friends

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peers whomever How did they respond to you want

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to put yourself out there where they were like?

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Oh, no, I don't think you should do that or were

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they like, you know Gunho and nothing like it.

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Yeah my family they came to my last performance

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my aunt uncles my cousins. They all show up um

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a lot of people As much promo as I do some people

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still don't know that I do music Uh like the

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other day my friend's kids were like you sing

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bro We were all hanging out and they came in

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there, they had got on YouTube, but I don't know

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how they missed it, you know? But it's always

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funny when somebody finds my music that doesn't

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know that I perform, or I guess when I haven't

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made it known, or if they're not on the internet

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like that. That's a good feeling too, because

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they're so shook and surprised. But even without

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having to put the music in somebody's face, it's

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still discoverable and they're still happy about

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it. My people, they love it. They love it. They

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support me. I want to uh, I want to play a little

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bit of the showtime real quick and then I want

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to talk about the actual creation of it the process

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Like you said, you know, I know I can tell it

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has a backstory to it So yeah, this is showtime

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everybody. We're gonna listen to a little bit

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of it. We're gonna get right back into it All

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right Alright y 'all, that was Showtime by Charlotte.

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So y 'all make sure y 'all go, y 'all like these

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songs, play them, play them, play them. She's

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all over the social platforms. You just look

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up the name, S -H -A -R -L -O -T -T -A. That

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particular song, I like it because... What is

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talking about? So take us through like, you know

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what I'm saying? What were you going through

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at that time? A bad breakup? I figured. I was

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going through a bad breakup and I was like, how

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can I make this funny? You know, so obviously

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at the beginning where I'm talking like they

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love the circus because he basically had me in

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a circus. So that's why I was like jump. It's

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on fire now because you know, they used to have

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the hoops with the fire and stuff like that So

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that's why I said at the beginning, but I really

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wrote it about a breakup But that song and a

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lot of my other songs started off as freestyles

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on this app called voicy Okay, um, so I record

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like a little 30 second clip And then one day

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I just woke up and I had a different melody in

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my head and I was like I have to record this

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So I went to the studio. I brought my sister

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with me my twin I have a twin sister. I brought

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her with me and I let her lay the background

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and I released I released Showtime, but I ended

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up taking it down and re -releasing it because

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some of the credits were wrong. But that song

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is about about a breakup I went through and me

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trying to happily trying to happily get through

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it, you know? Yeah. So I look at it a different

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way. OK, this was the idea. Let's a twin. Does

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he ever like standing for you? No, no, no That

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would be hilarious no, can't she sing She can

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sing a little bit, but she can't sing like me.

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Oh, okay She'd be like a Milla Vanilla type thing

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or whatever she's Did she still does she still

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live in Texas or Yeah, yeah, I should definitely

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probably do some content like that. So You've

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been doing this for a while and then you also

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been doing it professionally for a while as well

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I'm like, uh, if my math is math and you said

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you went I guess around professional around 2014

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Yes, so 11 years Yeah, it's been it's been a

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while. It's been a while that I've been trying

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but like I said, I took a break I did it was

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some years that went by the where I didn't sing,

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you know I just started sewing a lot and just

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working and you know trying to be in the corporate

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world and I really miss music and I just can't

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leave it alone. So No, I'm here and I'm gonna

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keep Exactly. It sounds like you know when you

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have a when you have a talent So when you sing

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way better than a lot of these other people,

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but I guess that also goes back to like, you

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know, what was this? I'm sitting there looking

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at your Spotify bio and you was talking about

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like Texas Allstate Choir in 2006 and become

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a first chair soprano And I'm like, you know

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what? That is a big deal. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah

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I mean those days that was back in uh, that was

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back in 2000. That's how I got my scholarship

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for college That's how they gave me more scholarship

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money because of that the Texas Allstate Choir.

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So that was such a fun experience. I really tried

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for years to get first chair. And what was holding

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me back was I couldn't sight read. So when I

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learned how to sight read, it was over from there.

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And I'll never forget when they called my name

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and told me I had first chair. That was one of

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the best feelings of my life. But yeah, that

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was choral music. So I had to kind of transition

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from singing choral and show tunes and all the

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stuff that I was singing in college. over to

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pop and hip hop. So it's a different way you

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use your voice. It's just different, but it's

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still music and I still love it. Yeah, but I

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can tell with your voice or whatever, I can tell

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that you're trained just by listening to yourself.

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Because when I first started listening to your

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music, I was like, oh, yeah, that's definitely

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because that's why I wanted to do the interview.

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Like, I don't like bringing on artists that where

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you're welcome. They don't, you know, I'm sorry,

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they don't sound the same. They don't the quality

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of the vocals. It changes throughout the songs,

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yeah. Yeah. And you actually have a, you have

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a taunt to where, you know, you could be top

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tier. Some people could only, you know, I like

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to rate artists like A, B, C, D or whatever.

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Right. There's a lot of C -like. But they begin

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like A -type placements. So what has been some

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of the challenges you've had to overcome in,

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you know, for some of your career? I guess being

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iced out in the music community. Not getting

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invited to certain opportunities, but it was

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really my fault because I wasn't putting myself

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out there. I wasn't promoting myself. I wasn't

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doing shows. I wasn't. You can't just put the

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music out and hide in the background. People

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want to see you live. People want to hear how

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you came up with the songs. They want to see

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you. And it took me a while for that to click

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in my head. Like, oh, I have to actually, I got

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to actually get on the internet and promote this.

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I got to actually, you know, let my face be seen.

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So that's why I'm saying I'm going to have visuals

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next year, because I don't have any music videos

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yet. So yeah, that's the thing I was looking

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at for YouTube. Some visuals. Yeah. I'm like,

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I know some visuals would help me, but, you know,

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I don't know. I'm just nervous about it for a

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long time. I'm like, well, people can just listen

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to the music. But people want to see something

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too. What did you know? I can't remember. What

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did you ask me? I'm sorry. Oh, no, no. I was

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sitting there thinking like you didn't ever think

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of it like, you know what I'm saying? How you

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consume music is a consumer. Like, you know,

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you like to watch people videos and I'm sure

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you watched videos more stuff like that. So,

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oh, yeah, like it's a natural progression. Absolutely.

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Yep. Exactly. You know, and then now with social

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media taking off and being, you know what it

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is now, because back in 2014, social media was

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popping like it is now. So it was totally different.

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Exactly. So now you really got to get with the

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times or just get left behind. We realized and

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I'm like, okay, I got to get on TikTok. I got

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to, you know, I got to get somebody, one of these

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little dancers or something to start dancing

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behind my song or make something to make it go

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viral. You know, that's where I'm at now, working

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on something like that to make it go viral. So

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which platform has definitely taken over. You

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know, I always tell people when you start with

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the social media, you know what I'm saying, start

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with like two platforms and then work your way

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up. Excuse me. What two platforms are you leaning

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towards or are you like heavy in right now? Right

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now, I would say I'm trying to get heavy on TikTok.

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TikTok, I've been posting more of my music. I've

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posted my Spotify raps. I've been posting my

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songs on there. I didn't know how to work TikTok

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and I'm just now figuring that out. So TikTok,

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of course, my Instagram. I'm going to start posting

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on there more. I've been just doing the story

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thing, but I still get... I still have 5 ,000

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views for the last 30 days with no post at all.

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Just posting purely from the story. So I'm going

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to start posting actually on my page again on

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Instagram. But really Instagram, TikTok, and

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then Facebook is kind of, Facebook has been lighting

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up here lately. So those three, I have more than

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two. So those three have been kind of, kind of

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my main, my main areas. And then fourth would

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be where I'm trying to get more videos and stuff,

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YouTube. YouTube would be the last one I'm working

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on because I haven't really figured that one

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out yet. yeah so what do you think about like

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content creation nowadays and you know the role

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that it plays with artists pushing themselves

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oh my god it plays a huge role it plays a huge

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role that's what i'm trying to figure out now

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do you feel like you know artists how to create

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a niche and you know just how the niche of my

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music can coincide and make people listen to

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my music that's what i've been trying to figure

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out and it's a big deal Yes, it is. So being

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a woman in the industry and knowing how like

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it's still heavily dominated by men in the positions

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that they play within the industry. Have you

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had any like, you know, I guess brick walls as

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you ran into there or, you know, people trying

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to take advantage of you? No, not lately. Maybe

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when I was first starting off. Maybe like four

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or five years ago, I've ran into some unsavory

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characters, you know, at studios and stuff like

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that, but I'm not dumb. So it never worked on

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me, but they are those, those kinds of people,

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predatory people. They are definitely out here,

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uh, waiting to see their teeth in anybody. So,

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but I haven't had to deal with that. I've been

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really blessed. Uh, everybody that I work with

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on the engineers and producers, they're all respectable

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people. no funny stuff in the studio. It's a

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vibe. I'm there. I'm able to get my work done

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and go home. You know, I've never had to, I don't

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feel like I have to, I don't have to watch my

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back when I'm recording. You know, I'm not, I'm

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not in a situation like that. Thank God. Okay.

