Integrity's Price: A 10 Year Journey

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Hi, y 'all. We're tuning for another episode

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of Bankedoutt Radio Show. I'm your host, Andreas.

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And this is Music and Business Talk. We have,

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by the way, I would say, Atlanta, we have Officxial,

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who is a model and artist, and I'm sure a few

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other creative things in between. So official,

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thank you for coming onto the platform. Thank

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you. Thank you for having me here. So I was sitting

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there. when Looking at through your Instagram

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and notice that you know, you have been modeling

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for a few years now yeah, sometimes so Let everybody

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know your background and like what got you in

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tomorrow? And if there's one I know that from

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speaking with other models It's not like a really

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easy industry As far as building your brain and

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building yourself up to a certain level to I've

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talked to other models where they've had situations

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where people would take advantage of them. And

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it's not like, you know, there are success stories,

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but then there are the horror stories. Yep. What

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made you want to like, you know, jump into it

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and also what kind of experiences have you been

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having thus far? Okay. So my thing is so been

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modeling since 2017. And what made me want to

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get into it is more so because As I was a kid,

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I used to sing a lot. My family knows this. Everybody

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that knows me knows this. I have a beautiful

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voice. But when it comes to the industry, you

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have to be very careful because you don't know

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when it comes to contracts and signing things

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what you're getting yourself into at a very young

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age. You don't have that type of background.

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So you want to build yourself up. You want to

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make yourself known. I just started modeling.

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I mean, I remember myself in college modeling

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and people wouldn't believe it. I used to Uber

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to the studio or Uber and Lyft, no car, no nothing.

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Just me, a girl who literally started from the

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very bottom. It did not happen overnight. Obviously,

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this is almost 10 years later. But like it did

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start like that. And then I do have a couple

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of horror stories of my own where There would

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be some people that are in the industry, they

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portrayed themselves as a manager or a producer

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or I'm a photographer. And I met with them, of

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course. One guy, I'm not going to put his name

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on here, but Lord, he I got there. We went over

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some things and he wanted me to. Provide sexual

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in order to get me where I was gonna go. Of course

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that never happened I don't even work with him

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that day was a cutoff for me because even though

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I was by myself I wasn't Premature in the head

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so I knew like business and how to keep that

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just then And honestly, I would say that that

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right there got me in the doors I got into with

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modeling. Because people would see how much respect

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I have for myself. I'm like, dang, you ain't

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never gonna be able to pull one over on her.

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That's not gonna happen. But then what also happened

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is by me being that way, people wanted to work

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with me in business. That's good for a brand

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because I do know how to carry myself. After

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that, I just continued to build my portfolio,

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building it up so much that, yeah, I would do

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freelance work, I would do time for print work,

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but that was building my portfolio in those earlier

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years to where when I do see somebody that's

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brandable, or that's someone that is reputable,

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I can actually be like, I've done this, I would

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have something to put on the table for myself.

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So then, you know, after that, I ended up being

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so established to where I ended up being put

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in with Icon Studios of Atlanta. And I actually

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got to be in a model industry where we were changing

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clothes, we were doing this, we were doing that,

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and actually seeing what it was like on a smaller

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level, of course, but on a level to where this

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is the stuff you need to have, like print cards

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and portfolio. headshots and stuff like that.

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After doing that, that is when I started actually

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landing and branding myself in TV. So I would

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do background work. I would do background actor.

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I would do stunts. I actually did stunts for

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Wakanda forever. Oh my God. I remember coming

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home and my daughter was little. My daughter's

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five now, but she was little and I literally

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had a bruise on my leg. And it was so purple

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and black. Like it was insane because you, you

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hurt yourself and people don't, they don't see

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that. They don't, they don't see what it takes

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to like actually be in the model industry and

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what it is to like modeling. You have to brand

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yourself in the beginning and all reality. You

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can't just Take pictures and I've had people

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tell me well, it's so easy to take pictures and

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You just pose for a camera. That's not true.

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That's not true. Like at all It's one aspect

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of posing for a camera It is so much more than

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that like you have to understand those photographers

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work their butt off. Hey, they definitely do

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especially mine He's amazing. He is My manager.

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He is my photographer. He is my backbone when

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I need him. I call him when I need him. He has

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all my Clothing picked out. He has other designers

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that he like works with it's really actually

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it's fun. It's fun. The traveling is fun, but

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people only see what they want to see out here

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and honestly, that's the downfall of it because

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When you come from nothing people that seeing

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you with nothing They feel like it's nothing

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literally. So it's like, you'll try to be this

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person. And then they'll put you as another person.

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Oh, well, you didn't have it and all that. I

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don't believe this and all that. Well, believe

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it because it's happening. And then there was

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there was a lot that I did last year that I can't

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put out just yet. But only because it hasn't

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dropped and it is on a TV station. It was really,

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really awesome. And I was on there with some

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high, high people that everyone knows. And I

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just can't wait for season two to drop, honestly.

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Like, I can't wait. So are you at the point of

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your career now where you're transitioning from

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just modeling to actually like acting? Yes. Doing

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more like trying to get in land leading roles?

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Yes, I am. And I'm trying to like, and you never

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want to, you always want to do your research,

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especially when you're moving from one thing

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to another, because you don't know if you're

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actually wanting to do acting because acting

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is tough. It's tough. I've watched it. I've watched

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background. I've done a lot of stuff to like,

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see how they do things. It's not easy. But if

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you're creative, you can do it. It does take

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time. It takes discipline, but you can actually,

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you can get it done if you stick to it, yes.

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So with like, you know, AI and technology changing,

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and then where I saw where there was a couple

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studios pulling out of a natural land area and

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going overseas, how has that affected opportunities

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coming our way? So, for instance, like when the

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phone came out and it was more, I guess, high

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definition aspects and stuff, people were like,

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well, photographers are gonna have a job and

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this is gonna put them out of business. I was

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like, no, because there's a skill set that comes

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along with that. How has technology and AI affected

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your creative process and just being in the industry?

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I would say it hasn't really affected it as of

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now, but that is something that's going to be

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happening because of technology upgrading like

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that. It is going to set some things on different

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paths, not only for modeling movies, like literally

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these movies. I mean, are you going to need actors?

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Are you going to need background? Are you going

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to need this stuff? Because the technology is

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expanding so much. It's like a hit or miss. But

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right now, I would say it's affecting me a little

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bit because there's some other stuff that's came

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out. Like people use, for instance, dolls, like

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human figure dolls for models. And you can mold

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them how you want them. You can edit how you

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want them. And you don't even need a human anymore.

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Like I've actually witnessed that. on multiple

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platforms. It's kind of crazy, but it's true.

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So that's one thing. And then when it comes to

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movies, there's so much technology that yeah,

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there'll be roles for like humans or actors,

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but it'll be clips and the things that technology

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can't yet do. Yeah. I would imagine that, you

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know, at some point, people would get tired of,

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like, the fakeness that technology is. That's

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what I was... I definitely agree. I definitely

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agree with that, like... Because when you look

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at, like, how these people are using these A

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.I., I mean, some of it... You can't tell that

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it's not real and then some of it you actually

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can but the thing about it is it's like You guys

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aren't gonna you guys are gonna get tired You're

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literally gonna get tired of this and then you're

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gonna want the real thing again There's no it's

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not gonna it's not gonna play as long as people

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think it is. It's not Yeah, I don't think it

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will either like you said at the end of day.

