Dec. 2, 2025
Catching a 2nd wind in Music
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Our interview with Pryce Jones brought us back to the essence of hip hop. The New York lyricist—now calling Virginia home—grew up studying bars, penning meaningful songs, and staying true to the craft. His talent took him to stages with VIC and into collaborations with notable artists, but what made fans connect with him was also what made him take a step back. Pryce never wanted to chase gimmicks, even when those tracks brought him fame. Now, he’s returning with a renewed purpose: creating timeless rap music that reflects who he truly is. In this episode, we dive into his journey, the reasons behind his hiatus, and the unexpected people who reminded him that his gift wasn’t meant to sit on a shelf collecting dust. Tune in to hear how Pryce Jones found his second wind—and why the best chapters of his story are still being written.
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the best way to learn. Tune in for another episode,
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Bankedoutt Radio show, music talk. Actually, I
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didn't retitle my own show. Music and business
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talk. Another episode for y 'all. I have on Zoom
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with us Pryce Jones. And this is the thing I
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want to say about networking for everybody out
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there. I'm like, the internet opens up the possibility
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to network with people all over the place. Price,
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originally from, I guess, the New York area,
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but you're in Virginia now, right? Right, that's
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correct. And we met off of threads. Oh yeah,
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we did meet off threads. Yeah, I saw you posted
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something and I responded and we, you know, did
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that. You filled out the form and then, you know,
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we were texting and stuff like that. So I just
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want, you know, I'm saying everybody, you know,
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use social media for the benefit of what it should.
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Bryce is a recording artist, hip hop artist.
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I've been listening to the music, dope music.
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It has achieved what a lot of people want to
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achieve. So One, I just want to give you flowers
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right now. Getting 100 ,000 followers on what
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formerly used to be Twitter, which is now X,
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is an accomplishment and remarkable thing in
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itself. Because I run across a lot of people
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who can't even get past 10 or 12 ,000 followers.
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They don't have the fortitude or the commitment
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to be able to do this. So being able to do that,
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even though I know you took a break and we don't
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get into all that, is a remarkable Achievement
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itself. So don't nobody have nobody's congratulated
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you about that. Congratulations on just doing
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it Thank you, man. I appreciate that But I want
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the audience to you know get a little bit To
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know you know background stuff like that. I have
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a suspicion of based off of your music your delivery
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What you rap about? I'll now ask you this and
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want to see if I'm you know, correct, but I can
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probably I could probably guess the time period
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that influenced you, but let everybody know,
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Jose, what got you started down the path of being
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a recording artist? So just from like the beginning,
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I would say I started rapping when I was about
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nine years old, nine, maybe 10. I was in Harlem
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and I had a few friends that was playing around
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with rapping and trying to get into making great
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music. or making good music at the time we were
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so young, I would just say making music, you
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know. So one thing led to another. You know,
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I kept pushing and kept going with it. And it
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led me to live it. Well, I'm living in Virginia.
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I linked up with a few people, an old manager
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of mine, you know, and then from there things
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just started kind of like picking up and really,
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really getting serious. And then from from that
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point on, you know, I just kept on going and
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kept on going. And now I'm here, you know. music
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opened up so many doors for me, like it opened
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up for me to do movies, it opened up for me to
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do, you know, tour, it opened up for me to collab
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with, you know, some dope artists. So, definitely
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excited, definitely excited about what's to come,
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but I'm also, you know, proud of my past and
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how I actually transitioned into music and the
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things that are taking place within my music
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career. So at what point was like the breakout
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whereas things started rolling from you because
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you said, you know, you went to Virginia So was
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that like high school right after high school?
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Yeah, so it was like in high school. So when
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I was in high school, I was doing music I had
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like before like this is what my space was like
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That just want to say this I personally don't
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believe That recording artists, especially rap
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artists should have an age limit, right? because
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Y 'all are artists, and in some regards, you
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are musicians too, because of the way that you
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use your voice. But I understand people trying
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to limit and stifle the hip -hop rap genre to
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a certain age range, which shouldn't be. Because
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you make great music over time. Right. And then
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when you look at rock artists or R &B artists
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or any... any other genre besides rap music,
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I think you see them touring at 50, 60 years
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old, you know, so they can never stop touring.
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There's always a constant ground for them. So
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that was a conversation I think I heard Davies
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have with maybe Fabulous or somebody else that
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they was speaking on, like, and correct me if
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I'm wrong, it might not have been them, but they
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were speaking on how rap music and rap artists
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shouldn't be limited to their age. Like, it should
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be pulled up. No, by the way, Jadakiss had said
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that. Jankers, I'm saying, like, they shouldn't
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be limited to when they should stop making music.
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Yeah. Yeah, I definitely believe that. Because
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I know what it is, though, because, you know,
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rap is like the last genre of music, right, or
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hip hop. It's pretty much the last genre. I don't
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know any other genre of music that has, like,
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really grown and blown up like that. I'm like,
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there's probably some new stuff or whatever,
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but... I don't know if it has the capabilities
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to blow up like it did and become a major player
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in music itself. Right. So I get it. It was young
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and it had to grow. But in doing so, though,
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it doesn't mean that you just ostracize the artists,
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though. You know what I'm saying? They help,
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you know, with the building blocks and stuff
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like that. Because I know, like, you know, like
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K .R. is one. I'm like, he still spits stuff,
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whatever, and it's still hot. So and I'm like,
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you know. He's one of the godfathers of rap and
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stuff, so. For real? I don't believe in aging
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it. Like I said, y 'all are musicians, and over
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time, you perfect your craft. And I think a lot
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of the better stuff comes out when you're older,
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but I understand the popularity of when you're
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young, though, because we're all young at some
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point, and sometimes we just grow up with the
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artists, and then, you know, some people... I
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guess, you know what I'm saying, don't grow with
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the artists as well. You know, they just, you
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know, fall by the wayside, whatever the case
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may be. But I've never believed it is to be something
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where you shouldn't do it. I'm like, and I give
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the comparisons to people like Susan Boyle. I
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don't know if you know who that is, but she was
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a contestant on one of the shows that at the
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time Simon Cowell was producing. And she was
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a singer. And she got a record contract of like
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55 years old or something like that. But she
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had a she's a singer. She had a wonderful voice.
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So I'm like, if situations like that can happen,
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then we shouldn't stifle anyone who is doing
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it, especially when you do it at the level to
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where you become professional. Yeah. Not to cut
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you off, but like as you get older, you don't
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deal with most like you have more life experience
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to talk about. So And it all depends on, like,
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say if you are one of them artists that, you
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know, like an artist that's talking about their
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life, like real stuff that really happened, I
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think it'll give the audience a better aspect
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of who you are, the things you went through,
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et cetera, because now you're able to talk from
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a point of view of when you was younger and then
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to where you now progress to where you're older.
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So you can actually tap on related to the other
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people as far as storytelling goes. And you can
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relate to your... he appears as a storyteller.
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So if you are one of the artists that is a storyteller,
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I think that that's good for, you know, aging.