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That's what's up. I'm glad you've been able to

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have that experience. So would you say your perception

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of the music business is more of a, you know,

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good perspective because, you know, and the reason

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I asked this is because like, so the Diddy documentary

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just came out. Oh my god, I had to turn that

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off. I was just watching that yesterday. I think

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I'm gonna start from the middle of the first

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episode, but I had to turn that off. I was like,

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oh my god. Those type of things I think always

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give the industry a bad rep and I tell people

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that's not like the industry in its totality.

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Those are just people in certain situations manipulating

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things, but from your perspective as being a

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participant in it and also having this 11 -year

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career as a professional, what's your overall

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perspective of the industry? It can be grimy.

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It can be grimy. Those things do happen, but

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it's really about who you surround yourself with.

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It's really about who you surround yourself with,

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who's in your corner, your team, especially the

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people around you that are helping you with your

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music, your writers, your engineers, all that.

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It's really about who you have around you. Like

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you said before, I've been blessed to not have

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to deal with anything like that. I know that

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kind of stuff happens, but I don't, that's not

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my story. That's not my story. I haven't had

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any, I don't know. I haven't had any bad experiences

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like that. And if I ever felt weird or something

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like that, I immediately left and I wouldn't,

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I didn't really subject myself to anything past

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that point. I was able to see in the beginning,

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like, okay, wait, this is, this isn't right.

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You know, this isn't how this is supposed to

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go. And I removed myself. Do you feel that some

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people get blackballed in a sense because they

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don't go down paths that others try to urge them?

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Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Definitely. That

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definitely happened. Yeah. No, I understand that.

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And I think I've experienced that to a certain

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extent with just certain things. So then how

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would someone remme that as far as like you're

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still pursuing your career? So if, you know,

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you're like. What's your goal as far as like

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your career? Are you trying to like, you know,

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just be the biggest independent artist in the

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world or are you trying to like eventually get

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signed? I want to stay independent as long as

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possible. But if the opportunity was there for

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me to get signed up, I would definitely sign.

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I would definitely sign, even with all the stories

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that I know, even with all everything that I

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know about contracts and all that kind of stuff.

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I would still sign because that's the ultimate

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goal is to get a deal. Yes. and to be successful

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with my my ultimate goal is to be successful

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with my music i want my music to pay my bills

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i want my music to be all around the world and

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to make people happy um i wanted to do what it's

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what it's supposed to do that's why i make it

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you know for everybody's ears for everybody's

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heart do you think uh with that goal being in

00:20:02.710 --> 00:20:06.269
mind and with the integrity that you have you

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think it would be a harder road for you to do

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that or oh yeah Yeah, I definitely think so.

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It makes it a little harder having integrity.

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Yeah. I get that. So you say that you do some

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sewing and I also see on your thing you do ghost

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writing. So what do you be sewing? Like what

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are you making? Just random stuff. Literally.

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Oh my, I used to have it all on my TikTok. I

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took them down, but I make two piece sets. I

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make coats, puffer coats, puffer jackets, puffer

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vests. So what do you do with all this? You sell

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it, or? I've sold some of it before, but most

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of it I was just making, just posting it on TikTok.

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And then people would hit me up like, hey, is

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that for sale? And I sell it to them, or some

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of it I would keep. It just depends. Depends

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on how popular it was. So it's more of a hobby

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for you? It was just a hobby, yeah. More of a

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hobby. But it was the fun thing. I do like prom

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initiatives, like when different groups have

00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.279
prom dress drives. Like I'll go up there with

00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:08.480
my, I did, I did twice this past year where I

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go up there with my sewing machine and if there's

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something wrong with the dress or whatever the

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young lady has chosen, they can bring it over

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to my table and then I make the dress look nice

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and they have a prom dress. Now, I'm sure you

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probably wouldn't expect the man to know this,

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but do you use patterns like the McCalls and

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stuff like that or? Yeah, I use McCalls. This

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is exactly what I use. How do you know about

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that? See? How do you know about some McCalls?

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Let me tell you. When I was in high school, years

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ago, I worked at Cloth World, which got bought

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out by Joann's Fabrics and Crafts. And I did

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it for - Why? They just went out of business.

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You say what? They just went out of business,

00:21:49.730 --> 00:21:54.289
Joann. Well, no one sells really anymore. So

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I was there for a good year and a half, two years,

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something like that. And I learned about that.

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I learned about freight check and, you know,

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different textures of fabric and all that stuff.

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And like I said, the McCall's was a big, you

00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:10.559
know, pattern that, you know, people use. I even

00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.359
had some stuff done for me where I used to wear

00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:15.039
clothes. Yeah, McCall's is your clippity. Mm

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-hmm. Yep. Yep. See? You know your stuff. Look

00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:27.119
at you. Yeah. See? Oh, yeah. I just thought that

00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:28.940
was cool or whatever. And it made me think about

00:22:28.940 --> 00:22:30.579
that. I was like, OK, yeah, I know a little bit

00:22:30.579 --> 00:22:34.559
about someone and stuff like that. So on here

00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.960
ghost writing have you ghost written for a lot

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of people or? Not a lot of people but I've ghost

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written a couple rap songs for my homegirls I

00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:46.720
have they're they're all credited on my BMI in

00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.980
my district here I get a little money from from

00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:51.140
those songs when they get played. How do you

00:22:51.140 --> 00:22:54.160
like writing for other artists? How do I write?

00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:56.259
No, no, no say how do you like writing for other

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artists? Oh, it's fun. Oh, I love it. That's

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.579
real fun. We had went to a session together and

00:23:02.329 --> 00:23:04.029
She didn't know what she was going to do. And

00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:06.630
I came up with the melody. He came with the first

00:23:06.630 --> 00:23:08.630
verse. I came with the second verse. It was really

00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:11.170
fun. It was years ago, but she just put it out.

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I want to say this year or last year. And then

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I've done a lot of voiceover work. I don't have

00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:18.730
any of that on my Spotify. That's all on my old.

00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:22.059
Reverb nation, but like for interludes and stuff

00:23:22.059 --> 00:23:23.900
on people's albums like I know how to make fake

00:23:23.900 --> 00:23:26.319
different accents I'll send it to you. Yeah,

00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:28.319
you definitely have to do so I can check it out

00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:29.660
Yeah, I'll send it to you. I'll send it to you

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But I had to do the whole bunch of interludes

00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:35.319
for a rap album. This was back in 20 Had it been

00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:38.599
2012 2013 one of those years, but it's still

00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.059
on it's still up There's still honor you can

00:23:40.059 --> 00:23:41.519
still you can still hear me on there Then I've

00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.619
done a bunch of voicemails for businesses out

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here. Like I'm calling business I'm on a bunch

00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:51.589
of people's voicemails. So I am loving about

00:23:51.589 --> 00:23:53.869
you because you're diversifying the way that

00:23:53.869 --> 00:23:57.549
an artist can get paid and I've been talking

00:23:57.549 --> 00:23:59.869
to independent artists a long time and trying

00:23:59.869 --> 00:24:02.250
to tell them to do like stuff like this and also

00:24:02.250 --> 00:24:04.470
do commercials and jingles for small businesses

00:24:04.470 --> 00:24:08.730
that way they can get paid and you start building

00:24:08.730 --> 00:24:10.829
these relationships or connections and then you

00:24:10.829 --> 00:24:12.250
know I'm saying you can split the publishing

00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:15.000
or however you want to do it. Because it gets

00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.079
picked up in commercial spaces. You're going

00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:18.819
to get paid, they'll get paid, whatever. But

00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:21.400
it'll have something for that business that's

00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.599
unique to them, but also give a stream of income

00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:28.240
to the artist slash writer. And I'm like, I don't

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:31.160
understand why they're not doing this. Right.

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:34.579
It needs to be done, for sure. When you network

00:24:34.579 --> 00:24:36.700
and you're just talking with other independent

00:24:36.700 --> 00:24:39.960
artists, what are their mindsets? Like how are

00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:41.799
they viewing the industry? Are they thinking

00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.539
about doing stuff like this or do you turn them

00:24:44.539 --> 00:24:47.339
on to things? No, most people are just worried

00:24:47.339 --> 00:24:49.160
about like when I talk to other artists we talk

00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.720
about numbers We talk about plays. I've been

00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:55.440
having a lot of conversations about sync licensing

00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:59.980
But most people are just concentrating on their

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craft their song they're just in the moment.