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I believe we're all connected You're saying because

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we're human and we have emotions. We have motion

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Technology and AI doesn't have a soul. I don't

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care how much you program it and prompt it to

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do stuff. It doesn't give you that soul feeling,

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that human connection. And sometimes it's actually

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our imperfections. So like with music, I've heard

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AI music, I've seen different tools used in the

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studio, which are great tools, but sometimes

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it's hearing the voice crack. because it cracked

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a certain way that it resonated with me as a

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listener. Pitch perfect is not going to, you

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know what I'm saying, build to people. And then

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we get, again, I think we get tired of it. So

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I think it should be a tool that people just

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use. That people just use. And I wish it could

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just be that because they're taking the authentic,

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how you say it? Authenticity. Yeah, authenticity

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out of stuff. that's what I'm more so afraid

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of when it comes to like modeling and stuff because

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that right there can cut jobs modeling gigs I

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think it it don't even matter like right there

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because it's like if some if something else can

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do it better then they're gonna be oh why are

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you here yeah what do we need you for like I

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think it makes things more efficient I don't

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necessarily think it's better Yeah. I think sometimes

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people confuse efficiency with better, something

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being better. So as an entrepreneur, you know,

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and someone who control their own brand, how

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do you secure like your livelihood going forward

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being in the industry where, you know, things

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like this, the possibility of jobs and opportunities

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shrinking every day? So I feel like me personally,

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a savings is what you invest in in first. I feel

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like managing your money, like you get all this

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money and then you blow all your money doing,

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buying big giant million dollar houses. Like

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I feel like when you first start or you're in

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a position like me and you have stability, keep

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that stability. Do not live outside of your means.

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For what? Why there's no reason there like there

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are people that have three people a part of their

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family and they have 12 bedrooms Got 12 kids

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12 kids like I'm confused and None of those rooms

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are being occupied you this though. This is the

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hotel for Hotel Transylvania or something. Yeah,

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I don't know but I just feel like You have to

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know how to manage your money. You have to know

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where to put your money. And you also have to

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know how to invest your money. Like investing

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is a big thing. And then not only that, I personally,

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outside of modeling, I got a degree. I don't

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care. When it comes to entertainment, that's

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great and all, but that can fall. My family has

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always told me, they always told me this, you're

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never going to make it. You're never going to

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make it when you're a kid. They think that, you

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know, music is hit or miss. This is back in the

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day, of course. Music is hit or miss. You got

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to be good. Not anybody can do it. And same for

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modeling and acting. But they would say that.

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And it wasn't all a lie. But now it's like. It's

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a hit or miss, because if it was easy, everyone

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would be doing it. But also, if it's not easy,

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it just depends on the person, I guess. But then

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also, another thing is I don't even know how

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to even say it because it's like, you just got

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to know how to invest your funds because, like

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I said, outside of this, I do have a degree.

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So if everything else fails, I use my degree.

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I go back to square one, but I still save that

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money and invest. I still have that fund to depend

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on. And that doesn't mean go blow it because

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I have it. I don't, I don't use my money like

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that. I don't, I don't do that as a, as a personal

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preference. So people do, but if you're going

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to do that, you better know that you get another

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500 ,000 or something somewhere. If you're going

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to do that. but I do feel like people should

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invest more and you don't and honestly you don't

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even have to be in the industry to do that you

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just you have to think logical out here now but

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investing is definitely big at what point did

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you uh like what was that that was your mindset

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because 10 years in the business first of all

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most people don't even make it 10 years in the

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industry right uh second of all you know you

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hit these um points of success where like you

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start to get paid for what you're doing some

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people you know spend it because it's a new found

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success right so they have to get through that

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emotional state of it and then they turn the

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corner when did you like you know i'm going to

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really turn that corner uh i need a plan for

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the future i need to invest and to save you know

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the industry At best, it's fickle. So I need

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to make sure I safeguard myself. Yes. I did that

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turning point in 2020. Why? Because I had a job.

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That's one thing. I had my daughter and I did

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not want her. Because before that, the first

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three years, oh yeah, I was definitely, I was

00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:56.720
in college. I was modeling. I was clubbing, spending

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money. I mean, it was insane. And y 'all going

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out? I'm going. Like, I didn't even think about

00:17:05.490 --> 00:17:09.609
a car. Like, at the beginning of the 2017 era,

00:17:09.769 --> 00:17:14.650
2018, I was splurging money. Like, and I almost,

00:17:15.069 --> 00:17:17.190
it almost makes me feel bad because now that

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I'm older, I'm 27. I was like, I look at it,

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you know, when you spend your money, you're like,

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dang, why did I do that? Like, I do look at it

00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:30.579
now like that because it was a lot of money.

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I personally didn't have like, I was young. I

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personally didn't have that safeguard for myself.

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I was like, yo, I'm about to go, everybody going,

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I'm going, I'm finna go ball. That's how I thought.

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But 2020 when I had my daughter, I wanted whatever

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was best for her. I invested funds in my daughter.

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I literally put this, like nobody can deny this

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because I put this on every social media how

00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.630
much money I've invested in my daughter. So it's

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like I invest that fun in her so that way when

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when when I'm older she's older You don't have

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to worry about me. You you have your own you

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I'm not you don't have to pay and I hate to say

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this but pay my bills And do that for me. I want

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you to be successful and one thing about me when

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it comes to my daughter I also kept her out of

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the spotlight just like I do my son I never put

00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:25.079
them in the spotlight. I don't take pictures

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of them a lot because I am a model and what I

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do. And not only that, but I just want them to

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have a chance at normality. That's it. I do want

00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.000
them to have a chance at a normal life. They

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go to regular school, they go outside, they play,

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they go to the playground, like they travel.

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But my daughter, it kind of did suck in the beginning

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because she went everywhere with me. like I was

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paying for people to watch her while I was in

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class while I was out of town she was in Cali

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with me like it was it was a lot but I wanted

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her to have a chance at normal so even when she

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.059
gets older if she wants to go to college because

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I would never be like oh yeah you need to be

00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:14.259
a singer or dancer or or something make you rich

00:19:14.259 --> 00:19:18.119
no you go to college you can be a doctor I literally

00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.710
tell her this all the time be a doctor You don't

00:19:20.710 --> 00:19:24.730
have to do anything I've done. I set those standards

00:19:24.730 --> 00:19:27.009
for my kids because I want them to have a regular

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life. And if they go off and they'd be basketball

00:19:29.849 --> 00:19:32.150
players, hey, you better bring me a mill bag.

00:19:32.289 --> 00:19:37.829
I'm just kidding. You better bring me a mill

00:19:37.829 --> 00:19:42.049
bag. But no, absolutely not. No, I like their

00:19:42.049 --> 00:19:45.509
life the way it is. And I do feel like setting

00:19:45.509 --> 00:19:48.309
that standard for myself was 2020 when I had

00:19:48.309 --> 00:19:52.059
my daughter. Yeah, you never believe people when

00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:53.980
they're like when you have a first kid or you

00:19:53.980 --> 00:19:57.240
have a kid It'll change your mindset. Oh boy,

00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:00.220
please I have my first of all people didn't even

00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:02.359
think I was gonna have kids So let's start there.

00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.059
But when I had my daughter my whole life Changed

00:20:07.059 --> 00:20:10.420
it went from me being dressed about me to me

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making sure I'm doing everything for us or her

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And now it's like I have my son It's all about

00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:23.539
my kids. I do not care about me anymore. My kids

00:20:23.539 --> 00:20:28.839
come first. It's God, my kids, then me. And I'm

00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.259
gonna lead me right on back up to God, because

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I'm gonna need him to take care of these kids.