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I definitely agree that, like you said, it's
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an experience that matters and you're able to
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translate that into song format that people can
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enjoy. So as you're building your career, you
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said it's starting to take off around high school
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and then after high school, what was like one
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of the big breaks that you caught to where, you
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know, okay, I want to do this for real? I had
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like, this is when Young Money first came out,
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like when they had this old band rap. I did a
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collab with Lil Chuckie, which was Lil Wayne's
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former artist. I don't know if he's still sounding
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Young Money or not, but he was with Lil Wayne
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with Young Money, and I actually linked with
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him. We did a Banked Out Radio show and I have
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some deals for y 'all. There are some companies
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that I've been going, researching, looking at
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the different products and services that I want
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to turn y 'all on to. So go to my deals page,
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check them out. Any one of them that you want
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to interact with, want to do some business with,
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you'll get a promo discount as well when you
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try their product, Banked Out, B -A -N -K -E
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-D -O -U -T -T. Slide over to that page. Take
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out what I have to offer and let me know. It
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was my single at the time. It was called Money
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Kisses. It was me featuring Lil Tucky. And we
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actually made it to MTV Jams before BET Jams.
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We made it to MTV Jams with the actual video.
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And then from that point on, I was like, yo,
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you know what? I want to do this full time. I've
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been doing it. I want to do it full time. And
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this is when I felt like I really could take
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this and go places. So there was an opportunity
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to like really instill that confidence as an
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artist to where you're like, you know what, I
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can do this. I can make a living off of it and
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I can pursue this as a profession. That's what's
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up. You know, a lot of people don't get like
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placements like that. Like, how did that even
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happen as far as the collab and all that? How
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are you able to get that close to Young Money's
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camp and all that? So I'm not gonna lie, like
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I had, whoa. My former manager at the time, which
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is still a good friend of mine. His name is Miguel
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Solano. He does a lot in the industry right now.
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But he was able to connect with Lil Chuckie's
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father and put that into motion. Everybody put
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that into play. And then I'm not gonna lie, one
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day he was like, yo, who would you want to do
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a collab with? I was naming mad different artists.
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And then one morning I woke up, he said, yo,
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remember you said you wanted to do a song with
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somebody from Young Money? And then he played
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me the record of him on the records. I was like,
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oh. Oh, you really got the record. So I was hyped
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about it. So shout out to him for actually putting
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that together. He actually put together a lot
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of different things in my career. So I would
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definitely tell my hat to him with helping me
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and being one of the permanent figure in my career.
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So yeah, so that's how that happened. That's
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what it says. So like what starts to, that shit
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to me, have a snowball effect, right? It's like
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an avalanche effect. When you keep rolling downhill,
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you're getting bigger, bigger, bigger. So what
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started happening after that? So after that,
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we went to MTV Jams. From there, I started touring
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with one of my good guys. His name is V .I .C.
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He had a record called Wobble. I was performing
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with him every night. Not every night, but obviously
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like a lot. We was performing a wild record.
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I was performing my record. And then I'm not
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too sure if you guys really remember about this,
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but it was called Von. So it was this social
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media site called Von. Yeah, it was only 12 seconds
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where you get upload content, yep. Yeah, so I
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had a major record on there that was blowing
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up overnight called Hit That Elbow. So it was
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like a trilling song. Like I started trilling
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on... I started training on the bond. And from
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there, that just led into me doing more and more
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shows. Yeah, so I was like performing that song
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with him every night. And then one thing led
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to another, kind of like to the backseat, to
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like the actual, how can I say, like the gimmicky
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music, if that makes sense. I started getting
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actually into my craft and really stepping into
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my craftsmanship when it comes to like making
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music. as a New Yorker, right, so to speak. So
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I did a remix record to one of L .A. Cool J's
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old song called Doin' It, and that actually gained
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a good amount of traction to ways that it hit
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Pandora. That was the video you sent me, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, the video. I was gonna tell
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you, hey, first of all, I can tell the video
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was shot back in the day, but the way it was
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shot is really good. Like compared to, you know
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what I'm saying? Like I'm talking about as far
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as cinematic, it can actually go right now. As
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far as, you know what I'm saying, the way it
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was shot and just the clarity and all that stuff
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of it. I'm like, you can tell a few pieces with
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the edits of the filters and stuff that they
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use that, you know what I'm saying, is a little
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bit older, but the way that it was shot though,
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it's fantastic. I'm like. I watched the entire
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thing. I didn't like put my phone down. So that's
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a big thing nowadays. So yeah, that was a dope
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video. Okay, so you're, you know, you're getting
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back into your bag of like, you know, being a
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New York type of artist and wanting to make,
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you know, records that are more storytelling
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and you know, of substance and quality. Is that
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where like, you know what I'm saying? You started
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like really taking the backseat of things and
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you know, I guess, trying to come to terms of
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what you really wanted to do versus, you know,
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what's popular to do. Is that where that came
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from? Yeah, yeah. So I think at that point, you
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know, I really, yeah, just wanted to, like, step
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into that, that field of, like, showing my talent,
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like, really actually showing my talent, like,
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whatever it comes, like, my brother, right? My
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brother, Kornie, like, he always tell me, like,
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yo... Why why don't you make music where you
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actually showing that you can really stick you
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have balls? No, so right now Thank you right
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now as of today I'm trying to blend it to not
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even trying but now what I'm doing now is I'm
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blending the two of like showing that I can really
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rap and show like my boss But I'm also giving
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it a feel to is that it's commercialized Yeah,
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so I'm kind of like blending the two as we speak.
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So that's kind of where I'm at with music right
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now So how long have would you say like your
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quote -unquote hiatus has been? How long has
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it been like since you've really been putting
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yourself out there? You mean like in terms of
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when I stopped to them? Yeah. Probably a good
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eight years. I kind of stopped making music and
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the only reason why I stopped even really making
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music is because I started doing film. Okay,
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so you just went from one creative space to the
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next? To the next. Yeah, correct. Correct. So
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I started making film and I kind of fell in love
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with actually making film, just to touch on that
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just a little bit. A lot of stuff happened when
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I was younger, so when I was about around the
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same age, maybe eight, nine or 10 years old,
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I was in the commercial with my cousin Malcolm
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Goodwin. I'm not too sure if people are familiar
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with him, but he did a lot of stuff behind the
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scenes. He starred in, not starred, but he featured
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in that movie, American Gangster with Denzel
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Washington. He did a lot of stuff with CW, but
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make a long story short, I actually... had a
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role that I played in his commercial. And then
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from there, I felt like, you know, that was something
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that I might've wanted to pursue. So I took it
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upon myself and, you know, as I got older, I
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said, you know what, maybe I could produce my
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own moves. And that's what I did. I put like,
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I produced a few projects and, you know, so that
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was kind of like me still being creative was,
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you know, was just taking it to a different space.
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So now I just like, and then just to convert
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back to music, now I just feel like, I'm matured
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over the years, and I can just give that grown
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and sexy music. And I wouldn't even say grown
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and sexy, I would say grown and gorgeous. I love
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that, grown and gorgeous. Yeah, because I was
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like, two of the Chronicles I was listening to,
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it has that appeal to the women, talking about
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them in a really grown up way. So I get where
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you're saying, grown and gorgeous. I like the
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fact that you kept being creative and I wanted
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to explore that too. It's like you doing the
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movies. I mean, that's actually a big thing because
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people didn't shoot their own movies or produce
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their own movies. Now it's more accessible to
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do that because of technology and equipment being
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cheaper and stuff like that. So how was that
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like really getting that process going? Because
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I'm like, just to produce a movie, even if it's
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like a short film, 45 minutes, like your projects,
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what was the time span of them? Were they like
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short films, 45 minutes or so? Yeah, so it was
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short films. I actually shot my first project.