00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.720
They're just there Trying to push whatever they

00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.660
have. They're not thinking about other avenues

00:25:08.460 --> 00:25:10.039
And if they're not thinking about it, if they're

00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:11.420
not talking about it, I'm not just going to bring

00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:15.380
that up. What else was I going to say to you?

00:25:15.579 --> 00:25:16.799
It was something else I was about to say. It

00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.480
was important. What did you ask? Ask me the question

00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:21.579
again. I'm sorry. Oh, no, it was about that.

00:25:21.579 --> 00:25:24.000
You know, how their perception, their mindset,

00:25:24.099 --> 00:25:25.920
you know what I'm saying? Because I get the feeling

00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:26.940
that, you know. A lot of people want to stay

00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:29.000
independent. A lot of people do want to stay

00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.839
independent. I'll say that. It's a lot of people

00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:35.250
that want to just be independent. Right. See,

00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:36.990
that's the thing that I think that's not talked

00:25:36.990 --> 00:25:41.009
about a lot. The first of all, I'm sure you remember

00:25:41.009 --> 00:25:43.369
when independent used to look was looked upon

00:25:43.369 --> 00:25:45.589
as like, oh, that's like, you know, what is that?

00:25:46.049 --> 00:25:51.509
Oh, yeah. And I used to tell people like, you

00:25:51.509 --> 00:25:54.549
know, I'm saying through manipulation and I said,

00:25:54.609 --> 00:25:56.250
because I remember like, I'll give you a story

00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:59.029
real quick. Oh, Jada Juice Man. He was independent,

00:25:59.190 --> 00:26:01.009
but he was also backed by Warner Brothers or

00:26:01.009 --> 00:26:02.930
no, Asylum. And they didn't really want him to

00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:04.490
talk about that and stuff like that. And you

00:26:04.490 --> 00:26:06.309
have different people. I think Little Flippa

00:26:06.309 --> 00:26:10.349
one time had a deal where he was like looked

00:26:10.349 --> 00:26:12.650
upon as independent, but, and it could have been

00:26:12.650 --> 00:26:14.390
for only one project or whatever. Cause I know

00:26:14.390 --> 00:26:17.809
he does independent now, but he was backed by

00:26:17.809 --> 00:26:19.769
a major, but they didn't want him to discuss

00:26:19.769 --> 00:26:23.500
him being backed by a major. Right, they want

00:26:23.500 --> 00:26:25.059
to make it look like he was still independent.

00:26:25.460 --> 00:26:28.279
Uh -huh, because it was a buzz word. Now everyone's

00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:29.940
talking about screaming independent, but I don't

00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:32.240
think no one's really talking about, okay, what

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.119
does independent look like and what structure,

00:26:35.380 --> 00:26:37.240
business structure, do you have to put in place

00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.059
to, you know, get to the point to where you have

00:26:41.059 --> 00:26:43.160
thousands of people? It's all on you. Yeah, independence

00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:44.940
is all on you. Exactly, and the responsibility.

00:26:45.099 --> 00:26:48.140
It's all your own, yeah. Exactly, from the administrative

00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:51.509
side. to the promo side to relationship building

00:26:51.509 --> 00:26:55.670
to networking with all these uh music supervisors

00:26:55.670 --> 00:26:58.369
program directors across the country and internationally

00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:03.250
i'm like knowing your analytics like uh do you

00:27:03.250 --> 00:27:05.470
uh like look at your analytics and stuff like

00:27:05.470 --> 00:27:10.589
that i do I do. They're doing very well on Facebook.

00:27:10.869 --> 00:27:12.589
YouTube is doing very well. I don't know how,

00:27:12.690 --> 00:27:15.690
because I haven't done anything on there. But

00:27:15.690 --> 00:27:20.650
my Facebook one is doing very, very well. I still

00:27:20.650 --> 00:27:22.329
need to push on there more, because I still need

00:27:22.329 --> 00:27:24.609
to get followers. I get more plays than I do

00:27:24.609 --> 00:27:26.250
followers. Like, it's really hard. Right now,

00:27:26.250 --> 00:27:27.789
I'm trying to figure out how to make people stay.

00:27:28.069 --> 00:27:29.589
They'll listen to the music, they'll play the

00:27:29.589 --> 00:27:31.369
music, they'll add me to the playlist. That's

00:27:31.369 --> 00:27:32.970
where the content comes in, because they don't

00:27:32.970 --> 00:27:36.980
know you as a person. Yeah, so I need to make

00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:40.960
myself more personable online. So that's what

00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:43.519
I'm working on now, coming up with some content

00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.980
creation or something like that. Do I need to

00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:48.539
be funny? What do I need to do to make people

00:27:48.539 --> 00:27:50.619
stay? Because they'll listen to you. Once they're

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:55.500
there, I got them. You give me the impression

00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:57.039
that, you know what I'm saying, you like to like

00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.400
joke around and stuff like that. And that's a

00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.220
part of your personality. So I think if you go

00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:03.759
down that lane, you should really explore that

00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.960
and, you know, let people see that. I'm going

00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.559
to try that. Yeah, do it. Oh, I got some movie

00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.200
plays. I mean, I'm going to be in a movie. Well,

00:28:10.259 --> 00:28:13.640
three of my songs are going to be in a, uh, in

00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.039
a Tubi movie. Oh, that's what's up. I just signed

00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.220
for that. Mm hmm. In a Tubi movie. It'll be You

00:28:19.220 --> 00:28:24.200
Thought, Evil and, um... The song called We See

00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:25.940
You. All three of those are gonna be in a movie.

00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:30.779
Okay, those movies dropping next year? I believe

00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:33.039
so. Let me look at my email so I can give you

00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.819
the name of it. Give me one second. Yeah, go

00:28:34.819 --> 00:28:38.779
ahead. Let's see here. So while you're doing

00:28:38.779 --> 00:28:41.240
that, I'm gonna jump into another song real quick.

00:28:42.220 --> 00:28:45.500
Okay. So everybody, this is, let's see here,

00:28:45.700 --> 00:28:49.250
Youth Out. Definitely. You got this does load

00:28:49.250 --> 00:28:51.130
and you know, you're from Texas. He should have

00:28:51.130 --> 00:28:55.009
the slow to chop version I'm gonna play the version

00:28:55.009 --> 00:28:57.250
for everybody. So yeah, make sure y 'all go.

00:28:57.250 --> 00:29:20.900
We got stream the song. This is you thought Alright

00:29:20.900 --> 00:29:22.640
y 'all that was you thought so y 'all make sure

00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.140
y 'all go and stream that but ours we have online

00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:28.640
with us right now Charlotte Yeah, y 'all go look

00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.839
it up. It's sh a r L o t t a you spell it out.

00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:34.819
It pops up. She has a whole catalog with that

00:29:34.819 --> 00:29:36.779
was you thought I like that song where you know,

00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.880
it's upbeat and then also You know, it says what

00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.240
it is you thought you thought he was getting

00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:46.079
over him blah blah blah So did you go like that

00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.160
where you know, they thought there was go to

00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.230
it like, you know Yeah! That's exactly why I

00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:54.789
made that song. That's not gonna work on me,

00:29:54.890 --> 00:29:57.470
buddy. That's exactly why I made that. I'm not

00:29:57.470 --> 00:29:59.349
the girl you thought that I was. I don't know,

00:29:59.569 --> 00:30:04.329
sir. We're not doing that. I definitely get that.

00:30:06.130 --> 00:30:09.069
What I wanted to tell you, we were talking about

00:30:09.069 --> 00:30:12.339
why the song was playing and stuff. The one thing

00:30:12.339 --> 00:30:15.380
about marketing, right? What I've learned and

00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:17.519
the things that I've done in the past I used

00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:20.539
to run Facebook ads and stuff for when I was

00:30:20.539 --> 00:30:23.539
operating my independent label and I had someone

00:30:23.539 --> 00:30:26.059
comment to my I am so sick of seeing this stuff

00:30:26.059 --> 00:30:27.579
and I won't even follow that I was like, well,

00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.400
thank you, but your friends do so you want to

00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.680
get to the point to where you know people are

00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.319
commenting engaging Because that's what's gonna

00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.460
make it spread anymore even more. You don't want

00:30:37.460 --> 00:30:41.480
people to you know You wanna be like polarizing

00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.579
somewhat. So you want them to react to it. Either

00:30:44.579 --> 00:30:46.700
they're gonna like it or they're not. You don't

00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:49.339
want people to just like pass by. You see what

00:30:49.339 --> 00:30:52.220
I'm saying? And that's what it takes as far as

00:30:52.220 --> 00:30:54.880
pushing. It really does take that amount of,

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.920
cause you're building your brand and you're building

00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.660
value. And I wish that I advocate for people

00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:02.880
to always support independent artists, like pay

00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.619
them, stream them, all that stuff, buy merchandise,

00:31:05.859 --> 00:31:11.859
go to their shows, all that stuff. But being

00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:16.759
a creative and within an entertainment space,

00:31:16.859 --> 00:31:18.920
whether it be music, whether it be acting, whether

00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:24.339
it be whatever, comedians, all that stuff. Creative

00:31:24.339 --> 00:31:27.740
space is the only industry that I can think of

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:31.180
where it does not have an assumed value starting

00:31:31.180 --> 00:31:34.339
out the gate. If they're not familiar with it,

00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:37.190
they disregard it. And I'm like, you shouldn't

00:31:37.190 --> 00:31:41.269
do that because you have talent. You've been

00:31:41.269 --> 00:31:44.490
doing this for a long time. The difference between

00:31:44.490 --> 00:31:46.890
you and a major recording artist is a marketing

00:31:46.890 --> 00:31:51.089
budget. That's it. Yep. Yep, that's it. That's

00:31:51.089 --> 00:31:57.069
it. You're exactly right. Told you. And that's

00:31:57.069 --> 00:31:58.470
why I be trying to get people to understand.