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With my husband, of course. But yes, absolutely.

00:20:38.700 --> 00:20:40.700
So you mentioned earlier about, you know what

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I'm saying, your circle and you pursuing your

00:20:43.180 --> 00:20:46.240
dreams, you know, being a model singer now that

00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:49.289
you've made that headway. you've been doing what

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you've been doing consistently uh 10 years or

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more have they uh their perspective about what

00:20:55.710 --> 00:20:59.029
you do changed do they look at you as success

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sure now or are they out there bragging about

00:21:01.470 --> 00:21:06.410
saying well you know my friend my daughter whomever

00:21:06.410 --> 00:21:12.069
is out here doing their thing um so there are

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a lot of people that stuck with me who were real

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And that's family or friends. I do not care on

00:21:18.170 --> 00:21:21.150
this platform. I am a very genuine person. Pretty

00:21:21.150 --> 00:21:24.329
much I put everything out. So nothing come back.

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And if it did, I wouldn't care because I'm going

00:21:26.650 --> 00:21:30.769
to speak my mind. I have those genuine friends

00:21:30.769 --> 00:21:34.289
that are here. They one were here in college,

00:21:34.750 --> 00:21:37.789
saw me doing what I was doing, making it to class

00:21:37.789 --> 00:21:41.509
at 7, 8 a .m. and doing that. And then I have

00:21:41.509 --> 00:21:44.910
the people that came way before. Anyone ever

00:21:44.910 --> 00:21:47.490
knew because my family didn't know I was modeling

00:21:47.490 --> 00:21:51.009
I didn't tell them that until I believe maybe

00:21:51.009 --> 00:21:55.829
four or five years ago on Facebook I let my first

00:21:55.829 --> 00:21:59.609
picture go out my family on my Facebook They

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didn't even know they had no idea. I was in college.

00:22:02.829 --> 00:22:04.890
I went to Kentucky. I was traveling I didn't

00:22:04.890 --> 00:22:06.470
even tell my family I was going to another state.

00:22:06.549 --> 00:22:10.789
I'm so afraid and People think it's crazy, but

00:22:10.789 --> 00:22:14.680
I went with friends. I was perfectly safe And

00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:16.180
believe it or not, I'm going to go ahead and

00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:18.319
tell this story because my aunt still doesn't

00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.119
know. But I went to Kentucky and I told my aunt

00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.599
it was Thanksgiving or Christmas holiday. And

00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.799
I told her I was going there or going somewhere

00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:32.500
with friends for a holiday. And I went to Kentucky

00:22:32.500 --> 00:22:36.240
instead. And I went out there and I met new people.

00:22:36.740 --> 00:22:40.839
I business ventures. It was amazing. And I had

00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:43.500
the best time of my life, literally, but that

00:22:43.500 --> 00:22:45.880
was just one of the things like that was the

00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:51.140
first time that has ever been told ever. And

00:22:51.140 --> 00:22:54.240
then four or five years ago, I put my first picture

00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:57.339
on Facebook and that's how my family found out

00:22:57.339 --> 00:23:01.660
I was ever a model. And now it's like they know,

00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:05.339
but they're like the family that does not want

00:23:05.339 --> 00:23:10.990
to spotlight. So I tried to I had to do makeup

00:23:10.990 --> 00:23:13.690
and stuff and I was gonna do it at my aunt's

00:23:13.690 --> 00:23:17.849
house so I could travel and my aunt said no no

00:23:17.849 --> 00:23:20.509
no all these cameras cannot come here like that's

00:23:20.509 --> 00:23:25.349
not gonna work like that's no no way absolutely

00:23:25.349 --> 00:23:28.930
my sister was like she said no just that's not

00:23:28.930 --> 00:23:32.700
yeah so I had to make arrangements around it,

00:23:32.900 --> 00:23:34.660
which everything went great. I still got to travel.

00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:37.039
I still did what I need to, but I was so pushed

00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.380
for time. It was crazy, but they're just the

00:23:39.380 --> 00:23:42.579
family that doesn't like the spotlight. They

00:23:42.579 --> 00:23:45.640
like their privacy and I'm okay with that. My

00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.200
brothers, my sister, my older sister, older brothers,

00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:52.200
they all vouch for me as long as I'm doing it

00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.160
the right way. I'm not selling myself. I'm not

00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:58.559
making my kids look bad. I'm not jeopardizing

00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:01.799
my life or can be in a position where something

00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:04.500
harmful happens. I'm okay. My family's great

00:24:04.500 --> 00:24:08.539
with it, actually. Have you ever had a situation

00:24:08.539 --> 00:24:13.579
where you're going up for a gig and somebody

00:24:13.579 --> 00:24:16.700
you've met along in an industry, she went up

00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:21.079
for the gig or eat and due to their ethics, they

00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:23.420
were able to get the gig and you wasn't. Or,

00:24:23.420 --> 00:24:26.240
you know, vice versa. You got to get because

00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.319
you was ethical and they wasn't ethical. Actually,

00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.859
I actually had a recent thing that just happened

00:24:33.859 --> 00:24:40.619
where I traveled myself for a gig. I went across

00:24:40.619 --> 00:24:47.259
state lines and I got to my first. And my model

00:24:47.259 --> 00:24:48.839
manager had everything set up. Everything was

00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:51.849
good. We had everything done. I went to this

00:24:51.849 --> 00:24:57.509
person that traveled here and I, I literally

00:24:57.509 --> 00:25:00.410
got there and he said, you have a cold sore.

00:25:00.569 --> 00:25:05.589
I would not shoot with you. And I was like a

00:25:05.589 --> 00:25:08.130
cold sore. Like, like, I mean, you could not

00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:12.549
see it. I mean, it was insane and it was so much

00:25:12.549 --> 00:25:16.390
money invested in that gig. I was so mad. My

00:25:16.390 --> 00:25:19.069
model manager and my husband made up for that.

00:25:19.650 --> 00:25:21.710
Thank God to have people behind my back that's

00:25:21.710 --> 00:25:24.210
like, no, you're good. We're good. It's all good.

00:25:24.829 --> 00:25:27.369
But one thing I'll say, I would never work with

00:25:27.369 --> 00:25:30.369
that person. I would never, I would never tell

00:25:30.369 --> 00:25:34.309
someone to work with that person. And I would,

00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:38.190
I would never, what do you call it? I would never

00:25:38.190 --> 00:25:41.089
give that person a reference because I feel like

00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.720
I traveled all the way out here, my model manager

00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:49.480
knows this, for work. And before I got here,

00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.920
you could have let me know, hey, these are the

00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.119
requirements. Even sickness, people will write

00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.859
that down. They'll say, if you're sick or, I

00:25:59.859 --> 00:26:01.000
mean, they're probably not gonna say if you have

00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.940
a cold sore, but I wasn't sick. I had no allergy,

00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.500
no cough, no none of that. It was just cold outside.

00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.950
And it was so little, it could... have been done

00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:12.910
over. I literally took a picture of it. I was

00:26:12.910 --> 00:26:14.289
like, it could have been done over with because

00:26:14.289 --> 00:26:16.670
I had a gig before that. And it was literally

00:26:16.670 --> 00:26:21.289
done while makeup was on it. And you couldn't

00:26:21.289 --> 00:26:23.609
even tell. You would never be able to tell. Yeah.

00:26:24.349 --> 00:26:28.329
And my model manager was so shocked. He was like,

00:26:28.750 --> 00:26:34.309
what? Like, are you insane? She she's here. Like,

00:26:34.730 --> 00:26:37.730
it was just it was a wild thing. That was actually

00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:41.559
recent. Maybe like a month. A month or two ago.