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It was called Out the Mud. It was the pile episode.
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So I shot that. Then I shot like another one
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called The Love I Have for You. That was roughly
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around maybe like 20 minutes. So even with 20
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minutes, right, you know that it has to be dynamic.
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it has to you know move quickly as far as scenery
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and stuff like that and you have to have like
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all these different people in it based off of
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you know how you wrote it so how is that process
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of getting other people to like really uh you
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know join the vision that you had for a particular
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project man that was a headache now i'm just
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joking i was that was cool man it was you know
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you always have to like I mean, me as being the
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actual film producer on that project, I think,
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to me, you gotta have a, you gotta be able to
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relate to everybody, man, because your kid is
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gonna be super hard. Like, you constantly clashing
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with different people is gonna be super hard,
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and not sometimes it's not gonna work. So, you
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gotta just be a people person, I would say, just
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to actually be able to connect with people, personalities,
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and getting everybody on the same accord. Because
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I would say, Music is like a watch, man. You
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got all the ticking pieces that's inside and
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you got to move accordingly for it to actually
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work. Because if one little piece is jammed or
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one little piece is messed up, it's going to
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throw up the entire movie or it's going to throw
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the entire project. And I think that's the same
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thing with music when you got a team. If you
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got a strong team and then everything is rolling
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the way it's supposed to, I think that it's going
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to work. But if you got that one situation where
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it's kind of clashing, something's going to go
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wrong. Whether it's the wrong roll out date,
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whether it's the wrong... you know, maybe get
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leaked or anything could happen to is that, you
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know, yeah, anything could happen in that time
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period. So I think that as long as you got a
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good, strong team besides you and you focus and
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your team is focused, I definitely think anything
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is possible. I love it. I love that. You know
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what I'm saying? You put that into perspective,
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especially like with the watch analogy and like
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all the gears and stuff have to move in coordination
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with one another in order for it to like really
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take like it's supposed to. So you have these
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experiences the movies, you had an experience
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with commercials, you had this experience with
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music. On the flip side of that, the business
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aspect of all of that, how has your experience
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been from the business standpoint? Were you fairly
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compensated for all your stuff? Did you take
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some shortcomings on others, but built relationships
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that led to other opportunities? How was your
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experience? I think a lot of my experience was
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kind of taking the short ends, just so that way
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I can build relationships. And I would say that
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because like me, I'm a type person, I'm not super
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money hungry. So my whole thing is like, you
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know, a relationship is way valuable, it's more
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valuable than the money a lot of different times.
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So with me, like I took a lot of shortcomings
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and it didn't help me in the future. Cause like
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right now, prime example, my guy TJ Moore, that's
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on the doing the record, right? He just went
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platinum. overseas with something that he produced.
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And I could actually reach out to people like
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that, or I could reach out to my old manager
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and stuff like that, coming back into the music
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industry. And they welcomed me with open arms
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because I built the relationships instead of
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saying, you know what, I just want to take the
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finances. I just want to take a pay cut and then
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we just wash our hands. So I built the relationships
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so that now I can just reach out to certain people
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and make things happen. I like the fact that
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you look at it that way. Cause you know, some
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people will be like disgruntled and things that
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I made sure, you know, if they had to take like
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the shortcomings of stuff and, you know, be,
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I'm not saying that, you know what I'm saying?
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We're supposed to take shortcomings, but sometimes,
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like you said, they're working in favor when
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they allow you to cultivate a relationship over
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time. And everyone is not always going to be
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at the same level. Like you said, a former collaborator
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is now a platinum producer. that in itself is
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going to carry weight to where you know it'll
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benefit you if you decide to you know have record
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produced and you know whatever the case may be
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um that extra shine will be uh put on you so
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you take an eight -year hiatus what inspired
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you to like really come back um the people around
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me i think i think like one of my main supporters
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you know one of my main support well three of
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my I would say two of my main supporters is my
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wife and my brother. So to me, how I look at
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it is they tell me every day, like, yo, you could
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do it. I'm not gonna lie, man. I went through
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a point where I was super damn about not knowing
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what I wanted to do with music. So now with them
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in my corner, pushing me and telling me like
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yo you can actually get back into this and really
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and really really do it it kind of built my confidence
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back up to now where now i'm back and i'm feeling
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like my back to myself and not only my back to
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myself but i feel like i'm better because like
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how we spoke earlier about the maturity i feel
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like i got more to bring to the music more life
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experiences more just experience in general that
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i could you know push forward push push forward
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with making music and this was up so How do you
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view, like, you know what I'm saying, rap nowadays,
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as far as, like, just in his entirety, whether
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it be the, you know, the major system or whether
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it be the indie system? What does it look like
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to you from your perspective as an artist? From
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my perspective, to me, I look at it as I think
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indie is definitely taking over, man. Because
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you can connect with your fans directly now.
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Like, so let's just say the young guy that's
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from up the block, he just made a record. He
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went viral. and he get a shitload of numbers.
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At this point, how I look at it, a lot of labels
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can't even really work with you unless you already
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got the numbers. But if you got the numbers,
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why do you need the label? Because now you can
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go directly to the consumer. So I look at it
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like independentist guy got his pros, but they
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also got his cons because if you're not just
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a type of artist that's going viral with everything
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you post, you gotta put up the money. So a lot
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of people don't have that money to say, you know
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what, I'm going to spend $50 ,000 on my single.
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I'm going to spend $10 ,000. Nevertheless, people
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say I want to spend $2 ,500 on getting my project
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seen around the world or around the globe or
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around my city. So I think it all got its pros
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and cons, and it all depends on how you're looking
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at it. But again, to me, I look at it as the
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labels can't really help you if you don't got
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no numbers. Yeah, definitely see that where they
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don't do artist development anymore. They stopped
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doing that a long time ago. That's a great thing,
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that's another thing that happened, artist development.
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You just coming up, showing up, you can't even,
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a lot of the artists can't even perform nowadays,
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so. Oh yes, oh my goodness, I've seen so many
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horrible performances. They don't know what to
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do. Yeah. But they also, they don't have nobody
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in the corner telling them, like, this is how
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a real performance goes, you know, this is how
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you engage the crowd. One thing, okay, so let
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me ask you this, when you performed, did you
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perform with shades on? Think I did probably
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once or twice. But that wasn't your normal routine,
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though? No. OK, yeah. So I don't understand why
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artists do that. Like, as far as, you know what
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I'm saying, as their normal routine form was
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changed. To me, as someone who loves music, I
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want to be able to look you in your face and
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stuff like that and know that we got a connection,
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you know what I'm saying, with this thing we
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call music. I think the shades are a blocker.