00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:01.369
But for some reason, the mainstream people, just

00:32:01.369 --> 00:32:04.410
in general, Someone could be singing they could

00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:07.089
be singing a heart out. They could be on point

00:32:07.089 --> 00:32:09.930
They could be performing their heart out like

00:32:09.930 --> 00:32:11.529
let's say if they're at a club or something like

00:32:11.529 --> 00:32:13.309
that People are just sitting there talking and

00:32:13.309 --> 00:32:15.069
yada yada yada not really paying attention to

00:32:15.069 --> 00:32:17.470
the performance Or this person could be outside

00:32:17.470 --> 00:32:19.329
on the street somewhere doing the same thing

00:32:19.329 --> 00:32:21.369
and people just walk by like they're in New York

00:32:21.369 --> 00:32:24.130
and stuff like that and won't even Embrace but

00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:27.069
the moment that you push so much and you know,

00:32:27.170 --> 00:32:30.750
you put enough You know Whatever it is, whether

00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:33.410
it be organic marketing or whether it be like

00:32:33.410 --> 00:32:35.690
paid ads or whatever but once you break through

00:32:35.690 --> 00:32:39.009
people's head enough people that you break through

00:32:39.009 --> 00:32:42.089
where you have a Huge following then you start

00:32:42.089 --> 00:32:43.869
to people start to see you in a different way

00:32:43.869 --> 00:32:46.549
I'm like, oh no, this sets such and such does

00:32:46.549 --> 00:32:48.250
not connect to that person. I'm like this person's

00:32:48.250 --> 00:32:50.750
been that same person like three four years ago

00:32:50.750 --> 00:32:54.329
Yeah, uh -huh. Yeah, they connected to you know,

00:32:54.369 --> 00:32:57.690
like it is crazy how Creative spaces are the

00:32:57.690 --> 00:33:00.390
only industry where I see that happening because

00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:02.650
you can start you a plumbing business or you'd

00:33:02.650 --> 00:33:05.309
be a doctor and people Automatically have an

00:33:05.309 --> 00:33:06.890
assumption to it or you can create some type

00:33:06.890 --> 00:33:08.910
of product or whatever or you could be a cleaner

00:33:08.910 --> 00:33:11.789
and go clean someone else People not complete.

00:33:11.829 --> 00:33:13.809
Oh, well, I'm not gonna pay you blah blah blah

00:33:13.809 --> 00:33:18.930
But it's with people doing movies and music and

00:33:18.930 --> 00:33:20.930
comedy or whatever the case would be even being

00:33:20.930 --> 00:33:24.460
content creators People just don't want to give

00:33:24.460 --> 00:33:28.140
them that value that they deserve Because they

00:33:28.140 --> 00:33:30.240
just look at it as a I don't know a disposable

00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.640
type of thing exactly So I imagine you get that

00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.539
a lot when or you was getting it when you first

00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:39.579
started out. Sometimes, until they actually listen.

00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.200
Until they actually listen. But I like surprising

00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.079
people. I like it when people ignore it and they

00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.339
come back like, oh my God, girl, I didn't know

00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:47.480
you could sing. And a part of me wants to be

00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.779
like, you should be listening to that. You know

00:33:49.779 --> 00:33:51.019
what I'm saying? You should have been listening

00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.180
to that song. I've been playing that for, that

00:33:53.180 --> 00:33:54.440
song's been out two years. What do you mean?

00:33:54.460 --> 00:33:55.700
You just not heard it and it's hot. And it's

00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:58.160
like, I know it's hot, you know? But I just take

00:33:58.160 --> 00:33:59.759
it with a grain of salt, with a smile on my face

00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.099
and I just be like, yeah, okay, now you're a

00:34:02.099 --> 00:34:04.119
fan. You could have been a fan though. Yeah,

00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.890
exactly. I'm right about that. It's like people

00:34:06.890 --> 00:34:09.469
have to see something else. You get on board.

00:34:09.809 --> 00:34:11.369
Yeah, it's like you got to over prove yourself

00:34:11.369 --> 00:34:13.909
just for them to get to that level of believing

00:34:13.909 --> 00:34:16.010
in you. That's that's the whole reason why I

00:34:16.010 --> 00:34:18.650
started to make that radio show. They wanted

00:34:18.650 --> 00:34:20.889
to create a platform where independent artists

00:34:20.889 --> 00:34:23.090
can be heard because I felt like major artists

00:34:23.090 --> 00:34:25.429
already have all the resources dumped into them,

00:34:25.590 --> 00:34:28.949
regardless of their A level, B level, C level,

00:34:29.110 --> 00:34:33.409
D level. They get enough resources that then

00:34:33.409 --> 00:34:35.860
to them. Why not, you know, I'm saying create

00:34:35.860 --> 00:34:38.559
platforms for these independent artists and not

00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.219
take advantage of them, you know, like all the

00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:42.239
people like, oh no, you got to pay me blah, blah,

00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.400
blah and do this, do that. I'm like, yeah, it

00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:45.940
should be paid for some of the things that you

00:34:45.940 --> 00:34:49.059
do. But at the same time, it's also about like,

00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:52.019
you know, figuring out what can you do to where,

00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.719
you know, you can still monetize your platform,

00:34:54.739 --> 00:34:57.179
but not have to do it at the expense of the artist.

00:34:58.460 --> 00:35:02.130
Exactly. So right on. That's what I've been doing

00:35:02.130 --> 00:35:04.489
and I will continue to do so because just like

00:35:04.489 --> 00:35:06.710
how you took a break from music, I took a break

00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:09.329
from this, had to come back to it. Are you doing

00:35:09.329 --> 00:35:12.570
it? Yeah, I did. I only do the personal stuff

00:35:12.570 --> 00:35:14.710
like going through a divorce situation or whatever

00:35:14.710 --> 00:35:17.789
and trying to refine myself and rebuild. Oh,

00:35:17.849 --> 00:35:20.989
yeah. But now I'm back at it and it's going to

00:35:20.989 --> 00:35:24.900
keep going, keep going. And I'm looking. to build

00:35:24.900 --> 00:35:27.719
like, I don't know, you like, do you know Jason

00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.420
Lee is with Hollywood Unlocked? Yeah, I know

00:35:31.420 --> 00:35:34.360
Jason Lee. Yeah, so I'm looking to model my stuff

00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.320
like him. I'm like, he has a $50 million media

00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:41.400
empire. Nice. Yeah, so that's where I'm wanting

00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:43.440
to grow. I've been following him since the beginning.

00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.760
I've been following him since he first started.

00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.440
He used to do a lot of salacious stuff. No, no,

00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:50.800
no. He's a city council person in Stockholm.

00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:54.659
Yeah, he's a council. But I do love the fact

00:35:54.659 --> 00:35:57.079
that this is a little off topic, but we can know

00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.380
that's what we do on here. The thing I do love

00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:02.420
about him right now is that he uses in the last

00:36:02.420 --> 00:36:05.059
couple of years, he's used his platform to bring

00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:08.139
and highlight things that need to be highlighted.

00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.579
So him being a council member and he serves.

00:36:11.900 --> 00:36:13.860
I'm like, he's not missing his council meetings

00:36:13.860 --> 00:36:15.739
and nothing like that. He's there and he shows

00:36:15.739 --> 00:36:18.559
up. He puts it on Instagram. He puts them on

00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.000
blast because I think it's the mayor out there.

00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:23.659
A couple of other people are doing something

00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:27.059
and they weren't being held accountable. So now

00:36:27.059 --> 00:36:29.579
that he has this platform, he has his name. I

00:36:29.579 --> 00:36:32.039
know that they don't like stuff like that. I

00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:33.940
know they they'd be getting all pissed and stuff.