00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.759
Yeah, it was crazy. It was insane. I got everything

00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.079
else done, but that was just one of those things

00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.940
where that was like The only that's probably

00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:59.299
the only time where I Didn't get what was told

00:26:59.299 --> 00:27:02.750
to me. Yeah in that sense. But of course, when

00:27:02.750 --> 00:27:04.789
you have a model manager, they will make up for

00:27:04.789 --> 00:27:08.309
those funds. So whatever I was owed, it got paid.

00:27:08.349 --> 00:27:10.569
But it's just like that person can never work

00:27:10.569 --> 00:27:12.829
with me again. Like I won't I won't do it. And

00:27:12.829 --> 00:27:16.910
that was set up for my like my my model manager

00:27:16.910 --> 00:27:20.089
allowed that person to be able to work with me

00:27:20.089 --> 00:27:23.690
because at first I said no. Yeah. But I wanted

00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:25.710
to give them a chance at their work because it

00:27:25.710 --> 00:27:28.950
was still nice. And I don't want to be like,

00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:31.839
standoffish. because some people I am standoffish

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.279
too but that's because like you said ethical

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:39.660
or non -ethical some people are very unethical

00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:43.940
where they want you to do stuff you're not I

00:27:43.940 --> 00:27:46.339
mean there's maybe there are some people that

00:27:46.339 --> 00:27:49.660
will but no there's some things I just won't

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:56.289
do like I have morals so it's like How long how

00:27:56.289 --> 00:27:59.750
have you how have you been able to navigate the

00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:04.210
business? aspect of modeling and I think because

00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:07.390
The industry doesn't have a blueprint of how

00:28:07.390 --> 00:28:10.829
to do this Like you said some people require

00:28:10.829 --> 00:28:15.269
deposits some people don't Some people will communicate

00:28:15.269 --> 00:28:18.990
others won't like you said, you know what their

00:28:18.990 --> 00:28:22.940
requirements are? Like you said is also There's

00:28:22.940 --> 00:28:24.759
travel involved, there's making involved, there's

00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.779
time, there's turning down other gigs. How have

00:28:27.779 --> 00:28:30.059
you been able to navigate all those complexities?

00:28:30.259 --> 00:28:32.420
Because like I said, there is no blueprint on

00:28:32.420 --> 00:28:34.539
how to do business within the creative industry.

00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:42.839
Well, we have it to where mine is on a paper.

00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.900
I signed a paper to work with anyone. Anything

00:28:46.900 --> 00:28:51.119
I do is on paper. I've signed my signature releasing

00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:55.210
this. I run those copyrights with my model. There

00:28:55.210 --> 00:28:58.869
is no, you take my stuff and do what it, no,

00:28:58.869 --> 00:29:02.269
no, no. If it's out there, believe you me, I

00:29:02.269 --> 00:29:06.269
and my model manager put this on here or out

00:29:06.269 --> 00:29:11.549
there. But if it comes down to a photographer

00:29:11.549 --> 00:29:13.410
coming and they want to shoot with me, they go

00:29:13.410 --> 00:29:19.730
through him always. We talk it over and see how

00:29:19.730 --> 00:29:23.670
we want to do stuff. And then from there, we

00:29:23.670 --> 00:29:27.910
come up with a amount for everyone. It's for

00:29:27.910 --> 00:29:31.349
everybody. Everyone's on the same page. And then

00:29:31.349 --> 00:29:34.789
we work from there. However, with this particular

00:29:34.789 --> 00:29:37.769
person, I was willing to give them a chance at

00:29:37.769 --> 00:29:41.549
releasing their own thing because they're building.

00:29:42.089 --> 00:29:44.430
Why not help the next person? That's how I look

00:29:44.430 --> 00:29:50.950
at stuff. But also, can you still hear me? Yeah.

00:29:52.750 --> 00:29:59.970
Also, it's just now we've moved to you have to

00:29:59.970 --> 00:30:03.890
pay a deposit with me now. Now you have to pay

00:30:03.890 --> 00:30:07.450
a deposit because of that. That's never happened

00:30:07.450 --> 00:30:10.390
since I've been a model. But because that happened

00:30:10.390 --> 00:30:14.410
at first, it was a certain amount per hour. So

00:30:14.410 --> 00:30:15.970
as long as you're hitting those amounts, we're

00:30:15.970 --> 00:30:18.789
OK. You got the paper. We'll sign it. We'll do

00:30:18.789 --> 00:30:22.319
that. But now because that happened now it's

00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.500
you're required to pay X amount before I show

00:30:25.500 --> 00:30:29.079
up Before I put anything on before we do this

00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.039
shoot everything before I sing Go to a studio

00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.940
with someone help someone on a song all of them.

00:30:36.059 --> 00:30:39.180
It's changed the whole thing and it's not bad

00:30:39.180 --> 00:30:43.160
because It's a lot of changes going on in life

00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:46.599
now and you kind of have to be that way. Yeah

00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.500
So how is the singing been working out for you?

00:30:50.579 --> 00:30:53.039
Are you hitting the goals that you want to do

00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.900
on there or you're just using it as Leverage

00:30:56.900 --> 00:30:59.900
for you know other opportunities. I'm using that

00:30:59.900 --> 00:31:02.839
as leverage for other opportunities because that

00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.440
one can be sticky I only say that because people

00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.980
would tell you one thing and it'll be something

00:31:07.980 --> 00:31:11.519
else Whereas in modeling right now for me, I

00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:16.019
run my own My copyrights when I release how I

00:31:16.019 --> 00:31:19.940
release it. I'm my own brand, but then I also

00:31:19.940 --> 00:31:24.519
am so good with that particular Section and modeling

00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:28.859
where I can be branded So that's the difference

00:31:28.859 --> 00:31:33.079
with singing. It's a lot of stuff because Nowadays

00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.640
people want your sound and and they want you

00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.220
to do it this way and you get this little piece

00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:40.660
And you don't really have an agreement anymore

00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.859
And people can sue you. They can be like this.

00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:47.940
But if it's mine and I produce this, you can't

00:31:47.940 --> 00:31:52.880
sue nothing. This is mine. So if it's mine and

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.099
my model manager and you use it or do something

00:31:55.099 --> 00:31:59.240
with it, I can sue you. That's the difference.

00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:04.980
So I kind of like took it as. Why sign myself

00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:08.559
over to someone when I can build myself? Yeah.

00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.759
And that's what I've done for 10 years. I've

00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.519
built myself to where it pays me, it makes me,

00:32:14.779 --> 00:32:17.759
it brands me, I'm eating, my kids are good. That's

00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.660
how I've done it. Yeah. I'm not necessarily with

00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:25.380
someone. Now, am I in a contract with John Casablanca's?

00:32:25.380 --> 00:32:28.119
Yes, I am. I have a three year contract with

00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.400
them. Now that's where acting comes involved,

00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.880
where they're like, act this way, read this script,

00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:36.509
do this. That's where that comes at. That's why

00:32:36.509 --> 00:32:39.630
they're tagged on my Instagram, because they're

00:32:39.630 --> 00:32:42.230
teaching me that the stuff I did not really know

00:32:42.230 --> 00:32:45.890
about actors. I'm not perfect trust. They're

00:32:45.890 --> 00:32:50.329
teaching definitely. But with that, yes, absolutely.