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uh -huh can i say something really quick though
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just yeah just just to take off for the people
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that do wear shades sometimes the lights when
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well i get the lights i get that that's that's
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the only reason why i would say all right they
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could get away with the shades though but i do
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see where you're coming from when it comes to
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like yo you want that connection yeah and uh
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i get that as uh the lights or whatever but you
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know some of these performances are still being
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done in like dim lit places or whatever so the
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lights wouldn't be an issue. But I also think
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when an artist is not confident with themselves
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that the shades act like a protection barrier
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for them to where they can hide behind like a
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mask, sort of say, they can do the performance,
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but they're not as comfortable. And I get it
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because, you know, you're doing something that
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requires you to perform in front of an audience
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and it's just like public speaking. But you know
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I'm saying, you know, you know, like how people
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was in school stuff a day You got to stand up.
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I don't even know if they do that anymore and
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read from the class and all that Those are you
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know things that get you those are life -building
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skills. Those are soft skills that get you You
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.839
know far in life or whatever because you're learning
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how to connect like I when I was in college I
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had to take a public speaking class. Oh Yes,
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and we had to write our own speeches and we had
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to deliver a speech from memory you can use any
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index cards or nothing like that. Now you can
00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:06.490
stand at the podium, but you're also graded by,
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cause you know, some people stand behind that
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podium and it's like a shield for them. So I
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got good enough to where, you know, I was walking
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around the room talking. But it's practice though.
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You know, you gotta put in the reps, just like,
00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:22.670
you know what I'm saying? When you rap and you
00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:25.400
spit them 16s and stuff. you gotta be able to
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.500
put in the reps to be able to do that. But I
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think it's a skill set that, you know, it can
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translate across a lot of different things. And
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with artists performing, I think, you know, one,
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sometimes you can tell a professional from a
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non -professional because it's your approach.
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And I used to perform as an artist as well. And
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when I knew I had to show, I would practice,
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practice, practice, practice before the show.
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I don't think some of these artists practice
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before the show. Just jump right on stage, right?
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Yeah, they just jump right on stage and I'm like,
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:09.059
that's not gonna cut it. I'm like, you know,
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because you film people, you performed with other
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.660
people, you know, there's a lot of different
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levels to this, especially when you're out there
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being booked for shows. and people are paying
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their money to come see you at the end of the
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day, they want to be entertained. Right. No,
00:28:24.420 --> 00:28:26.319
you're right about that. You have to like, you
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.359
know, understand that it's a business at the
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.119
end of the day, even though it's the love of
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the craft that you're doing it through. Right.
00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:37.200
So what goals do you have now that you're, you
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.200
know, reinvigorated and inspired and you have
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.240
a support system? What goals are you trying to
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.859
accomplish in 2026? In 2026, I think I want to
00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:50.529
just, for one, I want to build a a strong support
00:28:50.529 --> 00:28:53.269
team in terms of, we're not a support team, but
00:28:53.269 --> 00:28:57.210
a fan base. I literally want to just get to the
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point where just building a strong fan base,
00:29:05.369 --> 00:29:08.670
that's my main goal. My main goal is to get a
00:29:08.670 --> 00:29:10.730
great fan base and not only that, just to deliver
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some great quality music. So like prime example,
00:29:13.650 --> 00:29:17.269
like right now I'm using the car chronicles to...
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connect with people to show them that I'm really
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serious about doing this music. And by the time
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I get a good enough fan base, I'm definitely
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going to be dropping some good quality music.
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Yeah, like I said, I think you should continue
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with the car chronicles. So keep doing that.
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Consistency builds a key in success and stuff
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because people get to see it. So I'd like to
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ask this particular question to people who have
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really been in the industry. and based off the
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successes that you've had, if there's anything
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that you could change about the industry and
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you had the power to do so, what would it be?
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One thing that I could change about the industry,
00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:05.960
man, I would probably say go back to selling
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CDs. Okay. I think back in the day, I don't remember,
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.019
but from hearing stories from back in the day,
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it was better when people were selling CDs where
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you you actually have to get up, rise to this
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action. So I think right now music is, to me
00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:24.160
personally, I'm not down to music. I love music.
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I'm not down to no other artists and no aspect.
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But to me it's like, everything is oversaturated
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and it's like, all you gotta do is wake up, click
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on a button and then now you got the music. You
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know? I started like back in the day where, like
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I said, you had to go out and actually purchase
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it and put that effort into actually, you gotta
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really like an artist to do that. Yeah, I cool.
00:30:47.490 --> 00:30:49.309
I could check it out. All right, yeah or nay,
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but before you know, you had to do that Yeah,
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and like you said, I think that It's a two -way
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street because the artists when you pressing
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up CDs and stuff like that It's the physical
00:31:00.869 --> 00:31:02.450
representation of what you want to do and there's
00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:03.769
so many different things you can do with the
00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:06.470
CD itself the right from the color scheme and
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all that to having a lighter notes And it was
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more of a thought process that's going into it.
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And plus it made you want to work harder And
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then on the consumer side, they appreciated that
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because, you know, there's only limited CDs they're
00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:22.690
pressing up and you got to get at that store,
00:31:23.109 --> 00:31:24.589
whoever's going to have it. So, you know, you
00:31:24.589 --> 00:31:26.490
got to make sure you get it online so when it
00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:29.410
drops you can get your copy and stuff. But, you
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know, hey, but I like that answer though. So
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let everybody know how can they, you know, follow
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your journey back into, you know, getting back
00:31:40.569 --> 00:31:43.680
into the music scene. where they need to go and
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check you out. So on TikTok, my TikTok is Price
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.759
Jones, P -R -Y -C -E Jones. And then on Instagram
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.000
is underscore Price Jones and on X is Price Jones
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.019
as well. All right. So y 'all make sure y 'all
00:31:58.019 --> 00:32:00.420
go and y 'all follow Price Jones. You want to
00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:02.180
see the car chronicles that we've been talking
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about. And like I said, there's dope music. I
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.119
like it. And I've listened to a lot of music
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and yeah. there's a lot of trash music out there,
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.420
this is not it. So y 'all make sure y 'all go
00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:15.920
and follow on Instagram, TikTok or X, keep up
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.599
with his journey and then watch for the moves
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that he's making. Price, I appreciate you taking
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the time out of your day to come on the platform
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and share your story. Nah, no problem, man. I
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appreciate you having me, man.
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I'm your host address and I got It wasn't producing
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a lot at the time. So just hearing about Google,
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Google and YouTube University is idealistically
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the best way to learn. Tune in for another episode,
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Bankedoutt Radio show, music talk. Actually, I
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didn't retitle my own show. Music and business
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talk. Another episode for y 'all. I have on Zoom
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with us Pryce Jones. And this is the thing I
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want to say about networking for everybody out
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there. I'm like, the internet opens up the possibility
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to network with people all over the place. Price,
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originally from, I guess, the New York area,
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but you're in Virginia now, right? Right, that's
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correct. And we met off of threads. Oh yeah,
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we did meet off threads. Yeah, I saw you posted
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something and I responded and we, you know, did
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that. You filled out the form and then, you know,
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we were texting and stuff like that. So I just
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want, you know, I'm saying everybody, you know,
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use social media for the benefit of what it should.
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Bryce is a recording artist, hip hop artist.
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I've been listening to the music, dope music.
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It has achieved what a lot of people want to
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achieve. So One, I just want to give you flowers
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right now. Getting 100 ,000 followers on what
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formerly used to be Twitter, which is now X,
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is an accomplishment and remarkable thing in
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itself. Because I run across a lot of people
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who can't even get past 10 or 12 ,000 followers.