00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:38.039
So I love when people. You know have that realization

00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:42.179
of okay. I can use my platform in help my hometown

00:36:42.179 --> 00:36:45.400
To where you know, I'm saying we're gonna shine

00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.000
a light to the stuff and really educate and empower

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.119
and inform the community because I think a lot

00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.119
of people don't get into local politics because

00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.780
they don't understand how it works at that level

00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:04.769
and They just don't like politicians right Because

00:37:04.769 --> 00:37:06.429
they're always thought of being like, you know,

00:37:06.610 --> 00:37:08.210
corrupting, you know, criminally or whatever.

00:37:08.449 --> 00:37:10.369
Corrupting, sneaky, doing something, taking the

00:37:10.369 --> 00:37:14.030
folks money. That's how people look at it. When

00:37:14.030 --> 00:37:17.710
you have someone who doesn't need it for the

00:37:17.710 --> 00:37:20.849
money and can use their platform like that, I

00:37:20.849 --> 00:37:23.329
think it's amazing. I really think he's doing

00:37:23.329 --> 00:37:25.710
it for the people. I really do. Yeah, he does.

00:37:25.809 --> 00:37:27.750
I guess he doesn't have to do it. He didn't have

00:37:27.750 --> 00:37:29.670
to run it. He even spent his own money on the

00:37:29.670 --> 00:37:33.769
campaign. Oh, wow. I don't know. He spent his

00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:35.369
own money. He didn't spend a dime on nobody else's

00:37:35.369 --> 00:37:37.469
money. He spent his own money. Put it in the

00:37:37.469 --> 00:37:39.250
campaign fund, spent it, you know what I'm saying?

00:37:39.369 --> 00:37:42.170
Signs out our stuff with his seat. And I'm like,

00:37:42.309 --> 00:37:44.690
that's what I'm saying. I think that stuff like

00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:48.110
that is cool because it shows you the motive.

00:37:48.449 --> 00:37:52.650
He doesn't need to, he can use his time serving

00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:55.210
the people to make way more money through his

00:37:55.210 --> 00:37:59.409
business. Right. He chose to carve out a certain

00:37:59.409 --> 00:38:02.949
amount of time dedicated to the people. into

00:38:02.949 --> 00:38:05.690
for that particular city to like you know want

00:38:05.690 --> 00:38:07.949
to do better and leave a you know i'm saying

00:38:07.949 --> 00:38:11.309
get better yeah but they say leave a place better

00:38:11.309 --> 00:38:14.789
uh than let's say than how you found it and then

00:38:14.789 --> 00:38:18.190
when it was before he found uh and i really truly

00:38:18.190 --> 00:38:20.130
believe that's what he's doing so you know shout

00:38:20.130 --> 00:38:22.230
out to him you know if i could meet him one day

00:38:22.230 --> 00:38:25.449
that would be cool yeah and he came along he

00:38:25.449 --> 00:38:27.510
came a long way i've really we've i've watched

00:38:27.510 --> 00:38:30.409
the growth like he's really grown yes as a person

00:38:30.409 --> 00:38:34.539
as an individual Um, as a journalist, all that,

00:38:34.539 --> 00:38:36.539
um, cause he, he could have, he could have went

00:38:36.539 --> 00:38:38.860
to Macy's Zeus, Zeus TV route, but he didn't

00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:40.519
go that route. So I'm, I'm very proud of him.

00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.099
I'm proud of what he's doing. Proud of his platform,

00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.599
all of that. Yeah. So like I definitely watched

00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:47.980
a lot of his stuff and you know, and I love it

00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:48.980
and I get, you know what I'm saying? He still

00:38:48.980 --> 00:38:50.980
has to report some type of stories because of

00:38:50.980 --> 00:38:53.219
the audience he has. Right. And you know, of

00:38:53.219 --> 00:38:55.539
course, you know, negativity and stuff like that

00:38:55.539 --> 00:38:58.099
always circulates way better than way quicker

00:38:58.099 --> 00:39:02.099
than positivity. but you know it is what it is

00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:04.300
and I understand because even building my platform

00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:07.320
you know I've had to start leaning in to more

00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.360
uh stories to like you know make people think

00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.739
a little bit and you know and I like reporting

00:39:11.739 --> 00:39:16.360
negative stuff but I do like to like yeah do

00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.699
something where you know let's put a spin on

00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:20.320
this or whatever like you know how can I look

00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:24.079
at this from a business standpoint or like I

00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.000
did post like uh because I used to be in the

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:29.480
city of Macon uh for a good little minute and

00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:34.650
I saw that there was a big drug bust down there.

00:39:35.750 --> 00:39:40.369
So I clipped the photo and I posted it, but I

00:39:40.369 --> 00:39:43.610
put the captions of like, they had got it to

00:39:43.610 --> 00:39:45.769
the point where I think the drug bust was like

00:39:45.769 --> 00:39:48.909
800 some thousand in value. And I posted like,

00:39:49.190 --> 00:39:54.590
if they only use this ingenuity for positive,

00:39:55.690 --> 00:39:58.829
then that'd be all right. Yeah, like criminals

00:39:58.829 --> 00:40:01.730
make the best when they do it at those levels

00:40:01.730 --> 00:40:05.550
and in higher they make the best business people

00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:08.449
Really? Well, okay. So listen listen to where

00:40:08.449 --> 00:40:11.449
I'm going with this though So I say they make

00:40:11.449 --> 00:40:13.610
the best business people because look if you're

00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:16.269
a drug kingpin, right? And you're making a million

00:40:16.269 --> 00:40:18.210
dollars a week and I've met someone who did this

00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:21.510
in making Like long time ago back in that like

00:40:21.510 --> 00:40:27.280
80s or whatever You are pushing a product that

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.960
you cannot market in a traditional sense and

00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.659
you're having to fight external fights and internal

00:40:36.659 --> 00:40:39.280
fights as well at the same time while keeping

00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.340
this organization afloat because everybody wants

00:40:41.340 --> 00:40:45.199
to make money. Now if you flip that ingenuity

00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:49.000
into something that's legal and give that person

00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.659
a marketing budget and get them to go out there

00:40:52.659 --> 00:40:54.579
and push a product that's legal and all that

00:40:54.579 --> 00:40:58.159
stuff, you would have fantastic results. Right.

00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:01.079
Because they're making lemonade with lemons.

00:41:01.820 --> 00:41:04.880
Well, yeah. Right. But it's just, you know, I'm

00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:06.719
saying an illegal way, but they're having to

00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.440
do it in a very confined manner to get to that

00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.699
level. Right. That's why I say they would make

00:41:12.699 --> 00:41:14.599
the best business people. Do you just have to

00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.960
flip? Yeah, that's true because that's marketing

00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.039
in a whole different way. That's like marketing

00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.059
in the dark and they're still making it. So I

00:41:21.059 --> 00:41:24.099
get your saying here. So you give them a situation

00:41:24.099 --> 00:41:26.659
where it's in a positive manner and it's legal

00:41:26.659 --> 00:41:30.679
and have them use that ingenuity. Man, these

00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.039
companies and stuff, they'll make them go crazy.

00:41:34.300 --> 00:41:38.519
Yes, but you know, that's just my theory on that.

00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:43.090
So for 2026 and future goals, what are you trying

00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:44.769
to accomplish with your career and your music?

00:41:45.269 --> 00:41:49.769
I want to get some more sync licensing done for

00:41:49.769 --> 00:41:54.409
2026. Sync licensing, my visuals, and more plays

00:41:54.409 --> 00:41:58.329
and views. I've looked into the AI. You know

00:41:58.329 --> 00:42:00.869
how they got a lot of AI singers out now? I looked

00:42:00.869 --> 00:42:05.030
into doing that, but it just don't seem genuine

00:42:05.030 --> 00:42:07.619
to my craft. So I don't know if I'm going to,

00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:08.960
I don't know if I'm going to partake in that

00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.000
area, but I'm definitely going to be pushing

00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.679
my music a lot harder. Uh, it's going to be a

00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.619
lot more visuals and a lot more charlotta, uh,

00:42:16.619 --> 00:42:19.800
in 2026 for sure. That's what's up. So I imagine

00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:22.159
that you don't like AI or you have some type

00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.840
of, you know, I do not, I do not. I think it

00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:27.460
takes away from the essence of true musicianship,

00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:30.659
real voices. You know, music is, is, is music

00:42:30.659 --> 00:42:33.780
touches the soul and I don't want no music from

00:42:33.780 --> 00:42:37.559
a soul, from, from a soulless machine or whatever

00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.500
is being made. I just don't like it. It's kind

00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:42.380
of like as an artist, it's somebody that studies

00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:44.539
music and stuff and just kind of, I don't know,

00:42:44.539 --> 00:42:45.960
it's kind of a shock to the heart, like, man,

00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.920
I could have kept playing tennis or running tracks

00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.019
or something, you know, doing something different

00:42:51.019 --> 00:42:52.599
because it's like, man, why are they going to

00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.480
take over the whole industry? We got real voices.