00:32:52.529 --> 00:32:55.410
What would you say has worked or been your formula

00:32:55.410 --> 00:32:58.490
of success to get into where you are now? What

00:32:58.490 --> 00:33:00.369
key things have you done that worked for you?

00:33:01.710 --> 00:33:06.069
I would say my key things that have gotten me

00:33:06.069 --> 00:33:13.730
to where I am is one, how I talk to people, two,

00:33:14.329 --> 00:33:18.450
how I present myself. First impression is always

00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:20.849
important. I don't care what nobody tell you.

00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:26.670
And then also people don't just look at me as

00:33:26.670 --> 00:33:30.250
a model because outside of modeling, I help my

00:33:30.250 --> 00:33:33.980
community. I help women and children. I'm not

00:33:33.980 --> 00:33:38.259
just a model. I'm a motivational speaker. I'm

00:33:38.259 --> 00:33:41.539
a person that will help give my last. I'm not

00:33:41.539 --> 00:33:45.180
stuck up. Oh, I have this and they're homeless

00:33:45.180 --> 00:33:49.440
and I don't care. No, never. That'll never be

00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.140
something where you'll read the blogs and be

00:33:51.140 --> 00:33:54.700
like, yeah, she's mean. It'll never be that because

00:33:54.700 --> 00:33:56.400
I'm always going to give back. I'm always going

00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.220
to give back to my community. They could be starving.

00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.859
I'm going to feed them. If I see it, it's happening.

00:34:02.299 --> 00:34:04.980
Like there's none of that. There's I feel like

00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:08.199
I'm a community leader, not just a model to some

00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.440
people. So some people, they look at me and they're

00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.460
like, oh, yes, she's a model, but they can be

00:34:12.460 --> 00:34:15.119
themselves around me. Also, they don't have to

00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.099
be like, like when I get in the room, they don't

00:34:17.099 --> 00:34:20.239
have to treat me like official. Like, no, they

00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.559
don't know what's up. Like that's how they are.

00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:25.420
We can chill. We can we can watch movies. We

00:34:25.420 --> 00:34:27.619
can play the game. We can party. We can do this.

00:34:27.659 --> 00:34:30.260
We can do that. That's how I am. In real life.

00:34:30.260 --> 00:34:32.219
So people would never be able to do it. Oh, yeah,

00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:37.320
she's that's her and blah blah blah So then I've

00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.880
said that question What are some things that

00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.000
have been like clean points throughout your career

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.119
or you know things that didn't work out as well

00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:49.360
that you try it? Um, I Want to say things that

00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:58.659
didn't work out as well is Me I am a I'm a leader

00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:06.320
And I try to help people in their own type of

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.400
Group or environment. I had a group of girls

00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.179
and I still have those girls and There was I

00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:18.619
was the CEO of it and I tried to venture out

00:35:18.619 --> 00:35:21.579
and be like this girl group host for the club

00:35:21.579 --> 00:35:29.750
Well the owner of it She it was monetary I don't

00:35:29.750 --> 00:35:33.150
I don't do well with that because when I pull

00:35:33.150 --> 00:35:36.510
up I Don't know how you how she pulls up. I pull

00:35:36.510 --> 00:35:39.530
up in black trucks SUVs. I got security guards

00:35:39.530 --> 00:35:43.789
I that's what it is But when it comes to monetary,

00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:46.010
I don't want to have to deal with that when it

00:35:46.010 --> 00:35:48.650
comes to an actual venue Like I don't that's

00:35:48.650 --> 00:35:53.250
not my I don't know So I tried to be that older

00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:57.469
person for that group wrong wrong And it just

00:35:57.469 --> 00:36:00.309
didn't venture well for me within and it might

00:36:00.309 --> 00:36:02.449
just have been that particular thing because

00:36:02.449 --> 00:36:05.849
I host in the club So it's like if you're a hose

00:36:05.849 --> 00:36:10.010
maybe Having a group is just too much. You don't

00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:13.309
want to do that that much So I did back off of

00:36:13.309 --> 00:36:15.769
that, but the girls that were in the group, they

00:36:15.769 --> 00:36:19.550
do follow me They love me to death. We talk every

00:36:19.550 --> 00:36:23.530
other week There's no animosity at all. And of

00:36:23.530 --> 00:36:27.360
course, I got what I was owed but It just wasn't

00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.579
for me. They're still a group. I would never

00:36:30.579 --> 00:36:33.420
tell them to not chase themselves in their dreams

00:36:33.420 --> 00:36:36.400
and their goals. Don't you ever give up. But

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:42.119
it wasn't for me because I have a different audience.

00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:45.599
I have a different support group. So it wouldn't

00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.380
work for me. What's something in industry that

00:36:50.380 --> 00:36:52.559
you would change if you had the power to change

00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:54.300
it if you didn't like, you know Take your magic

00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:57.559
wand, but I'm changing this and then tomorrow

00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.900
it goes into effect. What would that be? Honestly

00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:07.780
because I Get on these platforms and I I hear

00:37:07.780 --> 00:37:12.579
these these teenagers or these grown -ups They

00:37:12.579 --> 00:37:16.639
they do music they do poetic speeches they do

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.980
they have different talent honestly in the industry

00:37:19.980 --> 00:37:25.039
it would be how they choose people because I

00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.880
see so much talent out here I see so many I have

00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.400
seen it across all platforms and it would be

00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.280
how they choose because when you look at it and

00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.019
they choose one person I'm the type of person

00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:42.210
to be like that's not it I'm sorry But then there's

00:37:42.210 --> 00:37:44.510
another person and I'm like, wow, they just they

00:37:44.510 --> 00:37:48.030
don't understand that person is just that person

00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:52.369
I got on tick -tock the other day and there was

00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:57.610
a guy just met him and He got in my life and

00:37:57.610 --> 00:37:59.750
it was funny because I didn't realize that when

00:37:59.750 --> 00:38:02.869
you go live I just made a tick -tock seven days

00:38:02.869 --> 00:38:05.869
ago. Like it's been ten years out and I just

00:38:05.869 --> 00:38:10.639
made one. Yeah, and I He came in and he was really

00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.480
cool and he said hey can you play this for me

00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:18.019
and it was his music and I actually liked his

00:38:18.019 --> 00:38:21.340
music whereas another person would be like no

00:38:21.340 --> 00:38:26.440
this person because of honestly morals they want

00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.900
you to do this that this that but I honestly

00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:34.559
look at it again for authenticity like I feel

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.980
like that can be changed because I feel like

00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:40.539
they pick and choose There is no pick and choose

00:38:40.539 --> 00:38:43.480
there's there's non -talent and then there's

00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:46.860
talent. Yeah, but basically wipe away our politics

00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:50.940
of stuff. Yeah, wipe that politics right away

00:38:50.940 --> 00:38:55.039
because they have so many like Little things

00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:58.300
like no like that's that's not because but that's

00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:01.719
another reason why I'm the way I am I wasn't

00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.360
good because at first there were a lot of people

00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:08.920
that oh I want to brand you and oh sign this

00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:12.300
I did not I have not signed anything until last

00:39:12.300 --> 00:39:15.880
year. Yeah when I saw John Casablanca's nine

00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:22.760
years or Eight years later I before that I was

00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.019
strictly on my own making my own money doing

00:39:25.019 --> 00:39:27.400
my own thing I'm not sharing nothing and I still

00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.079
don't have to share That is the contract that

00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.179
I'm in I still don't have to share but it's mine

00:39:33.179 --> 00:39:36.400
and I'm just the creator That's it. I love it.