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They don't have the fortitude or the commitment
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to be able to do this. So being able to do that,
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even though I know you took a break and we don't
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get into all that, is a remarkable Achievement
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itself. So don't nobody have nobody's congratulated
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you about that. Congratulations on just doing
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it Thank you, man. I appreciate that But I want
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the audience to you know get a little bit To
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know you know background stuff like that. I have
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a suspicion of based off of your music your delivery
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What you rap about? I'll now ask you this and
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want to see if I'm you know, correct, but I can
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probably I could probably guess the time period
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that influenced you, but let everybody know,
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Jose, what got you started down the path of being
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a recording artist? So just from like the beginning,
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I would say I started rapping when I was about
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nine years old, nine, maybe 10. I was in Harlem
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and I had a few friends that was playing around
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with rapping and trying to get into making great
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music. or making good music at the time we were
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so young, I would just say making music, you
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know. So one thing led to another. You know,
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I kept pushing and kept going with it. And it
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led me to live it. Well, I'm living in Virginia.
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I linked up with a few people, an old manager
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of mine, you know, and then from there things
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just started kind of like picking up and really,
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really getting serious. And then from from that
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point on, you know, I just kept on going and
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kept on going. And now I'm here, you know. music
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opened up so many doors for me, like it opened
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up for me to do movies, it opened up for me to
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do, you know, tour, it opened up for me to collab
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with, you know, some dope artists. So, definitely
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excited, definitely excited about what's to come,
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but I'm also, you know, proud of my past and
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how I actually transitioned into music and the
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things that are taking place within my music
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career. So at what point was like the breakout
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whereas things started rolling from you because
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you said, you know, you went to Virginia So was
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that like high school right after high school?
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Yeah, so it was like in high school. So when
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I was in high school, I was doing music I had
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like before like this is what my space was like
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That just want to say this I personally don't
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believe That recording artists, especially rap
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artists should have an age limit, right? because
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Y 'all are artists, and in some regards, you
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are musicians too, because of the way that you
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use your voice. But I understand people trying
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to limit and stifle the hip -hop rap genre to
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a certain age range, which shouldn't be. Because
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you make great music over time. Right. And then
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when you look at rock artists or R &B artists
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or any... any other genre besides rap music,
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I think you see them touring at 50, 60 years
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old, you know, so they can never stop touring.
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There's always a constant ground for them. So
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that was a conversation I think I heard Davies
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have with maybe Fabulous or somebody else that
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they was speaking on, like, and correct me if
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I'm wrong, it might not have been them, but they
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were speaking on how rap music and rap artists
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shouldn't be limited to their age. Like, it should
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be pulled up. No, by the way, Jadakiss had said
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that. Jankers, I'm saying, like, they shouldn't
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be limited to when they should stop making music.
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Yeah. Yeah, I definitely believe that. Because
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I know what it is, though, because, you know,
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rap is like the last genre of music, right, or
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hip hop. It's pretty much the last genre. I don't
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know any other genre of music that has, like,
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really grown and blown up like that. I'm like,
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there's probably some new stuff or whatever,
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but... I don't know if it has the capabilities
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to blow up like it did and become a major player
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in music itself. Right. So I get it. It was young
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and it had to grow. But in doing so, though,
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it doesn't mean that you just ostracize the artists,
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though. You know what I'm saying? They help,
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you know, with the building blocks and stuff
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like that. Because I know, like, you know, like
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K .R. is one. I'm like, he still spits stuff,
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whatever, and it's still hot. So and I'm like,
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you know. He's one of the godfathers of rap and
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stuff, so. For real? I don't believe in aging
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it. Like I said, y 'all are musicians, and over
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time, you perfect your craft. And I think a lot
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of the better stuff comes out when you're older,
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but I understand the popularity of when you're
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young, though, because we're all young at some
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point, and sometimes we just grow up with the
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artists, and then, you know, some people... I
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guess, you know what I'm saying, don't grow with
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the artists as well. You know, they just, you
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know, fall by the wayside, whatever the case
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may be. But I've never believed it is to be something
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where you shouldn't do it. I'm like, and I give
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the comparisons to people like Susan Boyle. I
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don't know if you know who that is, but she was
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a contestant on one of the shows that at the
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time Simon Cowell was producing. And she was
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a singer. And she got a record contract of like
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55 years old or something like that. But she
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had a she's a singer. She had a wonderful voice.
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So I'm like, if situations like that can happen,
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then we shouldn't stifle anyone who is doing
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it, especially when you do it at the level to
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where you become professional. Yeah. Not to cut
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you off, but like as you get older, you don't
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deal with most like you have more life experience
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to talk about. So And it all depends on, like,
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say if you are one of them artists that, you
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know, like an artist that's talking about their
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life, like real stuff that really happened, I
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think it'll give the audience a better aspect
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of who you are, the things you went through,
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et cetera, because now you're able to talk from
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a point of view of when you was younger and then
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to where you now progress to where you're older.
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So you can actually tap on related to the other
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people as far as storytelling goes. And you can
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relate to your... he appears as a storyteller.
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So if you are one of the artists that is a storyteller,
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I think that that's good for, you know, aging.
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I definitely agree that, like you said, it's
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an experience that matters and you're able to
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translate that into song format that people can
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enjoy. So as you're building your career, you
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said it's starting to take off around high school
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and then after high school, what was like one
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of the big breaks that you caught to where, you
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know, okay, I want to do this for real? I had
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like, this is when Young Money first came out,
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like when they had this old band rap. I did a
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collab with Lil Chuckie, which was Lil Wayne's
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former artist. I don't know if he's still sounding
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Young Money or not, but he was with Lil Wayne
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with Young Money, and I actually linked with
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him. We did a Banked Out Radio show and I have
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some deals for y 'all. There are some companies
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that I've been going, researching, looking at
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the different products and services that I want
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to turn y 'all on to. So go to my deals page,
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check them out. Any one of them that you want
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to interact with, want to do some business with,
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you'll get a promo discount as well when you
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try their product, Banked Out, B -A -N -K -E
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-D -O -U -T -T. Slide over to that page. Take
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out what I have to offer and let me know. It
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was my single at the time. It was called Money
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Kisses. It was me featuring Lil Tucky. And we
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actually made it to MTV Jams before BET Jams.
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We made it to MTV Jams with the actual video.
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And then from that point on, I was like, yo,
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you know what? I want to do this full time. I've
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been doing it. I want to do it full time. And
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this is when I felt like I really could take
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this and go places. So there was an opportunity
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to like really instill that confidence as an
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artist to where you're like, you know what, I
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can do this. I can make a living off of it and
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I can pursue this as a profession. That's what's
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up. You know, a lot of people don't get like
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placements like that. Like, how did that even
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happen as far as the collab and all that? How
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are you able to get that close to Young Money's
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camp and all that? So I'm not gonna lie, like
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I had, whoa. My former manager at the time, which
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is still a good friend of mine. His name is Miguel
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Solano. He does a lot in the industry right now.
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But he was able to connect with Lil Chuckie's
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father and put that into motion. Everybody put
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that into play. And then I'm not gonna lie, one
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day he was like, yo, who would you want to do
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a collab with? I was naming mad different artists.