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.260
We don't need computers. Yeah. I don't think

00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:58.659
it'll take over the industry. I think it'll just

00:42:58.659 --> 00:43:01.099
be used as a tool, like auto -tune and stuff

00:43:01.099 --> 00:43:04.260
like that. And once the hype around it dies down,

00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.280
then so was the use of it. Of course you're gonna

00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.119
have some. I really hope so. Well, I think, you

00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.619
know, it's like with everything that's new and

00:43:13.619 --> 00:43:16.480
shiny, right? It's new and shiny right now. So

00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:19.800
we have to let the industry shake it out or whatever,

00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:21.519
because you're gonna have some for it, some against

00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:22.960
it, and some, you know what I'm saying, fall

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.679
in the middle. And I think with every industry,

00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.800
you know, everything that's new and shiny shakes

00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.760
out, you know what I'm saying? And they'll...

00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.619
stand the test of time or stay with the times

00:43:36.619 --> 00:43:39.219
or they'll just fall off. I'm like at one point,

00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.920
you know, iPods and stuff like that were, ooh,

00:43:41.940 --> 00:43:43.500
gotta have that and blah, blah, blah. But then,

00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.599
you know, they, you can't even find one nowadays.

00:43:47.539 --> 00:43:51.900
So I think, you know, again, I don't think AI

00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:56.739
can replace the human experience 100%. Now, can

00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:59.340
they manipulate some stuff? Sure. Can it make

00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:02.489
some stuff sound easy? Of course. But at the

00:44:02.489 --> 00:44:05.309
end of the day, I don't think it's going to change

00:44:05.309 --> 00:44:07.789
everything. Like some people who are like so

00:44:07.789 --> 00:44:09.889
for it and like, oh no, you got to get on board

00:44:09.889 --> 00:44:13.250
to get left behind. People say that with everything.

00:44:14.230 --> 00:44:16.869
Yeah, that's true. You're right about that. It's

00:44:16.869 --> 00:44:19.769
like when you look at stuff in the landscape

00:44:19.769 --> 00:44:22.769
of how things are, when stuff comes out, it's

00:44:22.769 --> 00:44:26.329
new, it's shiny. And then we either accept it

00:44:26.329 --> 00:44:28.949
as the masses. The hype just dies down. Then

00:44:28.949 --> 00:44:32.820
the hype dies down. if it falls where it's supposed

00:44:32.820 --> 00:44:35.820
to fall. And I think it will be a tool, just

00:44:35.820 --> 00:44:38.260
like I said, without a tune and synthesizing

00:44:38.260 --> 00:44:40.840
and all that. You know, some people will use,

00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.519
but it's not going to sit there. And I don't

00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.179
think it's just going to replace music in its

00:44:45.179 --> 00:44:47.659
totality to where, you know, we look we look

00:44:47.659 --> 00:44:51.000
up and every single song is generated and all

00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.199
that. I'm like, no, no, I don't see that happening.

00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:56.780
Because when a lot of them on tiktok, it's a

00:44:56.780 --> 00:44:59.320
lot of ai phones It's been a couple that that

00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.139
kind of caught me by surprise that I isn't of

00:45:01.139 --> 00:45:03.699
liking, you know, I'm like this ai I'm like,

00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:07.699
wow, you know, uh, so that I get it There will

00:45:07.699 --> 00:45:09.719
always be stuff to stand out, but at the end

00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:13.460
of the day, I don't see it Really? Like I said

00:45:13.460 --> 00:45:15.519
just taking over everything. I don't see it taking

00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.860
over. I really don't I'm like, so let's let's

00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:21.670
go down that road. It takes over People yeah,

00:45:21.690 --> 00:45:23.570
you'll be able to listen to it. But what is AI

00:45:23.570 --> 00:45:27.610
gonna do about concerts, right? I want somebody

00:45:27.610 --> 00:45:29.489
who's asked him in there cuz he just had that

00:45:29.489 --> 00:45:31.909
artist that he released or whatever the AI girl

00:45:31.909 --> 00:45:33.769
and I haven't listened to any of the music but

00:45:33.769 --> 00:45:37.969
apparently it's good, but I Don't know. I just

00:45:37.969 --> 00:45:39.849
can't get down with the computer man. I'm gonna

00:45:39.849 --> 00:45:44.510
buy a real talent Hmm, I'm like we gonna buy

00:45:44.510 --> 00:45:48.360
a merch a merch Yeah, you know the only reason

00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:52.039
we like we as consumers we buy artists merchandise

00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.260
is because of the connection the human connection

00:45:54.260 --> 00:45:56.559
That's what it goes all the way back to why?

00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.119
We go to a concert Exactly. We go to a concert

00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:05.219
we see them perform Are we connect on that human

00:46:05.219 --> 00:46:08.519
emotional level like that? So then we start supporting

00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.199
them Through the merchandise and all the other

00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.340
different endeavor endeavors that they have that

00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:16.610
we want to always have a piece of them We don't

00:46:16.610 --> 00:46:18.670
want you to do pictures and stuff like that.

00:46:18.769 --> 00:46:21.050
I'm like, AI gonna be giving like, you know what

00:46:21.050 --> 00:46:22.610
I'm saying? What is that? Chris Brown meetups?

00:46:22.690 --> 00:46:26.769
AI gonna be doing meetups? Right. Meet and greets.

00:46:26.929 --> 00:46:28.789
Meet and greets, yeah. That's true. So I'm really

00:46:28.789 --> 00:46:31.269
thinking about that. Yeah. So again, I'm like,

00:46:31.269 --> 00:46:32.969
you know, I think a lot of people, because it's

00:46:32.969 --> 00:46:36.670
new, it can always be looked upon. Oh, blah,

00:46:36.869 --> 00:46:38.210
blah, blah. But I'm like, at the end of the day,

00:46:38.250 --> 00:46:40.989
I'm like, come on. That's not gonna overpower

00:46:40.989 --> 00:46:43.530
no real voice. People said the camera phone or

00:46:43.530 --> 00:46:45.940
whatever with like, you know, kill uh the need

00:46:45.940 --> 00:46:51.179
for photographers yeah see we're there's still

00:46:51.179 --> 00:46:52.820
photographers out here there's people who still

00:46:52.820 --> 00:46:56.619
jump right industry yep so i'm like you know

00:46:56.619 --> 00:46:59.260
even when i can give another example podcasting

00:46:59.260 --> 00:47:02.519
right there is people say when it's over saturated

00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.739
uh based off the numbers that are active it's

00:47:05.739 --> 00:47:07.760
not because there's over six million podcasts

00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.300
and only six hundred thousand are active And

00:47:10.300 --> 00:47:12.360
that's across every single genre. So you're talking

00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.519
about music. Oh, really? True, true crime. You're

00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:18.719
talking about kids stuff. You're talking about

00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.440
narration. You're talking about movies. You're

00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.519
talking about relationships. That's across every

00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.840
single genre combined. Most people who start

00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:29.619
a podcast don't even make it past their 10th

00:47:29.619 --> 00:47:35.139
episode. Really? Yes. Oh, I understand how hard

00:47:35.139 --> 00:47:38.630
it is to build a platform. It's a low entry barrier,

00:47:38.630 --> 00:47:42.070
just like with music. You can make music in your

00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:45.869
garage, in your bedroom. It doesn't mean you're

00:47:45.869 --> 00:47:47.909
going to cut through and make fans. But you can

00:47:47.909 --> 00:47:50.449
still do it. Exactly. A lot of people could jump

00:47:50.449 --> 00:47:52.469
into a lot of low barrier entries. That's the

00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:55.789
thing about those. And from a business person

00:47:55.789 --> 00:47:57.969
and perspective, no one talks about this. And

00:47:57.969 --> 00:47:59.750
that's why I like to talk about, that's why I

00:47:59.750 --> 00:48:02.230
blend the two with music and business. No one

00:48:02.230 --> 00:48:04.090
talks about the stuff that really matters as

00:48:04.090 --> 00:48:07.300
far as like, you know, Yeah, it's a low barrier

00:48:07.300 --> 00:48:10.019
entry. You can jump into it, but you're going

00:48:10.019 --> 00:48:12.760
to have a lot of work. Now, if it was a high

00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.079
barrier entry, then, you know, it weeds out people

00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.300
even getting into it. So the ones who do jump

00:48:18.300 --> 00:48:22.340
into it have a better lasting chance. But that's

00:48:22.340 --> 00:48:25.460
because they've already weeded out everyone and

00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:27.380
only so many people can jump into it who have

00:48:27.380 --> 00:48:31.340
the resources. When the industry does not require

00:48:31.340 --> 00:48:33.929
a lot of resources, Millions of people could

00:48:33.929 --> 00:48:35.670
jump into it doesn't mean they're gonna stay

00:48:35.670 --> 00:48:39.090
though Because again at the end of the day when

00:48:39.090 --> 00:48:41.110
you're creating something and like you're a business

00:48:41.110 --> 00:48:44.610
as an artist You're building something and showing

00:48:44.610 --> 00:48:47.130
value in order to build that value. You got to

00:48:47.130 --> 00:48:49.590
put in that work And putting in that work is

00:48:49.590 --> 00:48:52.969
real work. You have to show up every single day

00:48:52.969 --> 00:48:56.190
Consistently and people don't do that with podcasting.