00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:39.599
I absolutely love it. And one thing I can say

00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.300
is the people that I met in the beginning, they're

00:39:43.300 --> 00:39:45.739
not all here, but they let me know in the beginning.

00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.519
You will not be with these same people your whole

00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.920
time. You are going to go through changes. They're

00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.619
going to be new makeup artists. They're going

00:39:53.619 --> 00:39:55.639
to be new model managers. They're going to be

00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.179
new things until you settle. And I'm settled

00:39:58.179 --> 00:40:03.119
now, but I've had my mix. Good, bad, all of it.

00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:07.869
And Literally, over time, I've met so many people,

00:40:07.909 --> 00:40:09.989
good and bad, whether it's good, whether it's

00:40:09.989 --> 00:40:12.909
bad, whether it's yes, whether it's no, but I've

00:40:12.909 --> 00:40:16.809
met so many people. And the people I've met have

00:40:16.809 --> 00:40:19.789
been, besides the ones I've told you about, have

00:40:19.789 --> 00:40:22.690
been nothing but pushing me. It's like every

00:40:22.690 --> 00:40:25.409
little inch, it's like, you got this, you got

00:40:25.409 --> 00:40:27.369
this. And there will be times where I was in

00:40:27.369 --> 00:40:30.469
the studio, I would literally cry my eyes out.

00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.019
Like it would be like because I was such a stickler

00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:36.139
and I'm still like this But I don't have to be

00:40:36.139 --> 00:40:37.739
like this because I'm kind of used to it now

00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:40.780
and how I want it But I would want it to be so

00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:43.360
perfect I'm like a perfect person like this is

00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.840
not the picture and I would just give up I'll

00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.699
walk out You know break down or whatever and

00:40:48.699 --> 00:40:50.800
they will let me they will let me I mean literally

00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.400
That's what people don't understand it when we're

00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:55.360
not in front of a camera and y 'all don't see

00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:58.960
what y 'all see Some of us are a little different.

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.920
I'm not going to lie. I yell and I get upset.

00:41:03.420 --> 00:41:06.920
Who doesn't? I have my moments, but that's just

00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.840
what it is. But the people that are behind me

00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.840
are behind me. They'll sit there. They'll let

00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.199
me do that. They'll come back and they'll be

00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.239
like, let's do it again. Let's do it again. Let's

00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.219
do it again. And that is how I've made it this

00:41:20.219 --> 00:41:23.280
far. I've had so many good people that didn't

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.219
want me to fail because there are some people

00:41:25.219 --> 00:41:27.460
that are put in there that They don't care if

00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:29.360
you fail or not, as long as you're making them

00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:33.260
some money. Yeah. But I've had so many good people

00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:36.400
that are literally behind me and have been the

00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.960
whole step of the way. There are people that

00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.260
still check on me to today that I don't necessarily

00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:43.039
work with anymore, but could we could collab

00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.719
and they'll check on me. How are you doing? How's

00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.099
modeling? They'll bring it up. Are you doing

00:41:48.099 --> 00:41:50.440
good? I see your new stuff. That's how it is.

00:41:50.860 --> 00:41:54.920
We're so proud of you. Like. Yeah, it's it's

00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:59.690
nice. You mentioned the word collab and I forgot

00:41:59.690 --> 00:42:01.610
to let the audience know, we actually talked

00:42:01.610 --> 00:42:06.750
on threads. But I've been looking at threads

00:42:06.750 --> 00:42:08.829
here lately within the last couple of weeks and

00:42:08.829 --> 00:42:11.530
I've been seeing that people are starting to

00:42:11.530 --> 00:42:13.750
get a negative connotation with the word collab

00:42:13.750 --> 00:42:17.750
and that they're saying that the new collab is

00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:20.329
nothing but people are trying to get access to

00:42:20.329 --> 00:42:23.449
others to get things for free or something like

00:42:23.449 --> 00:42:26.159
that. How do you feel about the word collab?

00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:28.500
And did you actually, what does collaboration

00:42:28.500 --> 00:42:32.639
look like to you? Me? No, that's not what collab

00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.400
mean. That's their internet form of whatever

00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:39.599
they're trying to personify. But me for collaboration,

00:42:39.940 --> 00:42:43.780
I'm just as a person though, like me for collaboration,

00:42:44.260 --> 00:42:48.260
it's two people that have talent, that come together,

00:42:48.619 --> 00:42:54.699
that make something great. That's it. You are

00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:57.800
a podcast interviewer. I am a model. We are coming

00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.780
together Building something and we're gonna put

00:43:00.780 --> 00:43:03.380
it on platforms and y 'all gonna come watch it

00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:07.179
cuz y 'all gonna come watch it But that is what

00:43:07.179 --> 00:43:10.199
collaboration is it's not supposed to be getting

00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.840
something for free. That's not No, there are

00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.760
people out here that probably do that But if

00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:20.119
you both come in a grants that this is what you're

00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.059
getting technically. It's not free You get to

00:43:23.059 --> 00:43:25.420
be on someone else's platform while they get

00:43:25.420 --> 00:43:28.880
to be on yours. That is not free. I don't know

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:33.179
who said that, but no, that's not free. Some

00:43:33.179 --> 00:43:37.139
of them may not get financial benefits behind

00:43:37.139 --> 00:43:39.139
it. So maybe that's why they're saying it's free.

00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.579
But honestly, if the littlest bit that you get

00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:46.599
out of it, honestly, that is what collaboration

00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.420
is. There's not always going to be financial

00:43:50.570 --> 00:43:54.269
behind it and it does not have to be yeah if

00:43:54.269 --> 00:43:57.329
you're on someone's platform honey that is money

00:43:57.329 --> 00:43:59.650
right there you don't know honey you don't know

00:43:59.650 --> 00:44:03.570
if you release a video a music video and it goes

00:44:03.570 --> 00:44:06.150
viral you just got your money what are you talking

00:44:06.150 --> 00:44:10.250
about so that's how i look at it and i honestly

00:44:10.250 --> 00:44:13.929
think collaboration is a good thing i think it's

00:44:13.929 --> 00:44:17.530
great actually because it's giving people platforms

00:44:17.530 --> 00:44:21.579
to speak to show to view and honestly like this

00:44:21.579 --> 00:44:25.900
platform I like I told you I never I never speak

00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:27.739
to people but I'm just a private person like

00:44:27.739 --> 00:44:30.800
my family besides what I post on my social medias

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.840
of course everyone knows I'm on there I watch

00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:36.639
and look and I'm here and they know I'm watching

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:45.380
but it's just the behind it that I'm here but

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:53.059
I'm also How you say it I'm also I'm also doing

00:44:53.059 --> 00:44:56.320
my own thing and working with my own people and

00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:59.980
building my own stuff behind the scenes. Yeah

00:44:59.980 --> 00:45:02.840
Definitely like I love that you have that type

00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:07.400
of mentality and that's how you view that word

00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.900
in Like you said you inch every day will get

00:45:12.900 --> 00:45:15.360
you somewhere. You know, some people look at

00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.150
stuff like What do they get out of it and I'm

00:45:18.150 --> 00:45:19.789
like that it's a selfish way to look at it and

00:45:19.789 --> 00:45:22.769
I tell people all the time even if one person

00:45:22.769 --> 00:45:25.210
Knows about you that didn't know about you. There

00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:27.730
was a success because you don't know where that

00:45:27.730 --> 00:45:31.889
will lead exactly Exactly about building relationships

00:45:31.889 --> 00:45:35.769
and like networking for yes You have to network

00:45:35.769 --> 00:45:38.630
in the industry you have and I tell people that

00:45:38.630 --> 00:45:41.329
and they don't have the patience for it They

00:45:41.329 --> 00:45:43.429
do not have the patience for it and I'm like,

00:45:43.449 --> 00:45:48.349
okay just because In the beginning someone else

00:45:48.349 --> 00:45:51.349
I may have had a friend they got five inches

00:45:51.349 --> 00:45:56.250
Further than I did in modeling for a month. I

00:45:56.250 --> 00:45:58.130
Don't care that I'm five inches behind you because

00:45:58.130 --> 00:46:01.650
when I get there, it's gonna be great It's gonna

00:46:01.650 --> 00:46:05.949
be for me. Yeah, and honestly Working I'm telling

00:46:05.949 --> 00:46:09.449
you working up to these podcasts in these interviews.