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And then one morning I woke up, he said, yo,
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remember you said you wanted to do a song with
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somebody from Young Money? And then he played
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me the record of him on the records. I was like,
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oh. Oh, you really got the record. So I was hyped
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about it. So shout out to him for actually putting
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that together. He actually put together a lot
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of different things in my career. So I would
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definitely tell my hat to him with helping me
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and being one of the permanent figure in my career.
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So yeah, so that's how that happened. That's
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what it says. So like what starts to, that shit
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to me, have a snowball effect, right? It's like
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an avalanche effect. When you keep rolling downhill,
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you're getting bigger, bigger, bigger. So what
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started happening after that? So after that,
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we went to MTV Jams. From there, I started touring
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with one of my good guys. His name is V .I .C.
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He had a record called Wobble. I was performing
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with him every night. Not every night, but obviously
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like a lot. We was performing a wild record.
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I was performing my record. And then I'm not
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too sure if you guys really remember about this,
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but it was called Von. So it was this social
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media site called Von. Yeah, it was only 12 seconds
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where you get upload content, yep. Yeah, so I
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had a major record on there that was blowing
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up overnight called Hit That Elbow. So it was
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like a trilling song. Like I started trilling
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on... I started training on the bond. And from
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there, that just led into me doing more and more
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shows. Yeah, so I was like performing that song
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with him every night. And then one thing led
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to another, kind of like to the backseat, to
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like the actual, how can I say, like the gimmicky
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music, if that makes sense. I started getting
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actually into my craft and really stepping into
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my craftsmanship when it comes to like making
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music. as a New Yorker, right, so to speak. So
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I did a remix record to one of L .A. Cool J's
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old song called Doin' It, and that actually gained
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a good amount of traction to ways that it hit
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Pandora. That was the video you sent me, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, the video. I was gonna tell
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you, hey, first of all, I can tell the video
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was shot back in the day, but the way it was
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shot is really good. Like compared to, you know
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what I'm saying? Like I'm talking about as far
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as cinematic, it can actually go right now. As
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far as, you know what I'm saying, the way it
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was shot and just the clarity and all that stuff
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of it. I'm like, you can tell a few pieces with
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the edits of the filters and stuff that they
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use that, you know what I'm saying, is a little
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bit older, but the way that it was shot though,
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it's fantastic. I'm like. I watched the entire
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thing. I didn't like put my phone down. So that's
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a big thing nowadays. So yeah, that was a dope
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video. Okay, so you're, you know, you're getting
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back into your bag of like, you know, being a
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New York type of artist and wanting to make,
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you know, records that are more storytelling
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and you know, of substance and quality. Is that
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where like, you know what I'm saying? You started
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like really taking the backseat of things and
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you know, I guess, trying to come to terms of
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what you really wanted to do versus, you know,
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what's popular to do. Is that where that came
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from? Yeah, yeah. So I think at that point, you
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know, I really, yeah, just wanted to, like, step
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into that, that field of, like, showing my talent,
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like, really actually showing my talent, like,
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whatever it comes, like, my brother, right? My
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brother, Kornie, like, he always tell me, like,
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yo... Why why don't you make music where you
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actually showing that you can really stick you
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have balls? No, so right now Thank you right
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now as of today I'm trying to blend it to not
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even trying but now what I'm doing now is I'm
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blending the two of like showing that I can really
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rap and show like my boss But I'm also giving
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it a feel to is that it's commercialized Yeah,
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so I'm kind of like blending the two as we speak.
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So that's kind of where I'm at with music right
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now So how long have would you say like your
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quote -unquote hiatus has been? How long has
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it been like since you've really been putting
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yourself out there? You mean like in terms of
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when I stopped to them? Yeah. Probably a good
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eight years. I kind of stopped making music and
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the only reason why I stopped even really making
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music is because I started doing film. Okay,
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so you just went from one creative space to the
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next? To the next. Yeah, correct. Correct. So
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I started making film and I kind of fell in love
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with actually making film, just to touch on that
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just a little bit. A lot of stuff happened when
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I was younger, so when I was about around the
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same age, maybe eight, nine or 10 years old,
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I was in the commercial with my cousin Malcolm
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Goodwin. I'm not too sure if people are familiar
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with him, but he did a lot of stuff behind the
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scenes. He starred in, not starred, but he featured
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in that movie, American Gangster with Denzel
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Washington. He did a lot of stuff with CW, but
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make a long story short, I actually... had a
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role that I played in his commercial. And then
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from there, I felt like, you know, that was something
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that I might've wanted to pursue. So I took it
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upon myself and, you know, as I got older, I
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said, you know what, maybe I could produce my
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own moves. And that's what I did. I put like,
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I produced a few projects and, you know, so that
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was kind of like me still being creative was,
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you know, was just taking it to a different space.
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So now I just like, and then just to convert
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back to music, now I just feel like, I'm matured
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over the years, and I can just give that grown
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and sexy music. And I wouldn't even say grown
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and sexy, I would say grown and gorgeous. I love
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that, grown and gorgeous. Yeah, because I was
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like, two of the Chronicles I was listening to,
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it has that appeal to the women, talking about
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them in a really grown up way. So I get where
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you're saying, grown and gorgeous. I like the
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fact that you kept being creative and I wanted
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to explore that too. It's like you doing the
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movies. I mean, that's actually a big thing because
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people didn't shoot their own movies or produce
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their own movies. Now it's more accessible to
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do that because of technology and equipment being
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cheaper and stuff like that. So how was that
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like really getting that process going? Because
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I'm like, just to produce a movie, even if it's
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like a short film, 45 minutes, like your projects,
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what was the time span of them? Were they like
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short films, 45 minutes or so? Yeah, so it was
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short films. I actually shot my first project.
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It was called Out the Mud. It was the pile episode.
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So I shot that. Then I shot like another one
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called The Love I Have for You. That was roughly
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around maybe like 20 minutes. So even with 20
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minutes, right, you know that it has to be dynamic.
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it has to you know move quickly as far as scenery
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and stuff like that and you have to have like
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all these different people in it based off of
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you know how you wrote it so how is that process
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of getting other people to like really uh you
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know join the vision that you had for a particular
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project man that was a headache now i'm just
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joking i was that was cool man it was you know
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you always have to like I mean, me as being the
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actual film producer on that project, I think,
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to me, you gotta have a, you gotta be able to
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relate to everybody, man, because your kid is
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gonna be super hard. Like, you constantly clashing
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with different people is gonna be super hard,
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and not sometimes it's not gonna work. So, you
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gotta just be a people person, I would say, just
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to actually be able to connect with people, personalities,
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and getting everybody on the same accord. Because
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I would say, Music is like a watch, man. You
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got all the ticking pieces that's inside and
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you got to move accordingly for it to actually
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work. Because if one little piece is jammed or
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one little piece is messed up, it's going to
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throw up the entire movie or it's going to throw
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the entire project. And I think that's the same
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thing with music when you got a team. If you
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got a strong team and then everything is rolling
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the way it's supposed to, I think that it's going
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to work. But if you got that one situation where
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it's kind of clashing, something's going to go
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wrong. Whether it's the wrong roll out date,
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whether it's the wrong... you know, maybe get
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leaked or anything could happen to is that, you
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know, yeah, anything could happen in that time
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period. So I think that as long as you got a
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good, strong team besides you and you focus and
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your team is focused, I definitely think anything
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is possible. I love it. I love that. You know
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what I'm saying? You put that into perspective,
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especially like with the watch analogy and like
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all the gears and stuff have to move in coordination
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with one another in order for it to like really
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take like it's supposed to. So you have these
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experiences the movies, you had an experience
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with commercials, you had this experience with
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music. On the flip side of that, the business
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aspect of all of that, how has your experience
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been from the business standpoint? Were you fairly
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compensated for all your stuff? Did you take
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some shortcomings on others, but built relationships
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that led to other opportunities? How was your
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experience? I think a lot of my experience was
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kind of taking the short ends, just so that way
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I can build relationships. And I would say that
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because like me, I'm a type person, I'm not super
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money hungry. So my whole thing is like, you
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know, a relationship is way valuable, it's more
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valuable than the money a lot of different times.