00:48:56.969 --> 00:49:03.260
Oh It's the same thing it's like, you know People

00:49:03.260 --> 00:49:04.900
are over here back to be a rapper. Everybody

00:49:04.900 --> 00:49:09.760
could be a singer that you know sing That's what

00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:11.860
people say but you know at the end of day They're

00:49:11.860 --> 00:49:14.360
not gonna last even if they jump into it because

00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:18.059
like you like you even learned You gotta put

00:49:18.059 --> 00:49:20.059
in that work. You can't just put your stuff out

00:49:20.059 --> 00:49:21.539
there thinking that you know, I'm saying it's

00:49:21.539 --> 00:49:25.099
going to Do something I tell you another stat

00:49:25.099 --> 00:49:29.940
and this is with music back in 2021 I believe

00:49:29.940 --> 00:49:33.699
because I used to do workshops and stuff iTunes

00:49:33.699 --> 00:49:39.239
had 10 million songs on their server that did

00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:44.380
not get downloaded at one time. Now what? Yes,

00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.019
10 million songs on their server, on their store,

00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.400
that did not receive one single download. People

00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.519
just uploading music just to upload it, just

00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.929
wasting time, in the way. They didn't even like

00:49:57.929 --> 00:49:59.690
the crazy thing. They didn't even download their

00:49:59.690 --> 00:50:01.849
own song to like at least, you know what I'm

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:04.730
saying? Get a report. Yeah. I see what you're

00:50:04.730 --> 00:50:06.230
saying. Yeah, that's gonna be allowed. That's

00:50:06.230 --> 00:50:07.550
gonna be allowed. You shouldn't even be allowed

00:50:07.550 --> 00:50:10.190
to post music if you're not gonna be not serious

00:50:10.190 --> 00:50:11.829
about it. It's like over saturated. There's already

00:50:11.829 --> 00:50:13.710
too many people and then you got to sit through,

00:50:13.829 --> 00:50:15.849
you know, all that kind of crap. That's not okay.

00:50:16.289 --> 00:50:17.989
That's crazy. That's a lot of music. There's

00:50:17.989 --> 00:50:19.809
a lot of music going away. There's a lot of studio

00:50:19.809 --> 00:50:21.710
time going away. There's a lot of engineers time

00:50:21.710 --> 00:50:25.340
going away. So yeah, so that's how like, you

00:50:25.340 --> 00:50:27.139
know, I tell people, like when you look at the

00:50:27.139 --> 00:50:28.880
real numbers, you can't look at the numbers that,

00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:30.079
you know what I'm saying? People put out there

00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:31.460
in the media and stuff like that. You gotta look

00:50:31.460 --> 00:50:34.059
at the real numbers. So iTunes reported they

00:50:34.059 --> 00:50:35.840
had 10 million. That's just 10 million that didn't

00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.659
get downloaded. Of course they had 10 million.

00:50:37.699 --> 00:50:39.960
I mean, they also had the millions that did,

00:50:40.420 --> 00:50:43.360
but that's still a huge number to have 10 million

00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.880
songs sitting on your servers. No one bought

00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.099
and purchased. No one's listening. No one's downloading

00:50:50.099 --> 00:50:53.670
it at all. They should wipe. They can wipe it

00:50:53.670 --> 00:50:55.989
off. I think they should, but you know, if someone

00:50:55.989 --> 00:50:57.889
pays to distribute it. They're making room for

00:50:57.889 --> 00:51:00.570
the people who want. Yeah. Yeah. But you know,

00:51:00.690 --> 00:51:03.949
that's that's another story right there. But

00:51:03.949 --> 00:51:07.869
yeah. Oh, man, I like that. That's crazy. Hey,

00:51:07.909 --> 00:51:11.769
I'm full of numbers and stats. Oh, OK, that's

00:51:11.769 --> 00:51:14.550
cool. Yeah, you know, because I do this from,

00:51:14.550 --> 00:51:17.110
you know, a business standpoint and I mix the

00:51:17.110 --> 00:51:23.059
two. So you're in Texas. Are there people out

00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:25.300
there that are independent artists that you listen

00:51:25.300 --> 00:51:27.519
to? And if so, like, who are your top, like,

00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.099
you know, three people you're listening to right

00:51:29.099 --> 00:51:33.539
now outside of yourself? Let me go to my Spotify

00:51:33.539 --> 00:51:37.440
rep. Well, I listen to a lot of I listen to a

00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:41.360
lot of Reservoir, which is a there's like a contemporary

00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.699
jazz. I listen to a lot of music with no words.

00:51:43.780 --> 00:51:47.300
I listen to a lot of Kate Renata as far as independent

00:51:47.300 --> 00:51:51.289
artists that I like. I like Lil Ronnie. Okay

00:51:51.289 --> 00:51:54.969
Little Ronnie in effort MF. He's out of Dallas.

00:51:54.989 --> 00:52:01.349
I like j -dog he is out of Dallas and Who else

00:52:01.349 --> 00:52:03.710
do I listen to this guy named solar swim out

00:52:03.710 --> 00:52:05.630
of Fort Worth? He's really good. I listen to

00:52:05.630 --> 00:52:09.289
a lot of his music some really good music Slow

00:52:09.289 --> 00:52:10.949
swim is from Fort Worth. So a lot of his a lot

00:52:10.949 --> 00:52:13.190
of his music is like his last album is funky

00:52:13.190 --> 00:52:15.429
town So he like talks about talks about a lot

00:52:15.429 --> 00:52:19.400
of the streets and historical Uh, places in the

00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.840
city and his rap. That's real cool. So Ronnie,

00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.239
I've been following him for years. He's been

00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:25.300
making music a long time. He just got some platinum.

00:52:25.619 --> 00:52:28.159
I think he's just went platinum again, maybe

00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.019
gold. He just got some flax in the mail. He's

00:52:30.019 --> 00:52:33.059
really good. Um, Jay dog, I don't know if any,

00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.380
any of his accolades, but I didn't know his music

00:52:35.380 --> 00:52:39.659
and he's nice. Uh, a lot of their stuff. And

00:52:39.659 --> 00:52:41.380
then I listened on my Apple music. I listened

00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:43.639
to a lot of Metro Metro booming was my number

00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:48.170
one for Apple Pluto. A lot of Atlanta artists,

00:52:48.630 --> 00:52:52.750
Bender Boomin' Pluto and Don Pollyver. I listen

00:52:52.750 --> 00:52:57.070
to a lot of them. Okay. Very eclectic. Yeah,

00:52:57.130 --> 00:53:00.349
very, very. I hear it. A little bit of everything.

00:53:00.769 --> 00:53:03.989
I love it. I think people like you, y 'all make

00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:05.949
the best artists because y 'all are able to blend

00:53:05.949 --> 00:53:08.110
so many different sounds. Oh yeah, I think so

00:53:08.110 --> 00:53:11.309
too. Y 'all end up making new sounds. Yep, yep.

00:53:11.550 --> 00:53:13.250
So I still, I still listen to the mainstream

00:53:13.250 --> 00:53:16.050
stuff. I still listen to the auto rap girlies

00:53:16.050 --> 00:53:17.750
and you know, everything else that everybody

00:53:17.750 --> 00:53:21.449
else listens to. But most of the time, um, like

00:53:21.449 --> 00:53:23.110
I said, I'm listening, I'm listening to music

00:53:23.110 --> 00:53:24.949
with no words, especially if I know I'm going

00:53:24.949 --> 00:53:27.150
to go record. I try not to listen to a bunch

00:53:27.150 --> 00:53:28.769
of mainstream cause I don't want to, I don't

00:53:28.769 --> 00:53:30.630
want to come up with the same phrases, melodies

00:53:30.630 --> 00:53:33.429
in that. So I'll just keep listening to, you

00:53:33.429 --> 00:53:36.190
know, uh, some jazz or some contemporary jazz,

00:53:36.190 --> 00:53:38.849
catered out or something like that. We'll start

00:53:38.849 --> 00:53:40.969
listening to that kind of house music. Yeah.