00:46:09.469 --> 00:46:11.489
I've never done an interview I've never done

00:46:11.489 --> 00:46:15.329
a podcast. This is all new this is and I be telling

00:46:15.329 --> 00:46:21.289
people It took me a while it's I'm it's next

00:46:21.289 --> 00:46:24.969
year's ten years I'm doing an interview. Mm -hmm.

00:46:24.989 --> 00:46:27.650
Y 'all have got have y 'all like it does not

00:46:27.650 --> 00:46:31.630
happen overnight. It doesn't It never will happen

00:46:31.630 --> 00:46:34.510
over and I'm sorry that if that happens is one

00:46:34.510 --> 00:46:36.429
-hit wonder and they will never be heard from

00:46:36.429 --> 00:46:41.550
again You want longevity in this industry. You

00:46:41.550 --> 00:46:44.530
want longevity in this industry. And that's not

00:46:44.530 --> 00:46:46.489
just modeling. That's modeling. That's music.

00:46:46.630 --> 00:46:50.030
That's entertainment. That's comedy. That's film.

00:46:50.349 --> 00:46:54.429
That's any industry. And you want to inch. You

00:46:54.429 --> 00:46:56.469
want to inch because you want to learn. You want

00:46:56.469 --> 00:46:58.409
to learn. You want to make sure that when you're

00:46:58.409 --> 00:47:01.230
doing it, it's your own way of doing it. Because

00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:03.210
if you do it like everybody else, that's everybody

00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:05.789
else's way. You're just copying. And most of

00:47:05.789 --> 00:47:09.199
it is copying. but I decide to not do that. I'm

00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:14.440
official, baby. I do it my way, okay? I have

00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.920
my own way. And it's different for me because

00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.539
I can be many things, but I've trained myself

00:47:21.539 --> 00:47:24.119
to be that. Like they can put a wig on me and

00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.179
make me look like Marilyn Monroe because it's

00:47:26.179 --> 00:47:28.960
cute or because it matched me. They can put a

00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.460
mole on me and boop bop boop. I can do that,

00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.760
but I've branded myself that way. I've done it.

00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.329
They've I'm okay with them changing me. It doesn't

00:47:38.329 --> 00:47:40.670
change my inner person. I've never changed. I'm

00:47:40.670 --> 00:47:46.849
still Daytona from the block, but I'm official.

00:47:47.090 --> 00:47:49.469
I'm a different version of myself than I was

00:47:49.469 --> 00:47:53.170
almost 10 years ago, but I'm better. I'm better.

00:47:53.969 --> 00:47:59.670
As you should be. So going forward, what do you

00:47:59.670 --> 00:48:03.210
want to achieve within the next year, the next

00:48:03.210 --> 00:48:08.380
five years? Okay, so the next year or the next

00:48:08.380 --> 00:48:14.920
five years One I am moving so much toward now

00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.900
that I have a tick -tock I'll not use it, but

00:48:17.900 --> 00:48:21.860
I'm using it I've been posting a little step

00:48:21.860 --> 00:48:26.380
little five videos what I want to get more into

00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:29.679
Motivational speaking why because that has always

00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.119
been a goal for me. I don't know. I don't know

00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.519
why but I want to speak to the youth I want to

00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.099
speak to these kids. I want to speak to these

00:48:37.099 --> 00:48:39.360
teens. That is on my degree. I have that in my

00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.079
bag. So I'm going to use it that way. I didn't,

00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.860
I didn't listen. I ain't taking no masters and

00:48:45.860 --> 00:48:48.519
bachelors and all that and go be some high maintenance.

00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:53.940
You can, but that ain't for me. So for me, it's

00:48:53.940 --> 00:48:58.599
more so using that platform and that degree to

00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.489
build my own platform. of my own making. I want

00:49:02.489 --> 00:49:05.110
to speak to people on these platforms. It could

00:49:05.110 --> 00:49:08.809
be grandma. I want to speak to grandma. You just

00:49:08.809 --> 00:49:12.309
never know. You're speaking on these platforms.

00:49:12.510 --> 00:49:14.409
You don't know who it will reach. You don't know

00:49:14.409 --> 00:49:16.829
who it will touch. You have no idea whose ears

00:49:16.829 --> 00:49:20.489
are open to listen to you. So I've been, I want

00:49:20.489 --> 00:49:24.429
to get more into motivational speaking to women.

00:49:25.110 --> 00:49:28.070
These women, y 'all need it, right? I understand.

00:49:28.510 --> 00:49:31.260
You go through stuff every day. go through stuff

00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:35.659
every day, I can relate to it. I'm a mom. I've

00:49:35.659 --> 00:49:38.000
had nothing before. And that's what people don't

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.440
realize. They feel like some people feel like

00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:47.000
I boast, I don't boast. I've came from nothing

00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:52.000
and losing parents to being that generational

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.039
curse in my family, to making it in the industry

00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:02.260
where you cannot. It is impossible, almost impossible

00:50:02.260 --> 00:50:06.900
without some billionaire behind you. I didn't

00:50:06.900 --> 00:50:09.579
have a billionaire behind me. I had me. I was

00:50:09.579 --> 00:50:11.880
not a billionaire. Millionaire gets billionaire

00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:15.940
behind me. I was just me. And I told myself,

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.539
I'm gonna post a picture. I'm gonna post three

00:50:20.539 --> 00:50:23.559
pictures. I'm gonna post five pictures. I'm gonna

00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.539
build a portfolio. And I built that portfolio

00:50:26.539 --> 00:50:28.940
until I had people traveling to come shoot me.

00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.559
And I kept building that portfolio. And then,

00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.139
you want to know what? In the beginning, it was

00:50:35.139 --> 00:50:40.960
$50. It was $100. It was $20. It was $30. But

00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.280
you add that money up. And then you get a little

00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.559
bit bigger. And then you're like, OK, I can do

00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.380
$200. I can do $250 for this amount. I can build

00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:54.380
that up. And then it's worth $500, $1 ,000, blah,

00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.920
blah, blah, blah, blah. You keep growing. it

00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.019
but it didn't happen in true day it did not it

00:51:00.019 --> 00:51:05.079
it would never but i'm i'm i'm telling you it

00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.860
takes time to get to where it is because i've

00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:11.539
literally started from having nothing which is

00:51:11.539 --> 00:51:15.679
what people look and they're like the people

00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.579
that know me think they know me they haven't

00:51:19.579 --> 00:51:23.539
seen me in 12 years 13 15 years and they're like

00:51:23.539 --> 00:51:26.869
oh well She don't have it or this and that no,

00:51:26.869 --> 00:51:30.170
I'm not the type of person that comes around

00:51:30.170 --> 00:51:33.809
and Because I have it I'm going to fund your

00:51:33.809 --> 00:51:37.489
life Yeah, that that's not that's not gonna happen.