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So with me, like I took a lot of shortcomings
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and it didn't help me in the future. Cause like
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right now, prime example, my guy TJ Moore, that's
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on the doing the record, right? He just went
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platinum. overseas with something that he produced.
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And I could actually reach out to people like
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that, or I could reach out to my old manager
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and stuff like that, coming back into the music
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industry. And they welcomed me with open arms
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because I built the relationships instead of
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saying, you know what, I just want to take the
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finances. I just want to take a pay cut and then
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we just wash our hands. So I built the relationships
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so that now I can just reach out to certain people
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and make things happen. I like the fact that
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you look at it that way. Cause you know, some
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people will be like disgruntled and things that
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I made sure, you know, if they had to take like
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the shortcomings of stuff and, you know, be,
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I'm not saying that, you know what I'm saying?
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We're supposed to take shortcomings, but sometimes,
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like you said, they're working in favor when
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they allow you to cultivate a relationship over
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time. And everyone is not always going to be
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at the same level. Like you said, a former collaborator
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is now a platinum producer. that in itself is
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going to carry weight to where you know it'll
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benefit you if you decide to you know have record
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produced and you know whatever the case may be
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um that extra shine will be uh put on you so
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you take an eight -year hiatus what inspired
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you to like really come back um the people around
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me i think i think like one of my main supporters
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you know one of my main support well three of
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my I would say two of my main supporters is my
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wife and my brother. So to me, how I look at
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it is they tell me every day, like, yo, you could
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do it. I'm not gonna lie, man. I went through
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a point where I was super damn about not knowing
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what I wanted to do with music. So now with them
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in my corner, pushing me and telling me like
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yo you can actually get back into this and really
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and really really do it it kind of built my confidence
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back up to now where now i'm back and i'm feeling
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like my back to myself and not only my back to
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myself but i feel like i'm better because like
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how we spoke earlier about the maturity i feel
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like i got more to bring to the music more life
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experiences more just experience in general that
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i could you know push forward push push forward
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with making music and this was up so How do you
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view, like, you know what I'm saying, rap nowadays,
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as far as, like, just in his entirety, whether
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it be the, you know, the major system or whether
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it be the indie system? What does it look like
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to you from your perspective as an artist? From
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my perspective, to me, I look at it as I think
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indie is definitely taking over, man. Because
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you can connect with your fans directly now.
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Like, so let's just say the young guy that's
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from up the block, he just made a record. He
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went viral. and he get a shitload of numbers.
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At this point, how I look at it, a lot of labels
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can't even really work with you unless you already
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got the numbers. But if you got the numbers,
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why do you need the label? Because now you can
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go directly to the consumer. So I look at it
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like independentist guy got his pros, but they
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also got his cons because if you're not just
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a type of artist that's going viral with everything
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you post, you gotta put up the money. So a lot
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of people don't have that money to say, you know
00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:07.509
what, I'm going to spend $50 ,000 on my single.
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I'm going to spend $10 ,000. Nevertheless, people
00:24:09.269 --> 00:24:12.210
say I want to spend $2 ,500 on getting my project
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seen around the world or around the globe or
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around my city. So I think it all got its pros
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and cons, and it all depends on how you're looking
00:24:21.569 --> 00:24:23.930
at it. But again, to me, I look at it as the
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labels can't really help you if you don't got
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no numbers. Yeah, definitely see that where they
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don't do artist development anymore. They stopped
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doing that a long time ago. That's a great thing,
00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:35.630
that's another thing that happened, artist development.
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You just coming up, showing up, you can't even,
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a lot of the artists can't even perform nowadays,
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so. Oh yes, oh my goodness, I've seen so many
00:24:43.230 --> 00:24:45.009
horrible performances. They don't know what to
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do. Yeah. But they also, they don't have nobody
00:24:47.349 --> 00:24:49.309
in the corner telling them, like, this is how
00:24:49.309 --> 00:24:51.869
a real performance goes, you know, this is how
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you engage the crowd. One thing, okay, so let
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me ask you this, when you performed, did you
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perform with shades on? Think I did probably
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once or twice. But that wasn't your normal routine,
00:25:08.009 --> 00:25:12.170
though? No. OK, yeah. So I don't understand why
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artists do that. Like, as far as, you know what
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I'm saying, as their normal routine form was
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changed. To me, as someone who loves music, I
00:25:20.750 --> 00:25:23.009
want to be able to look you in your face and
00:25:23.009 --> 00:25:24.829
stuff like that and know that we got a connection,
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you know what I'm saying, with this thing we
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call music. I think the shades are a blocker.
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uh -huh can i say something really quick though
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just yeah just just to take off for the people
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that do wear shades sometimes the lights when
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well i get the lights i get that that's that's
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the only reason why i would say all right they
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.900
could get away with the shades though but i do
00:25:49.900 --> 00:25:51.259
see where you're coming from when it comes to
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like yo you want that connection yeah and uh
00:25:54.380 --> 00:25:56.960
i get that as uh the lights or whatever but you
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:58.940
know some of these performances are still being
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done in like dim lit places or whatever so the
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.079
lights wouldn't be an issue. But I also think
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.539
when an artist is not confident with themselves
00:26:08.539 --> 00:26:13.660
that the shades act like a protection barrier
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for them to where they can hide behind like a
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mask, sort of say, they can do the performance,
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.460
but they're not as comfortable. And I get it
00:26:22.460 --> 00:26:24.680
because, you know, you're doing something that
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:26.859
requires you to perform in front of an audience
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and it's just like public speaking. But you know
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I'm saying, you know, you know, like how people
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was in school stuff a day You got to stand up.
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I don't even know if they do that anymore and
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read from the class and all that Those are you
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.880
know things that get you those are life -building
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:45.240
skills. Those are soft skills that get you You
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:47.839
know far in life or whatever because you're learning
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.119
how to connect like I when I was in college I
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:53.200
had to take a public speaking class. Oh Yes,
00:26:53.619 --> 00:26:56.019
and we had to write our own speeches and we had
00:26:56.019 --> 00:26:59.809
to deliver a speech from memory you can use any
00:26:59.809 --> 00:27:02.589
index cards or nothing like that. Now you can
00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:06.490
stand at the podium, but you're also graded by,
00:27:06.890 --> 00:27:08.430
cause you know, some people stand behind that
00:27:08.430 --> 00:27:11.410
podium and it's like a shield for them. So I
00:27:11.410 --> 00:27:12.869
got good enough to where, you know, I was walking
00:27:12.869 --> 00:27:18.829
around the room talking. But it's practice though.