00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:43.400
I'll listen to a totally different genre before

00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.139
I go record. Even if I'm looking at the lyrics,

00:53:47.300 --> 00:53:48.900
even if I even if I know what I'm going to sing,

00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:51.079
I don't want to hear that before I know if that

00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.500
makes sense. No, I definitely did with my creative

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:56.260
process. Yes. No, I understand that. I used to

00:53:56.260 --> 00:53:58.800
do stuff like that all the time. So if you had

00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.940
the power to change the industry, you can make

00:54:01.940 --> 00:54:05.679
you can wave a magical wand. What would you change

00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.800
about the industry? Oh, man, I would change how

00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:11.630
hard it is to break through. Like how hard it

00:54:11.630 --> 00:54:14.670
is to get broken. It shouldn't be that, it shouldn't

00:54:14.670 --> 00:54:18.150
be that hard. But just like you were saying before,

00:54:18.289 --> 00:54:20.849
it's, you know, 10 million songs on there, sitting

00:54:20.849 --> 00:54:24.289
on there to sit through. Just imagine all the

00:54:24.289 --> 00:54:26.309
people you got to sit through, you know, it just,

00:54:26.309 --> 00:54:29.050
it's over. I wish it wasn't oversaturated. I

00:54:29.050 --> 00:54:31.489
wish there was like, you had to have talent to

00:54:31.489 --> 00:54:35.690
do it, to even be in it, you know, that would

00:54:35.690 --> 00:54:40.559
eliminate a lot. I would just make it easier

00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.679
for new artists, you know, and then I would make

00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:48.340
it to where Artists kick, you know recoup is

00:54:48.340 --> 00:54:50.639
some of the money in the end I would I would

00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:52.440
make it to where those contracts would be a little

00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.199
different because a lot of a lot of times a lot

00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.920
of people to get signed just is really not a

00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:02.739
It's really not a good thing. Yes, not Depending

00:55:02.739 --> 00:55:06.940
on what you sign. Yeah. Yeah, and I think I see

00:55:06.940 --> 00:55:10.639
a lot of Good. No, no. Well, I was going to ask,

00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.659
like, so do you have a do you currently have

00:55:12.659 --> 00:55:15.079
a manager? No, no, I don't. Not right now. So

00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.360
you bet you're managing yourself managing. Yeah,

00:55:17.460 --> 00:55:21.360
I mean to myself right now. So when opportunities

00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.739
like let's say you want to perform in a club

00:55:24.739 --> 00:55:27.400
and stuff like that and you're sitting over analytics

00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:29.900
or however you do your process, do you feel they

00:55:29.900 --> 00:55:34.159
take you as serious without representation or

00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:35.880
do you think they would take you more serious

00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.389
with representation? Still feel like I'm taking

00:55:38.389 --> 00:55:40.070
serious with that representation like I booked

00:55:40.070 --> 00:55:43.570
a show for For next Saturday without management

00:55:43.570 --> 00:55:47.389
Well at a club in Fort Worth Okay, I feel like

00:55:47.389 --> 00:55:49.530
it does I guess it just depends on the person

00:55:49.530 --> 00:55:51.630
and it depends on the crew whatever some people

00:55:51.630 --> 00:55:53.409
can look at that like oh She's just out here,

00:55:53.409 --> 00:55:56.050
but I look at it is I would be doing the same

00:55:56.050 --> 00:55:58.170
thing It would just be another mouth in them,

00:55:58.429 --> 00:56:01.010
you know in the play. Yeah, but I don't feel

00:56:01.010 --> 00:56:03.929
like it's changed anything or or anything like

00:56:03.929 --> 00:56:05.309
that. I don't feel like it's changed anything

00:56:05.309 --> 00:56:07.190
or made it difficult or anything like that. I

00:56:07.190 --> 00:56:08.889
follow the same procedures. If they say send

00:56:08.889 --> 00:56:11.809
an MB3 to here, you know, I'll do the same thing.

00:56:11.809 --> 00:56:13.690
Or if they say, hey, DME, if you're an artist,

00:56:13.730 --> 00:56:17.130
blah, blah, I'll do everything. Okay. I'm like,

00:56:17.150 --> 00:56:18.329
you'll get to the point to where you're actually

00:56:18.329 --> 00:56:19.610
going to need someone doing it for you though,

00:56:19.610 --> 00:56:22.150
because you'll be so busy. Oh yeah, eventually.

00:56:22.530 --> 00:56:25.110
Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And I do have help.

00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:28.269
I have a DJ DJ telling him he's been helping

00:56:28.269 --> 00:56:30.789
me. He helped me book the show. That was last

00:56:30.789 --> 00:56:32.670
month at Hawson theater. He got me that show.

00:56:33.299 --> 00:56:37.440
And he got me the sink placements for the movie

00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.300
So if I was gonna go with management or if I

00:56:40.300 --> 00:56:42.360
had somebody that in mind I would I would definitely

00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.260
go with him He's been a he's been a catalyst

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:46.360
to a lot of things that's been happening Good

00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:48.239
things have been happening here lately, so I'm

00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:52.860
happy about that, but I'm saying even if you're

00:56:52.860 --> 00:56:54.500
not in your horny officially on the paperwork

00:56:54.500 --> 00:56:56.019
You get someone in your corner because I'm like

00:56:56.019 --> 00:56:59.500
it's hard. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely Absolutely,

00:56:59.619 --> 00:57:02.380
so he's helped a lot would encourage me, you

00:57:02.380 --> 00:57:03.880
know, encourage me to get back in the studio,

00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:06.239
encourage me to write, encourage me just to put

00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.260
my music out there to promote every day. You

00:57:08.260 --> 00:57:09.500
know, sometimes you need that voice in your ear,

00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.719
that little angel on your shoulder, so. Yeah,

00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:14.179
you definitely do. I appreciate him for that.

00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.679
That's what's up. So is there anything that we

00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:18.880
didn't cover that you, you know, felt like we

00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:22.159
should have covered? No, I think we covered it

00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.760
all. This was fun. I'm glad you had fun. You

00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:26.280
know, if you didn't have fun, I wasn't doing

00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:31.409
my job. Already, already. Let everybody know.

00:57:31.429 --> 00:57:34.829
Where can they go to, you know, stream you support

00:57:34.829 --> 00:57:38.610
all that stuff? I know you can stream me Sharlotta,

00:57:38.829 --> 00:57:45.010
S H A R L O T T A Sharlotta on all platforms.

00:57:45.210 --> 00:57:49.510
There's Apple Music, the Spotify, a lot of music

00:57:49.510 --> 00:57:52.469
on YouTube. There are a lot of music on Instagram

00:57:52.469 --> 00:57:56.889
and a lot of music on Facebook and a lot of music

00:57:56.889 --> 00:57:59.929
on TikTok. Y 'all check me out. That's what's

00:57:59.929 --> 00:58:02.170
up. Everybody. I'll make sure y 'all go and check

00:58:02.170 --> 00:58:04.409
out Sharlotta. Like I said, I played her music.

00:58:04.409 --> 00:58:06.769
Y 'all heard it She's dope artists out in the

00:58:06.769 --> 00:58:10.469
Fort Worth, Texas area Dallas Fort Worth area

00:58:10.469 --> 00:58:12.550
Yeah, and then you know, she didn't know about

00:58:12.550 --> 00:58:15.789
Georgia, too So yeah, I mean she I don't follow

00:58:15.789 --> 00:58:18.650
who y 'all stream stream stream support Whenever

00:58:18.650 --> 00:58:21.210
she does drop stuff for y 'all to be able to

00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:23.070
consume she's gonna drop merchandise or whatever

00:58:23.070 --> 00:58:26.190
the case may be Y 'all check that out and you

00:58:26.190 --> 00:58:29.070
know, just keep following her journey you know

00:58:29.070 --> 00:58:32.130
keep encouraging her because this is an artist

00:58:32.130 --> 00:58:34.289
that needs to be blown up just like y 'all be

00:58:34.289 --> 00:58:36.070
blowing up all these other people y 'all can

00:58:36.070 --> 00:58:39.769
blow up Sharlotta i am your host Andreas it has

00:58:39.769 --> 00:58:42.150
been a pleasure Sharlotta y 'all keep following

00:58:42.150 --> 00:58:44.929
the platform and as always you can follow banked

00:58:44.929 --> 00:58:47.650
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00:58:47.650 --> 00:59:00.230
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