00:51:37.489 --> 00:51:43.829
Like I earned it So this is where I am. Yeah,

00:51:43.829 --> 00:51:48.369
I built myself up today But will I help people

00:51:48.369 --> 00:51:51.260
and want to be? a motivational speaker for someone

00:51:51.260 --> 00:51:55.320
else. And do I invest in these donation charities

00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.019
for children around the world? Yes, I have. Do

00:51:59.019 --> 00:52:03.119
I help these other cities with kids and homeless

00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:07.780
shelters and foster children? Yes, I have. And

00:52:07.780 --> 00:52:12.389
have I went around the city? And I've been, I've

00:52:12.389 --> 00:52:14.630
seen it. I've seen mothers that their child is

00:52:14.630 --> 00:52:16.210
in NICU. They don't know if that baby is going

00:52:16.210 --> 00:52:18.989
to live or not. And I've helped those parents,

00:52:19.030 --> 00:52:21.389
that husband and wife, that mom and daughter,

00:52:21.469 --> 00:52:24.349
that mom and son, that single parent. Yes, I

00:52:24.349 --> 00:52:26.449
have. And I'll do it again and I'll keep doing

00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:29.090
it because that's what I want to be. I want to

00:52:29.090 --> 00:52:32.230
be a leader. I want to be a teacher. I want to

00:52:32.230 --> 00:52:37.389
talk to people. I've done it. Last year, before

00:52:37.389 --> 00:52:41.739
graduating, I got on a stand. I graduated from

00:52:41.739 --> 00:52:43.280
Georgia when at college. I don't mind telling

00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.800
you that because I ain't there right now. So

00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:47.719
I can't nobody go up there and be like, I'm coming

00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:52.539
for her. But I stood in front of over it was

00:52:52.539 --> 00:52:57.619
over 500, 500 dollars, 500 people in a room in

00:52:57.619 --> 00:53:02.340
a building. I stood up there and it was for scholarships

00:53:02.340 --> 00:53:07.780
from my school. They I got scholarships and my

00:53:07.780 --> 00:53:11.199
stuff was paid. thank God, I had a good mom who

00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.199
passed on but left me with the goodies. So I'm

00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.940
blessed. But I also had my school. They helped

00:53:17.940 --> 00:53:23.460
me. They I was in the system. So they assisted

00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:26.619
where it was failure or where there was strain.

00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:33.380
And I went in there and there were leader officials

00:53:33.380 --> 00:53:37.429
there were Celebrities there were my husband

00:53:37.429 --> 00:53:40.110
was with me. There were cameras. There was everything

00:53:40.110 --> 00:53:42.769
I was dressed to the tee. It was insane. I was

00:53:42.769 --> 00:53:46.190
pregnant with my son I got on a stand and I told

00:53:46.190 --> 00:53:50.989
people about my life. I told them how I Did not

00:53:50.989 --> 00:53:55.150
have parents and I made a way out of no way so

00:53:55.150 --> 00:53:58.250
I could be at this school because I wasn't gonna

00:53:58.250 --> 00:54:03.389
let a simple failure tell me and I got up there

00:54:03.389 --> 00:54:07.239
and I told a whole room full of people that night.

00:54:08.739 --> 00:54:12.519
The five of us that came and said our testimony.

00:54:13.699 --> 00:54:17.119
I met the school president. I spoke in front

00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:21.860
of her. It broke hearts in that room. I alone

00:54:21.860 --> 00:54:24.099
out of everyone that came with me raised over

00:54:24.099 --> 00:54:28.300
$12 ,500 toward a scholarship fund for my school.

00:54:28.489 --> 00:54:34.650
In all, we raised over $250 ,000 towards my school.

00:54:35.409 --> 00:54:38.329
That was last February. It is on my Instagram.

00:54:38.469 --> 00:54:42.150
You can view it. I spoke. It was so many people.

00:54:42.230 --> 00:54:45.409
I was so nervous. But I had so many people backing

00:54:45.409 --> 00:54:48.289
me. It was insane. Everybody was recording. It

00:54:48.289 --> 00:54:52.389
was beautiful. And I'm proud. Because now that

00:54:52.389 --> 00:54:54.789
I'm not there and I'm graduated, somebody else

00:54:54.789 --> 00:54:57.130
probably gets a scholarship this year. And I'm

00:54:57.130 --> 00:54:59.130
proud, because I had something to do with that.

00:54:59.610 --> 00:55:01.849
I have something to do with a senior that gets

00:55:01.849 --> 00:55:05.610
to graduate in May. I'm proud of myself. That's

00:55:05.610 --> 00:55:07.550
what's up. That's an accomplishment in itself.

00:55:07.989 --> 00:55:10.929
So things like that should be highlighted. Yes.

00:55:12.369 --> 00:55:14.570
So for everybody out there that's going to be

00:55:14.570 --> 00:55:17.309
watching this and listening, if they want to

00:55:17.309 --> 00:55:20.409
go and look them up, check out your work, things

00:55:20.409 --> 00:55:23.429
you've done, follow your path, whatever you need

00:55:23.429 --> 00:55:28.670
to go. So. All my names are the same. It is O

00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:35.309
-F -F -I -C -X -I -A -L underscore 500. You can

00:55:35.309 --> 00:55:38.409
find me on TikTok now because I'm new. You can

00:55:38.409 --> 00:55:40.389
definitely find me on Instagram. You can find

00:55:40.389 --> 00:55:44.469
me on threads. You can find me on Facebook, but

00:55:44.469 --> 00:55:47.949
I am under my maiden name. So you would have

00:55:47.949 --> 00:55:50.150
to go from threads to Facebook. So I don't get

00:55:50.150 --> 00:55:52.750
that out. But if you hit me up on Instagram,

00:55:52.869 --> 00:55:56.940
I'm always there. Always on Instagram and I am

00:55:56.940 --> 00:56:00.639
now live on tik -tok as well So if you can't

00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:02.539
catch me anywhere, you'll catch me live on tik

00:56:02.539 --> 00:56:05.860
-tok at some point this this week today tomorrow.

00:56:05.860 --> 00:56:09.699
You'll catch me Well, that's great. Have you

00:56:09.699 --> 00:56:11.699
ever thought about like putting together your

00:56:11.699 --> 00:56:15.679
story by getting? not community type style into

00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.800
that capacity I Have I actually have the only

00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:23.670
thing about that is you've got to find? the right

00:56:23.670 --> 00:56:26.170
people that are willing to record it. So it's

00:56:26.170 --> 00:56:29.909
like, you want to find the right people and the

00:56:29.909 --> 00:56:33.329
people that are willing to listen. And I have

00:56:33.329 --> 00:56:37.750
a lot more that can come to this table or come

00:56:37.750 --> 00:56:42.409
to any table about my life and a documentary

00:56:42.409 --> 00:56:45.710
series. And that would be one of the things that

00:56:45.710 --> 00:56:47.969
within one to five years, maybe that can happen.

00:56:48.369 --> 00:56:51.519
Yeah, I think that would be dope. So everybody

00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.059
out there y 'all make sure y 'all go follow official

00:56:54.059 --> 00:56:56.420
and you know what she says she's on instagram

00:56:56.420 --> 00:56:59.139
and you know take out that tiktok live definitely

00:56:59.139 --> 00:57:01.900
a lot of good content on there inspirational

00:57:01.900 --> 00:57:05.119
story y 'all keep following the platform banked

00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.219
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00:57:07.219 --> 00:57:11.500
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