00:27:19.250 --> 00:27:21.329
You know, you gotta put in the reps, just like,
00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:22.670
you know what I'm saying? When you rap and you
00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:25.400
spit them 16s and stuff. you gotta be able to
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.500
put in the reps to be able to do that. But I
00:27:27.500 --> 00:27:29.500
think it's a skill set that, you know, it can
00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:33.240
translate across a lot of different things. And
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.380
with artists performing, I think, you know, one,
00:27:37.019 --> 00:27:40.779
sometimes you can tell a professional from a
00:27:40.779 --> 00:27:43.660
non -professional because it's your approach.
00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:49.380
And I used to perform as an artist as well. And
00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:52.440
when I knew I had to show, I would practice,
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.380
practice, practice, practice before the show.
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.539
I don't think some of these artists practice
00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:03.839
before the show. Just jump right on stage, right?
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:05.559
Yeah, they just jump right on stage and I'm like,
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:09.059
that's not gonna cut it. I'm like, you know,
00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:12.519
because you film people, you performed with other
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.660
people, you know, there's a lot of different
00:28:14.660 --> 00:28:16.700
levels to this, especially when you're out there
00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:19.440
being booked for shows. and people are paying
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.519
their money to come see you at the end of the
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.420
day, they want to be entertained. Right. No,
00:28:24.420 --> 00:28:26.319
you're right about that. You have to like, you
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.359
know, understand that it's a business at the
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.119
end of the day, even though it's the love of
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:33.700
the craft that you're doing it through. Right.
00:28:34.380 --> 00:28:37.200
So what goals do you have now that you're, you
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.200
know, reinvigorated and inspired and you have
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.240
a support system? What goals are you trying to
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.859
accomplish in 2026? In 2026, I think I want to
00:28:45.859 --> 00:28:50.529
just, for one, I want to build a a strong support
00:28:50.529 --> 00:28:53.269
team in terms of, we're not a support team, but
00:28:53.269 --> 00:28:57.210
a fan base. I literally want to just get to the
00:28:57.210 --> 00:29:04.789
point where just building a strong fan base,
00:29:05.369 --> 00:29:08.670
that's my main goal. My main goal is to get a
00:29:08.670 --> 00:29:10.730
great fan base and not only that, just to deliver
00:29:10.730 --> 00:29:13.549
some great quality music. So like prime example,
00:29:13.650 --> 00:29:17.269
like right now I'm using the car chronicles to...
00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:20.529
connect with people to show them that I'm really
00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:23.869
serious about doing this music. And by the time
00:29:23.869 --> 00:29:25.630
I get a good enough fan base, I'm definitely
00:29:25.630 --> 00:29:27.470
going to be dropping some good quality music.
00:29:28.549 --> 00:29:30.750
Yeah, like I said, I think you should continue
00:29:30.750 --> 00:29:33.309
with the car chronicles. So keep doing that.
00:29:34.509 --> 00:29:37.910
Consistency builds a key in success and stuff
00:29:37.910 --> 00:29:41.210
because people get to see it. So I'd like to
00:29:41.210 --> 00:29:44.349
ask this particular question to people who have
00:29:44.349 --> 00:29:47.619
really been in the industry. and based off the
00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:50.279
successes that you've had, if there's anything
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.460
that you could change about the industry and
00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:55.200
you had the power to do so, what would it be?
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.680
One thing that I could change about the industry,
00:30:01.460 --> 00:30:05.960
man, I would probably say go back to selling
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:11.220
CDs. Okay. I think back in the day, I don't remember,
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.019
but from hearing stories from back in the day,
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.140
it was better when people were selling CDs where
00:30:15.140 --> 00:30:18.920
you you actually have to get up, rise to this
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.420
action. So I think right now music is, to me
00:30:22.420 --> 00:30:24.160
personally, I'm not down to music. I love music.
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.279
I'm not down to no other artists and no aspect.
00:30:26.819 --> 00:30:30.119
But to me it's like, everything is oversaturated
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.400
and it's like, all you gotta do is wake up, click
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.059
on a button and then now you got the music. You
00:30:35.059 --> 00:30:39.079
know? I started like back in the day where, like
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:40.720
I said, you had to go out and actually purchase
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.660
it and put that effort into actually, you gotta
00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:47.450
really like an artist to do that. Yeah, I cool.
00:30:47.490 --> 00:30:49.309
I could check it out. All right, yeah or nay,
00:30:49.849 --> 00:30:52.150
but before you know, you had to do that Yeah,
00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:56.190
and like you said, I think that It's a two -way
00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:58.730
street because the artists when you pressing
00:30:58.730 --> 00:31:00.869
up CDs and stuff like that It's the physical
00:31:00.869 --> 00:31:02.450
representation of what you want to do and there's
00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:03.769
so many different things you can do with the
00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:06.470
CD itself the right from the color scheme and
00:31:06.470 --> 00:31:09.450
all that to having a lighter notes And it was
00:31:09.450 --> 00:31:11.509
more of a thought process that's going into it.
00:31:11.509 --> 00:31:14.269
And plus it made you want to work harder And
00:31:14.269 --> 00:31:17.109
then on the consumer side, they appreciated that
00:31:17.109 --> 00:31:20.589
because, you know, there's only limited CDs they're
00:31:20.589 --> 00:31:22.690
pressing up and you got to get at that store,
00:31:23.109 --> 00:31:24.589
whoever's going to have it. So, you know, you
00:31:24.589 --> 00:31:26.490
got to make sure you get it online so when it
00:31:26.490 --> 00:31:29.410
drops you can get your copy and stuff. But, you
00:31:29.410 --> 00:31:32.970
know, hey, but I like that answer though. So
00:31:32.970 --> 00:31:36.670
let everybody know how can they, you know, follow
00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:40.569
your journey back into, you know, getting back
00:31:40.569 --> 00:31:43.680
into the music scene. where they need to go and
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:48.079
check you out. So on TikTok, my TikTok is Price
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.759
Jones, P -R -Y -C -E Jones. And then on Instagram
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.000
is underscore Price Jones and on X is Price Jones
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.019
as well. All right. So y 'all make sure y 'all
00:31:58.019 --> 00:32:00.420
go and y 'all follow Price Jones. You want to
00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:02.180
see the car chronicles that we've been talking
00:32:02.180 --> 00:32:04.519
about. And like I said, there's dope music. I
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.119
like it. And I've listened to a lot of music
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.319
and yeah. there's a lot of trash music out there,
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.420
this is not it. So y 'all make sure y 'all go
00:32:12.420 --> 00:32:15.920
and follow on Instagram, TikTok or X, keep up
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.599
with his journey and then watch for the moves
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.759
that he's making. Price, I appreciate you taking
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.420
the time out of your day to come on the platform
00:32:22.420 --> 00:32:24.599
and share your story. Nah, no problem, man. I
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:25.640
appreciate you having me, man.
